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    "Woke" is now an official religion it seems.

    ‘What must true theologians think’: ‘Pagan’ Greta Thunberg receives theology doctorate | Watch (msn.com)
    1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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    Scripture before Tradition:
    but that won't prevent others from
    taking it upon themselves to deprive you
    of the right to call yourself Christian.

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  • #2
    Theology? She should get an honorary degree for Annoying Puppet Kid Who Thinks She Knows Science. Is that a subject?

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    • #3
      It's a strange choice, but I guess some people thinks she's doing God's work.

      I see she was given an honorary doctorate in Law a couple of years ago. That seems an equally difficult field to justify to me.

      If she's a climate change activist, and you're giving her an honorary doctorate, then either Politics or Science would seem the obvious choices to me.

      That said, honorary doctorates are totally meaningless nothings, so it's a bit like asking what color should a participation certificate be.
      Last edited by Starlight; 03-23-2023, 08:08 PM.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
        Theology? She should get an honorary degree for Annoying Puppet Kid Who Thinks She Knows Science. Is that a subject?
        Maybe it's a comment by Helsinki U on their opinion of theology?
        1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
        .
        ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
        Scripture before Tradition:
        but that won't prevent others from
        taking it upon themselves to deprive you
        of the right to call yourself Christian.

        ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post

          That said, honorary doctorates are totally meaningless nothings, so it's a bit like asking what color should a participation certificate be.
          Agreed.
          P1) If , then I win.

          P2)

          C) I win.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            It's a strange choice, but I guess some people thinks she's doing God's work.

            I see she was given an honorary doctorate in Law a couple of years ago. That seems an equally difficult field to justify to me.

            If she's a climate change activist, and you're giving her an honorary doctorate, then either Politics or Science would seem the obvious choices to me.

            That said, honorary doctorates are totally meaningless nothings, so it's a bit like asking what color should a participation certificate be.
            Celebrities often are granted honorary doctorates for all sorts of reasons. Does anyone take those sort of pseudo-degrees seriously?

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #7
              I find this more interesting...



              A tweet she deleted when it went into the historical dustbin as yet another false climate prediction that didn't come true. Just so anyone is not aware, she's also a WEF minion "agenda contributor."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                Theology? She should get an honorary degree for Annoying Puppet Kid Who Thinks She Knows Science. Is that a subject?
                It's actually quite fitting given that climate change alarmism is currently a religion worshiping scientism

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                  Maybe it's a comment by Helsinki U on their opinion of theology?
                  And the state of theology at Helsinki U

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by seanD View Post
                    Mispredicting the End-Times is classic religious behavior. Mossrose was doing it this week over in the Canada thread. Maybe Greta does deserve the honorary PhD to be in Theology for that reason?
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Mispredicting the End-Times is classic religious behavior. Mossrose was doing it this week over in the Canada thread. Maybe Greta does deserve the honorary PhD to be in Theology for that reason?
                      As does the climate scientist/priest she was referring to!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        Mispredicting the End-Times is classic religious behavior. Mossrose was doing it this week over in the Canada thread. Maybe Greta does deserve the honorary PhD to be in Theology for that reason?
                        I would say it's about dead even when it comes to Christian "end time" failed predictions vs. climate change alarmism failed predictions, that is, if you compare climate change failed predictions in the last several decades vs. church predictions over several centuries. But climate change alarmism is far worse because it actually influences modern politics and legislation.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                          As does the climate scientist/priest she was referring to!
                          Possibly worth pedantically noting that we can't be absolutely sure his prediction was wrong, the way we can with rapture predictions that don't happen. These climate predictions about the timeframes we have to act, are suggesting that if action isn't taken that some critical threshold will be reached that will knock some major climate / ocean / Antarctic ice etc processes permanently out of their current equilibria which will over many decades cause increasingly bad effects. They are not suggesting that the bad effects will have fully occurred within the timeframe they give. So humanity still being here 5 years later, doesn't prove he was wrong in his claim that lack of human action in those five years has doomed humanity sometime ~50-200 years in the future. (I've seen no evidence to suggest his claim is correct, and don't believe it is. But I'm saying that the existence of humanity 5 years on doesn't prove his claim wrong. The existence of humanity ~200 years in the future would prove his claim wrong.) His claim being right would be equally embarrassing to climate-activist Greta who wants to convince people to take climate action, and if it's too late to do so as his claim says, then Greta's activism is a waste of time because humanity's already failed on the issue.
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by seanD View Post
                            I would say it's about dead even when it comes to Christian "end time" failed predictions vs. climate change alarmism failed predictions
                            I would tend to think that the number of climate change failed predictions is about two orders of magnitude less than failed Christian end times predictions over the last 50 years or so. I guess a lot would come down to, who do we 'count' as having made predictions, what were their predictions, and how sure are we that they 'failed'. As I note to Gond above, a failed rapture prediction is fairly clear, but a failed climate prediction is often hard to quantify.

                            Let's say a science team develops a climate model that they can run on a supercomputer and that will calculate 30 years into the future. They then publish a paper saying "look, we developed this model, it's kind of interesting. It has some limitations which we'll explain here. We ran it 1000 times with slightly different inputs and assumptions, and so each run gave slightly different outcomes, and we'll report the average of results here, the standard deviation of results, and what the extreme runs said. Obviously we can't include everything in a simplified model, and we're currently working to add more information into the model to make the calculations better". Is that one climate prediction? Is it 1000 predictions (i.e. each time they run the program on the supercomputer with different input it gives a different result)? Is it zero climate predictions, since they are not saying "We formally predict X" they just say "Our model gave X results" (which is a true statement about their model's behavior)? If a 100 such groups of scientists go to a conference on the subject and chat about all their different models and look at the similarities and differences between the results their calculations give, and realize certain outcomes are common in the results of all their models, is that then a single joint prediction? If a random journalist from a magazine hears about the conference and writes a piece saying "a lot of scientists seems to think X", is that a prediction? Or does it only become an official prediction if the scientists go to the media and say "We have an Official Climate PredictionTM to make?"

                            I say this as someone who's a scientist who runs a lot of models in a different field: I do not generally feel that if some of my models predict something then that it is necessarily my prediction or the result. Feeling I have the confidence to go on record personally making a prediction, is something that comes from looking at a lot of different models and different types of evidence and assessing what I think of each of them. And then at that point, me personally making a prediction is one thing, convincing other scientists on my team is another thing, and the entire team publicly making the claim is then yet another thing.
                            Last edited by Starlight; 03-24-2023, 12:06 AM.
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              I would tend to think that the number of climate change failed predictions is about two orders of magnitude less than failed Christian end times predictions over the last 50 years or so. I guess a lot would come down to, who do we 'count' as having made predictions, what were their predictions, and how sure are we that they 'failed'. As I note to Gond above, a failed rapture prediction is fairly clear, but a failed climate prediction is often hard to quantify.

                              Let's say a science team develops a climate model that they can run on a supercomputer and that will calculate 30 years into the future. They then publish a paper saying "look, we developed this model, it's kind of interesting. It has some limitations which we'll explain here. We ran it 1000 times with slightly different inputs and assumptions, and so each run gave slightly different outcomes, and we'll report the average of results here, the standard deviation of results, and what the extreme runs said. Obviously we can't include everything in a simplified model, and we're currently working to add more information into the model to make the calculations better". Is that one climate prediction? Is it 1000 predictions (i.e. each time they run the program on the supercomputer with different input it gives a different result)? Is it zero climate predictions, since they are not saying "We formally predict X" they just say "Our model gave X results" (which is a true statement about their model's behavior)? If a 100 such groups of scientists go to a conference on the subject and chat about all their different models and look at the similarities and differences between the results their calculations give, and realize certain outcomes are common in the results of all their models, is that then a single joint prediction? If a random journalist from a magazine hears about the conference and writes a piece saying "a lot of scientists seems to think X", is that a prediction? Or does it only become an official prediction if the scientists go to the media and say "We have an Official Climate PredictionTM to make?"

                              I say this as someone who's a scientist who runs a lot of models in a different field: I do not generally feel that if some of my models predict something then that it is necessarily my prediction or the result. Feeling I have the confidence to go on record personally making a prediction, is something that comes from looking at a lot of different models and different types of evidence and assessing what I think of each of them. And then at that point, me personally making a prediction is one thing, convincing other scientists on my team is another thing, and the entire team publicly making the claim is then yet another thing.
                              Bro, give it up. There are quite a few folks that have documented all the failed doomsday predictions in science and news articles since the beginning of the 20th century. What's interesting is that they all used different forms of doomsday predictions from ice ages, peak oil, global famines and mass starvation, ozone depletion, to global warming, yet they all used the same exact reason each time -- overpopulation. That's never ever changed from their doomsday mantra.

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