Biden claims 2021/2022 deficit reduced by taxes that didn't take effect until 2023

[Sparko]

Yup. You got me.

I'm a fictitious character in a comic strip.

I knew it!

[rogue06]

You are just upset I figured out your true identity, Wally.

Yup. You got me.

I'm a fictitious character in a comic strip.

[Sparko]

As I said... a wannabe rogue.

He now needs to learn how to straight out steal appropriate things -- for the common good naturally.

You are just upset I figured out your true identity, Wally.

[rogue06]

He knows how to take credit for other people's work while not actually doing anything himself. Just like you Wally

As I said... a wannabe rogue.

He now needs to learn how to straight out steal appropriate things -- for the common good naturally.

[Sparko]

Wally is a wannabe rogue

He knows how to take credit for other people's work while not actually doing anything himself. Just like you Wally

[rogue06]

That's what I said, Wally.

Wally is a wannabe rogue

[Sparko]

No, he was a crazy old company man who truly believed that the company could do no wrong.

That's what I said, Wally.

[seanD]

What I've found, more often is the two parties deal with blatant lies differently.

Democrats pretty much ignore their own lies. Their candidate will lie 10 ways from Sunday, and they'll simply not acknowledge it, change the subject, or laugh it off as inconsequential (see @starlight's defense of the Inflation Reduction Act).

Republicans, on the other hand, seem to lean in, as if a lie isn't a lie if they can repeat it enough, or if they can find a conspiracy. It doesn't even matter if the lie is actually all that important. One example is the numbers at Trump's inauguration. The weather wasn't great, trump was polarizing, and more people supported "republican" more than the supported "Donald Trump". It's not surprising that all of that together put out a less than stellar crowd size. However, Trump's ego wouldn't let that happen, so he declared the numbers were bigger, and that lead to many debates to this day, including conspiracy theories, and wild theories all about how trump was right, and the official counts were just wrong.

Like rogue said, when the MSM has such a track record of flat out lying about almost everything concerning Trump, even negative reports about him that might be true they're going to question. It's like a man married to woman with a history of being unfaithful and lying about it, naturally the man is going to become paranoid and suspicious whenever it looks like the woman might be cheating.

As far as assuming everything is a conspiracy, with everything we witnessed while Trump was in office, why wouldn't they assume that? Take the laptop cover-up as just one example where you had clear collusion of multiple parties and institutions (both government and private) engaged in suppressing the story just for partisan reasons.

[rogue06]

Did your boss have pointy hair and is your name Wally?

No, he was a crazy old company man who truly believed that the company could do no wrong.

[Sparko]

Had a boss like that. He literally spent the morning during a meeting playing cheerleader for a new policy that the company was implementing, trying to convince us that it was the best thing since sliced bread. Ten minutes later he returned to inform us the policy was scrapped and we were to continue with the old one -- which he now told us was much better than the one they were wanting to implement.

Did your boss have pointy hair and is your name Wally?

[tabibito]

I have seen a concerning number of liberals uncritically regurgitate the latest Democrat talking point even when it flatly contradicts the previous talking point. They are either unaware of or entirely untroubled by the cognitive dissonance required to behave in this manner.

Sitting behind the side lines, it is apparent that neither team has a comfortable lead in that game.

[Mountain Man]

What I've found, more often is the two parties deal with blatant lies differently.

Democrats pretty much ignore their own lies. Their candidate will lie 10 ways from Sunday, and they'll simply not acknowledge it, change the subject, or laugh it off as inconsequential (see @starlight's defense of the Inflation Reduction Act).

Republicans, on the other hand, seem to lean in, as if a lie isn't a lie if they can repeat it enough, or if they can find a conspiracy. It doesn't even matter if the lie is actually all that important. One example is the numbers at Trump's inauguration. The weather wasn't great, trump was polarizing, and more people supported "republican" more than the supported "Donald Trump". It's not surprising that all of that together put out a less than stellar crowd size. However, Trump's ego wouldn't let that happen, so he declared the numbers were bigger, and that lead to many debates to this day, including conspiracy theories, and wild theories all about how trump was right, and the official counts were just wrong.

The inauguration numbers are a bad example. The most common pictures making the round compared a photo of the Mall an hour or more before Trump's inaugural ceremony with a picture of Obama's inauguration when it was in full swing and tried to use the deceptively framed contrast to humiliate Trump, so naturally he fought back. Pictures taken during Trump's actual inauguration showed a much more sizeable crowd. While not as big as Obama's, it was still far larger than the media gleefully reported it.

Here's an ancient thread I started about it:

https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...size#post13810

[rogue06]

I have seen a concerning number of liberals uncritically regurgitate the latest Democrat talking point even when it flatly contradicts the previous talking point. They are either unaware of or entirely untroubled by the cognitive dissonance required to behave in this manner.

Had a boss like that. He literally spent the morning during a meeting playing cheerleader for a new policy that the company was implementing, trying to convince us that it was the best thing since sliced bread. Ten minutes later he returned to inform us the policy was scrapped and we were to continue with the old one -- which he now told us was much better than the one they were wanting to implement.

[Mountain Man]

Like I said in the other thread, democrats (and Biden) have no problem with telling outright and obvious lies. I guess they think their base is so gullible they can gaslight them by saying anything and they will believe it. It obviously works on Starlight and he isn't even American.

I have seen a concerning number of liberals uncritically regurgitate the latest Democrat talking point even when it flatly contradicts the previous talking point. They are either unaware of or entirely untroubled by the cognitive dissonance required to behave in this manner.

[rogue06]

What I've found, more often is the two parties deal with blatant lies differently.

Democrats pretty much ignore their own lies. Their candidate will lie 10 ways from Sunday, and they'll simply not acknowledge it, change the subject, or laugh it off as inconsequential (see @starlight's defense of the Inflation Reduction Act).

Republicans, on the other hand, seem to lean in, as if a lie isn't a lie if they can repeat it enough, or if they can find a conspiracy. It doesn't even matter if the lie is actually all that important. One example is the numbers at Trump's inauguration. The weather wasn't great, trump was polarizing, and more people supported "republican" more than the supported "Donald Trump". It's not surprising that all of that together put out a less than stellar crowd size. However, Trump's ego wouldn't let that happen, so he declared the numbers were bigger, and that lead to many debates to this day, including conspiracy theories, and wild theories all about how trump was right, and the official counts were just wrong.

I think part of the latter is the result of the sheer number of bald-faced lies that the left kept telling about Trump (you can even ignore the campaign and start with his first day in office and the story of his removing MLK Jr.'s bust from the oval office), that after awhile some start to assume that even true stories are yet more fake news.