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  • #91
    2018 letter from Michael Cohen's lawyer to the Federal Elections Commission sinks the entire case against President Trump, says that Cohen made the payment to Stormy Daniels out of his own personal funds without consulting Trump, and that he was never reimbursed for it.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Saw this one yesterday, and was amused...

      DarkBrandon.jpg
      Likely from the White House flunky who still keeps pushing the Dark Brandon meme.

      This is a man who can't even bring a bicycle to a stop without faceplanting. The only question is which of his fingers will old Joe get caught in the ejection port.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        2018 letter from Michael Cohen's lawyer to the Federal Elections Commission sinks the entire case against President Trump, says that Cohen made the payment to Stormy Daniels out of his own personal funds without consulting Trump, and that he was never reimbursed for it.

        https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
        It's basically thought that he was lying then

        Source: 2018 letter shows Michael Cohen lying to feds about Stormy Daniels payment


        A newly surfaced letter from 2018 shows Michael Cohen lying to federal election officials about his infamous, $130,000 payment to porn star Stormy Daniels — which later helped send him to prison.

        The letter, obtained by The Post on Wednesday, emerged as the disbarred lawyer appeared poised to become the star witness in an unprecedented criminal case against his ex-boss, former President Donald Trump.

        In it, Cohen told the Federal Election Commission that he “used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford,” aka Daniels, in 2016.

        “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed Mr. Cohen for the payment directly or indirectly,” Cohen lawyer Stephen Ryan wrote on Feb. 8, 2018.

        But a little more than six months later, Cohen changed his tune and copped a plea to a laundry list of federal crimes that included making an excessive campaign contribution to Trump, now 76, by paying Daniels to keep quiet about her alleged 2006 affair with him.

        As part of his guilty plea, Cohen admitted that he used a newly incorporated shell company to pay Daniels, then sought reimbursement from the Trump Organization for the full amount, plus a $35 wire fee and another $50,000 for tech work related to Trump’s campaign.

        The total was doubled for tax purposes, and Cohen also received a $60,000 bonus, with the full amount of $420,000 paid to him in monthly installments for which he submitted invoices.

        Cohen also later pleaded guilty to an unrelated charge of lying to Congress when he denied trying to broker a deal for a Trump Tower development in Moscow during the 2016 presidential campaign

        [...]


        source

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        Still, the lawyers will eat him up over that if he ever takes the stand.



        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          2018 letter from Michael Cohen's lawyer to the Federal Elections Commission sinks the entire case against President Trump, says that Cohen made the payment to Stormy Daniels out of his own personal funds without consulting Trump, and that he was never reimbursed for it.

          https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
          IIRC There are literal checks from the company reimbursing him, including at least one directly signed by Trump. So that letter sounds quite dubious

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

            IIRC There are literal checks from the company reimbursing him, including at least one directly signed by Trump. So that letter sounds quite dubious
            If I remember correctly, those payments were general retainer fees and were not earmarked specifically as repayments for the money Cohen gave to Daniels. This whole thing was such a nothing burger from the start that I don't recall the Trump campaign even being fined for it.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

              If I remember correctly, those payments were general retainer fees and were not earmarked specifically as repayments for the money Cohen gave to Daniels. This whole thing was such a nothing burger from the start that I don't recall the Trump campaign even being fined for it.
              I mean of course they didn't write "hey this is reimbursements for paying of that sleazy hooker that our boss slept with" in the memo portion of the check, so thats not a coherent argument. Most people doing illegal things dont earmark those things with notes about the illegal activities being performed, you dolt.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                I mean of course they didn't write "hey this is reimbursements for paying of that sleazy hooker that our boss slept with" in the memo portion of the check, so thats not a coherent argument. Most people doing illegal things dont earmark those things with notes about the illegal activities being performed, you dolt.
                In other words, you concede that there is no record of Cohen being reimbursed for the money he paid to Daniels out of his own personal funds.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                  Lots of problems with those AI photos. Mainly, the cops chasing him appear to be looking or chasing someone else off camera. The one above, the cop on the right almost appears to be running with Trump, not after him.
                  Apparently some were taken in. The shrews on the View were upset with Whoopsie Goldberg moaning "You-know-who is still at large" and Sunny Hostin whining that "So many people were excited."

                  They also blamed OMB for it because he predicted he would be arrested Tuesday with Goldberg angrily stating "You said they are going to arrest you. They didn’t arrest you."

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #99
                    I think the DA has painted himself into a corner. If he doesn't bring felony charges against Trump, this will explode as yet another nothingburger and his influence in Democratic politics is over.
                    "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                    "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                      In other words, you concede that there is no record of Cohen being reimbursed for the money he paid to Daniels out of his own personal funds.
                      The checks are the record you braindead twit. Just because they didn't write the incriminating words you demand means freaking nothing. But then nothing unexpected coming from a Trump Kultist.

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                      • So now it looks like they may be calling this whole charade off, and on top of that, it actually helped Trump raise millions more in campaign funds. It really is strange how the TDS attacks just seem to always work in Trump's favor (other than the 2020 rigged election, that is).

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                        • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                          The checks are the record you braindead twit. Just because they didn't write the incriminating words you demand means freaking nothing. But then nothing unexpected coming from a Trump Kultist.
                          But you already conceded that the checks did not specify that they were reimbursements, and as I recall from previous testimony, they were general retainer fees as opposed to repayment for any specific action taken by Cohen.

                          My understanding is that Cohen was a "fixer" who was kept on retainer, and his clients would tell him, "Make this go problem go away. I don't care how you do it, and I don't want to know," which is how the Stormy Daniels affair was handled and why the 2018 letter from Cohen's lawyer affirmed that President Trump had no direct involvement, and that Cohen was never directly reimbursed.

                          Again, the FEC never found cause to even fine the Trump campaign, and by all accounts, Bragg is serving up another big fat nothing burger.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • Originally posted by seanD View Post
                            So now it looks like they may be calling this whole charade off, and on top of that, it actually helped Trump raise millions more in campaign funds. It really is strange how the TDS attacks just seem to always work in Trump's favor (other than the 2020 rigged election, that is).
                            Source: https://babylonbee.com/news/manhattan-da-announces-plan-to-get-trump-elected-in-2024

                            Manhattan DA Announces Plan To Get Trump Elected In 2024

                            MANHATTAN, NY — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has announced a brilliant new plan to get Trump elected President in 2024.

                            "I will stop at absolutely nothing to put Trump back in the White House where he belongs," said Mr. Bragg. "I'm about to charge up his base like you've never seen!"

                            Mr. Bragg had carefully waited until the moment he could give Trump the biggest political boost to push forward with an indictment. "Check and mate, libs," laughed Mr. Bragg as he pulled on a MAGA hat. "I've already put in my request to be Trump's Transportation Secretary, I hear it's super easy. 2024, here we come!"

                            After lawyers of every political allegiance agreed there was no criminal case against Trump over hush money paid during his 2016 campaign, Mr. Bragg knew taking the hopeless case was his big chance. "The optics of Democrats indicting, even handcuffing Trump on charges that have no chance of sticking - what more could the Trump campaign ask for?" said MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "Mr. Bragg might be the most brilliant Republican strategist this century. He's playing chess while the rest of us are out here playing checkers."

                            At publishing time, Governor Ron DeSantis was wondering what sort of crime he needed to be indicted for to keep pace with Trump.

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                            • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                              The checks are the record you braindead twit. Just because they didn't write the incriminating words you demand means freaking nothing. But then nothing unexpected coming from a Trump Kultist.
                              All I see here is a TDS sufferer grasping at non existent straws. I am under no obligation to believe that it was not the retainer fees as mentioned and that the absence of contrary evidence is proof that it wasn't; since as you have been told before in another thread we are under American law not British law you are not guilty till you prove you are innocent you are innocent till proven guilty and so far everything I am seeing show there is no there there.

                              And for those of you that wish to believe Trump is guilty until he proves himself innocent, Cohen is a convicted perjurer why should I believe he is telling the truth about anything. The case against Trump is looking more and more like the DA is trying to bail out a boat with a pasta strainer with all the holes built into it.
                              Last edited by RumTumTugger; 03-23-2023, 02:35 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                                I think the DA has painted himself into a corner. If he doesn't bring felony charges against Trump, this will explode as yet another nothingburger and his influence in Democratic politics is over.
                                I figure if he is going to do it he'll do it tomorrow so that it goes through the weekend as the Big Story.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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