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  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    ,
    Michael Cohen did prison time for [being Bad Orange Man's attorney]

    Fixed it.

    Edit: The idea any of this is motivated by "justice" is laughable.
    Last edited by Diogenes; 03-31-2023, 05:41 AM.
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    • Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
      The idea any of this is motivated by "justice" is laughable.
      Well I guess you can laugh at reality if you want.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Well I guess you can laugh at reality if you want.
        I presume the "reality" of which you speak is presumed by [modal] realism where some possible world where this is actually motivated by justice is equally as real as this world.
        Last edited by Diogenes; 03-31-2023, 06:25 AM.
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        • Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
          Fixed it.

          Edit: The idea any of this is motivated by "justice" is laughable.
          Bingo. By all accounts, whatever charges Bragg could have possibly filed against the President rise to the level of misdemeanors at worse, and it remains to be seen what legal trickery Bragg used to get around the statute of limitations.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            Yes, as I said, what my brother fails to realize is that US evangelicals don't give a fig about morality so voted for him in 2016 despite knowing his deep immorality and would vote for him again now with the same knowledge. That's inherently different to New Zealand where religious people would definitely shy away from voting for publicly deeply immoral people.
            You are an idiot, US evangelicals have been trying to overturn Roe for 50+ years, every other Republican president (including Reagan) has let them down. It was Trump who got it done. He listed the type of judges he would appoint before he was elected, and followed through. And abortion was probably the single most important issue for evangelicals. So yes, personally he is an immoral man (aren't we all) but he reversed a great evil...
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • Originally posted by seer View Post

              You are an idiot, US evangelicals have been trying to overturn Roe for 50+ years, every other Republican president (including Reagan) has let them down. It was Trump who got it done. He listed the type of judges he would appoint before he was elected, and followed through. And abortion was probably the single most important issue for evangelicals. So yes, personally he is an immoral man (aren't we all) but he reversed a great evil...
              I wonder if Star isn't aware that Ray Comfort is a Kiwi and that Ken Ham is from just across the Tasman Sea.
              Last edited by Diogenes; 03-31-2023, 06:43 AM.
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              • Originally posted by seer View Post

                It is not about Trump per se, it further divides the country. The trans thing, the possible gun grab, are all tied up in this. I support Desantis, but the left is using questionable charges to try and remove the front runner of the opposing party, and a former president. It is unprecedented in US history. It will not go over well. I was a Democrat most of my adult life (no longer) and what has been happening to Trump from day one really is a witch hunt - and I think you know that Gond...
                Democrats have been digging and digging and digging literally for years to find something, anything to charge President Trump with, and it remains to be seen if the charges filed by Bragg are even valid or substantial enough to survive the first legal challenge.

                The take away for me, however, is that if they can do it to a President of the United States, then there's nothing stopping them from doing it to you and me.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by seer View Post

                  You are an idiot, US evangelicals have been trying to overturn Roe for 50+ years, every other Republican president (including Reagan) has let them down. It was Trump who got it done. He listed the type of judges he would appoint before he was elected, and followed through. And abortion was probably the single most important issue for evangelicals. So yes, personally he is an immoral man (aren't we all) but he reversed a great evil...
                  The great evil was to reverse Roe. Evangelicals will soon become a small and irrelevant minority, and abortion rights will be restored. Soon being a decade or so.
                  “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                  “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                    The take away for me, however, is that if they can do it to a President of the United States, then there's nothing stopping them from doing it to you and me.
                    Exactly!
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                      The great evil was to reverse Roe. Evangelicals will soon become a small and irrelevant minority, and abortion rights will be restored. Soon being a decade or so.
                      I wouldn't expect any less from a blood thirsty fiend...
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • Everything is sealed, but apparently, there are 30 + charges.

                        30 of them. I'm sure it will be maybe one or two, and the rest of them are implications of the one or two. Prosecutors like that little trick. Take any charge and then take the implications of it and make an additional charge out of it.

                        If I were Trump, i'd take a couple weeks vacation in Florida before I turned myself in . Maybe in the Keys...and maybe I wouldn't turn myself in at all.

                        Maybe offer to have someone from NYC to come down to do the booking, photos, fingerprints, etc. You don't have to be in NYC to get all that info. Desantis said he won't participate in any extradition. I'd make reps from NYC come down to the beach in the Florida Keys to get my fingerprints while I sip on something refreshing. Is there some law that says you have to be at the police station to get photos and fingerprints? Use the photos of Trump that already out there. Or if they want new ones, then Trump welcomes them to come to the Keys to get a few shots. He'll even arrange a nice hotel stay for them. I would bet it's really infuriating to many that he's just taking a little weekend and will come do their silly booking at his leisure. He's under arrest basically, but he's in FLA all like while libs be like .

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                        • I think Trump provoked some of this. He just got through congratulating the Grand Jury for not jumping through Bragg's hoops and indicting him before leaving for a month vacation. And then this. A sort of slap in the face, showing Trump wasn't going to manipulate them.

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                          • Originally posted by Machinist View Post
                            Everything is sealed, but apparently, there are 30 + charges.

                            30 of them. I'm sure it will be maybe one or two, and the rest of them are implications of the one or two. Prosecutors like that little trick. Take any charge and then take the implications of it and make an additional charge out of it.

                            If I were Trump, i'd take a couple weeks vacation in Florida before I turned myself in . Maybe in the Keys...and maybe I wouldn't turn myself in at all.

                            Maybe offer to have someone from NYC to come down to do the booking, photos, fingerprints, etc. You don't have to be in NYC to get all that info. Desantis said he won't participate in any extradition. I'd make reps from NYC come down to the beach in the Florida Keys to get my fingerprints while I sip on something refreshing. Is there some law that says you have to be at the police station to get photos and fingerprints? Use the photos of Trump that already out there. Or if they want new ones, then Trump welcomes them to come to the Keys to get a few shots. He'll even arrange a nice hotel stay for them. I would bet it's really infuriating to many that he's just taking a little weekend and will come do their silly booking at his leisure. He's under arrest basically, but he's in FLA all like while libs be like .
                            Trump initially said he would turn himself in. It will be interesting to see if he follows through.

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                            • Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
                              I wonder is Star isn't aware that Ray Comfort is a Kiwi
                              I am, and I listened to him in person once 20 years ago when I was a Christian. My friends and I were a bit unconvinced at the time that his argument that bananas are evidence for creation, which featured prominently in his talk, was a good argument though. I since learned that actually bananas as we know them today are the result of intensive human breeding and intervention and date from 1836, and that wilder bananas tend to be much less pleasant to eat. So maybe Ray Comfort's God did his act of creation in 1836?

                              Given Ray Comfort has spent much of his life in the US, I don't think he can be described as any way typical of a NZ evangelical.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                                Trump initially said he would turn himself in. It will be interesting to see if he follows through.
                                He's like we'll see ya'll Tuesday. Maybe.

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