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Pro-Ukraine group may be responsible for the Pipeline espionage.
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Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
I'm more inclined to trust someone like Hersh than our own intelligence agencies who spent at least three years blatantly lying to the US public about President Trump and the Russian Collusion Delusion.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
I'm more inclined to trust someone like Hersh than our own intelligence agencies who spent at least three years blatantly lying to the US public about President Trump and the Russian Collusion Delusion.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWait, I thought the leading conspiracy theory was that Russia blew up their own pipeline?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
That was before Sy Hersh's report. Apparently the guy has so much clout, narratives were forced to change.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
The current narrative based on the evidence has not changed. You keep pushing the Mersh report when the only evidence he has is an anonymous source and no evidence.
Though I did say that if there's evidence that it was done internally, then that would seem to be definitive proof that Russia did it, so I don't understand why US changed the narrative if that's true.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
I believe it remains the most likely possibility is pro-Ukraine and/or anti-Putin rebels and not the governments themselves committed the sabotage not the governments themselves.We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.
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Originally posted by alaskazimm View Post
Aren't you pro-Ukraine and anti-Putin? Where were you on the night in question?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
I'm "pushing" the "Mersh" report here because his report seems to be the report that changed the US narrative from "Russia did it" to a "pro-Ukraine group" did it. I don't see any other reason for that rather drastic change of view otherwise, especially considering it indicts Ukrainians who are supposed to be the good guys in all this.
Though I did say that if there's evidence that it was done internally, then that would seem to be definitive proof that Russia did it, so I don't understand why US changed the narrative if that's true.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Seems to be? The Mersh report changed nothing and is not reliable only citing an anonymous source. Yes, there is evidence that the source was from within Russia, but anti-Putin and Pro-Ukraine rebels are operating and committing sabotage in Russia.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
I honestly can't tell if you're misspelling Hersh's name intentionally or not. If you are, I guess it's pretty funny (though I don't know what the joke is). If you aren't, then that's kind of scary.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
I honestly can't tell if you're misspelling Hersh's name intentionally or not. If you are, I guess it's pretty funny (though I don't know what the joke is). If you aren't, then that's kind of scary.
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