The scandal of pretending to be another race

[One Bad Pig]

Are you conflating sex and gender?

I read yesterday that 'gender' is a term coined by the psychologist Dr. Money in order to posit a difference between sex and perception.

[Sparko]

I read yesterday that 'gender' is a term coined by the psychologist Dr. Money in order to posit a difference between sex and perception.

Then he should have coined a term that wasn't already a word that was a synonym for sex.

[Bill the Cat]

I read yesterday that 'gender' is a term coined by the psychologist Dr. Money in order to posit a difference between sex and perception.

It still brings me back to the question "How do you even know what the opposite sex feels like (without being the opposite sex) in order to even know how to perceive what the opposite sex perceives?

[rogue06]

Regarding your first question, even if someone thinks they are female trapped in a male body, that doesn't make them female. It just makes them wrong and delusional. And in need of mental therapy. Same as if someone thinks they are a cat, or a chair.

As I posted a few days ago in a different thread:

Could you imagine doctors treating kids with anorexia the same way they treat kids with gender dysphoria?

Here you go Susie. A prescription for diet pills and here's some ipecac to help you "purge" any food you do eat before you digest it.

Maybe schedule stomach stapling surgery for her

[Sparko]

It still brings me back to the question "How do you even know what the opposite sex feels like (without being the opposite sex) in order to even know how to perceive what the opposite sex perceives?

True. What they really mean is that they desire to be the opposite sex and want everyone to treat them as if they really were.

[rogue06]

It still brings me back to the question "How do you even know what the opposite sex feels like (without being the opposite sex) in order to even know how to perceive what the opposite sex perceives?

Looking at cross-dressers it is pretty obvious that what they think constitutes being a woman is really no different that some stereotype that a misogynist would come up with.

[Bill the Cat]

True. What they really mean is that they desire to be the opposite sex and want everyone to treat them as if they really were.

Exactly!

[Bill the Cat]

Looking at cross-dressers it is pretty obvious that what they think constitutes being a woman is really no different that some stereotype that a misogynist would come up with.

I got insulted once by a guy in drag. He called it a "centuries old art form"...

[Sparko]

I got insulted once by a guy in drag. He called it a "centuries old art form"...

So is wearing "black face"

[seer]

So is wearing "black face"

So I guess "woman face" is OK then...

[Sparko]

So I guess "woman face" is OK then...

I just wish they were consistent. If a white person dressing up like a black person is offensive then so should a man dressing up as a woman. Both are "appropriating" something they are not and that is supposed to be bad in Liberalism 101, right?

[mossrose]

It still brings me back to the question "How do you even know what the opposite sex feels like (without being the opposite sex) in order to even know how to perceive what the opposite sex perceives?

I'm convinced that that right there is the reason men who pretend to be women are always some sort of caricature of a woman. They behave and dress so outrageously, in a way that no normal woman would, it's certain that they have not the slightest clue what a real woman is or how one behaves.

Of course, that makes sense, since they can't define "woman".

[seer]

I just wish they were consistent. If a white person dressing up like a black person is offensive then so should a man dressing up as a woman. Both are "appropriating" something they are not and that is supposed to be bad in Liberalism 101, right?

[rogue06]

I just wish they were consistent. If a white person dressing up like a black person is offensive then so should a man dressing up as a woman. Both are "appropriating" something they are not and that is supposed to be bad in Liberalism 101, right?

And while going back looking through old pictures for anyone who ever wore blackface they still run movies like this on TV

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Where it is apparently okay for two black men to "appropriate" both another race and sex.

[seer]

Of course, that makes sense, since they can't define "woman".

So now womanhood includes cultural caricatures of women, and I'm the misogynist.