Honolulu police officers fight for exemption to let them sleep with prostitutes

[KingsGambit]

You know, for "investigation purposes".

Given that the average age for a female to enter prostitution is about 13... I find this unconscionable.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...?csp=fbfanpage

[seasanctuary]

Let's try to criticize things for what they are, not by adding something else then criticizing what's been added.

[KingsGambit]

I find it difficult to see why this particular exemption would be needed given that law enforcement departments successfully conduct prostitution stings all the time without actually going past agreeing to sexual activity.

[seanD]

Honey, it meant nothing to me when I slept with that woman from my sex ed class. I swear, it was for research purposes only. lol

[Manwë Súlimo]

Boom chicka bow-wow

[Epoetker]

Wasn't that a premise of the Eastern Promises movie, that if you refused to sleep with underage prostitutes, they'd know you were an agent? Nevertheless, if you have to do a line of coke, sleep with a prostitute, kill a captured rival gang member, or sign a false document to get in good with the gang, then you're probably operating under the wrong rules of engagement with regard to evil in your society.

In related news under what happens when you let that get-along-to-go-along attitude become commonplace, it is unjust not to allow people to cheat:

As soon as the exams finished, a mob swarmed into the school in protest.

"I picked up my son at midday [from his exam]. He started crying. I asked him what was up and he said a teacher had frisked his body and taken his mobile phone from his underwear. I was furious and I asked him if he could identify the teacher. I said we should go back and find him," one of the protesting fathers, named as Mr Yin, said to the police later.

By late afternoon, the invigilators were trapped in a set of school offices, as groups of students pelted the windows with rocks. Outside, an angry mob of more than 2,000 people had gathered to vent its rage, smashing cars and chanting: "We want fairness. There is no fairness if you do not let us cheat."

According to the protesters, cheating is endemic in China, so being forced to sit the exams without help put their children at a disadvantage.

At this point, nuclear war might not be that bad an idea.

[myth]

I can't see any justification for such an exemption. To be honest, I'm pretty floored that they had the gall to ask lawmakers to keep it. And the fact that lawmakers did...I don't even have words for that.

[KingsGambit]

This thread wouldn't be the same without Manwë.

[Epoetker]

I can't see any justification for such an exemption. To be honest, I'm pretty floored that they had the gall to ask lawmakers to keep it. And the fact that lawmakers did...I don't even have words for that.

I can, I'm not surprised at all, and I do. If a police department has a policy of infiltrating underground prostitution rings, and the criminal gangs know that the informants are people who won't sleep with prostitutes, then part of their criminal leadership meetings are going to involve passing prostitutes around. It's either let the police informers sleep with them or have them depend on bribing their own contacts within the organization, which is the sort of arrangement that can get strung along for a whole lot of time and money, especially if the criminal organization gets wind of it and decides to play along, and even longer if the police in the department find it a good source of hazard pay.

Not that this means I actually advocate the infiltration method. Actually fighting prostitution properly has to be done via the old, boring method of socially isolating and shaming sluts, while at the same time arresting, executing, and deporting those population groups most likely to provide the enterprising pimp class. If you don't have the basic moral resolve necessary to do that, then letting policemen sleep with prostitutes is as natural and necessary as, say...letting kids cheat on placement tests, or letting athletes take steroids, or electing manifestly incompetent black people to office because Diversity.

Without the whole of society enforcing the shared standards and common values, the only way to survive socially is to compromise. This utter lack of imagination on the actual jobs the enforcers have to do, and the actual people they have to deal with, is not advisable.

[Teallaura]

I can't see any justification for such an exemption. To be honest, I'm pretty floored that they had the gall to ask lawmakers to keep it. And the fact that lawmakers did...I don't even have words for that.

The word is 'Hawaii'...