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  • The Durham Investigation failure

    Yet another right-wing conspiracy theory bites the dust...

    Remember back to the Russia Investigation of Trump, and the claims by the right that it was a witch-hunt and the glee with which they had that Barr and Durham were going to 'investigate the investigators' and find all the wrongdoing by the FBI who were doing a political-motivated investigation?

    Years later, that counter-investigation has now ended. It found no political motives in the FBI, no interference by Democrats with FBI investigations, and achieved no successful prosecutions on the subject of the original investigation.

    And when searching the world for evidence to show wrongdoing against Trump, Durham actually came across evidence from Italian officials that Trump was involved in criminal financial activity. So he was forced to expand his investigation that was supposed to be helping Trump, into an investigation of Trump. Whoops.

    Yet another right-wing conspiracy goes down in flames. Not only was the FBI investigating Trump's wrongdoings behaving properly, but the investigation of the investigators actually uncovered further wrongdoing by Trump. Given Trump is currently facing 3-4 simultaneous serious criminal investigations involving well-evidenced wrongdoing, it seems there is no bottom to that well, and that Durham by mistake tripped over even more evidence against Trump, whoops.


    Your regular reminder that the Republicans are the party of criminals, and the Dems the party of law & order... here is the number of indictments against administration officials in each Presidential administration:

    CriminalIndictmentsOfOfficials.jpg
    Some people seem to just like to vote for the crime-party.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Republicans are the party of criminals, and the Dems the party of law & order...
    The former doesn't prove the latter

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    • #3
      Obama killed an American citizen in Yemen (16 year old Abdulrahman al-Awlaki) as Obama was Drone-Sriker in Chief, he should have been in impeached in the least. I'm not aware of anyone else on your listing intentionally ordering extrajudicial killings of American citizens.
      P1) If , then I win.

      P2)

      C) I win.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ronson View Post

        The former doesn't prove the latter
        If anything, Republicans being more indicted could suggests Democrats just get aware with criminal activity.
        P1) If , then I win.

        P2)

        C) I win.

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        • #5

          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          ....the Dems the party of law & order... .


          The DEFUND THE POLICE nutters --- the George Soros puppets --- the "no bail" idiots.... the "wide open border" morons....


          Star, you really should take this show on the road!



          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

            If anything, Republicans being more indicted could suggests Democrats just get aware with criminal activity.
            EGGzackly!!!! Comey spells out an iron-clad case against Hillary, then jumps to "no reasonable prosecutor...."

            The crooked leftist politicians have weaponized the FBI, the DOJ, the Attorney General.... so, yeah, far more Republicans will be indicted than crooks like Hillary.

            And that bit about "far more indictments" ---- as the old saying goes - "you can indict a ham sandwich".
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              That same "law and order" might describe the conditions in Moscow under Stalin. He had everyone arrested for one infraction or another.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
                If anything, Republicans being more indicted could suggests Democrats just get aware with criminal activity.
                Except that even when Republicans are doing an investigation for partisan political ends (e.g the Durham investigation), even they are forced to conclude that Dems did nothing wrong, and they find even more evidence of Republican wrong-doing. There's so much Republican administration criminal activity that even partisan Republicans trip over it when trying to search for the tiniest speck of Democratic wrongdoing.
                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Except that even when Republicans are doing an investigation for partisan political ends (e.g the Durham investigation), even they are forced to conclude that Dems did nothing wrong, and they find even more evidence of Republican wrong-doing. There's so much Republican administration criminal activity that even partisan Republicans trip over it when trying to search for the tiniest speck of Democratic wrongdoing.
                  OK, that made me laugh so hard I scared Jake. Time for bed! Thanks for the laugh.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
                    Obama killed an American citizen in Yemen (16 year old Abdulrahman al-Awlaki) as Obama was Drone-Sriker in Chief, he should have been in impeached in the least. I'm not aware of anyone else on your listing intentionally ordering extrajudicial killings of American citizens.
                    I'd be really careful drawing on cases like that. As commander in chief, all presidents I know of could be accused in that manner. It is very hard to wage any military campaign without some collateral damage.
                    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Yet another right-wing conspiracy theory bites the dust...

                      Remember back to the Russia Investigation of Trump, and the claims by the right that it was a witch-hunt and the glee with which they had that Barr and Durham were going to 'investigate the investigators' and find all the wrongdoing by the FBI who were doing a political-motivated investigation?

                      Years later, that counter-investigation has now ended. It found no political motives in the FBI, no interference by Democrats with FBI investigations, and achieved no successful prosecutions on the subject of the original investigation.

                      And when searching the world for evidence to show wrongdoing against Trump, Durham actually came across evidence from Italian officials that Trump was involved in criminal financial activity. So he was forced to expand his investigation that was supposed to be helping Trump, into an investigation of Trump. Whoops.

                      Yet another right-wing conspiracy goes down in flames. Not only was the FBI investigating Trump's wrongdoings behaving properly, but the investigation of the investigators actually uncovered further wrongdoing by Trump. Given Trump is currently facing 3-4 simultaneous serious criminal investigations involving well-evidenced wrongdoing, it seems there is no bottom to that well, and that Durham by mistake tripped over even more evidence against Trump, whoops.


                      Your regular reminder that the Republicans are the party of criminals, and the Dems the party of law & order... here is the number of indictments against administration officials in each Presidential administration:

                      CriminalIndictmentsOfOfficials.jpg
                      Some people seem to just like to vote for the crime-party.
                      Yep - poor old Barr tried to get dirt on the Russia investigation and had to shut the whole thing down because it was leading him to dirt on Trump
                      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                      • #12
                        I've seen that chart before. It's propaganda that loves to pad it's numbers. It uses charges instead of people indicted because a single person can face multiple indictments for the same issue. It also dishonestly includes the Russian nationals that were indicted that aren't part of the administration, and in fact, no investigation has shown there was actual collaboration, contrary to the conspiracy theories that the left have.


                        Source: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/09/facebook-posts/many-more-criminal-indictments-under-trump-reagan-/

                        Unless an administration official is charged with a crime for acts while in office, it’s not always easy to identify which indictments can be connected to a presidential administration; some administration officials have been indicted for acts in the private sector, some indicted people were involved in presidential campaigns but didn’t work in the administration, etc.

                        This claim exaggerates the number of indictments under Trump, in particular, by counting the number of criminal charges filed, rather than the number of people indicted; and it includes the indictments of people who are not part of his administration, such as 25 Russians.

                        © Copyright Original Source

                        Last edited by CivilDiscourse; 01-29-2023, 08:04 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                          I've seen that chart before. It's propaganda that loves to pad it's numbers. It uses charges instead of people indicted because a single person can face multiple indictments for the same issue. It also dishonestly includes the Russian nationals that were indicted that aren't part of the administration, and in fact, no investigation has shown there was actual collaboration, contrary to the conspiracy theories that the left have.
                          Yep. There are all kinds of misleading charts on the Internet that one can post on a discussion board. My turn!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                            Yep. There are all kinds of misleading charts on the Internet that one can post on a discussion board. My turn!

                            better on issues.jpg

                            infidelity.jpg

                            mayors.jpg
                            I'm glad you at least recognize the charts are misleading ...
                            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                              I'm glad you at least recognize the charts are misleading ...
                              :) You know Ox, when I said charts were misleading, I actually explained why, and provided a link to back it up.

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