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  • #16
    Originally posted by Stoic View Post

    If he stole them, it's entirely different.

    But if he took them accidentally, you can't expect him to return them promptly if he doesn't know he has them.
    Ah yes, he 'accidentally' took multiple classidied documents, stored them in numerous places he frequents (office, garage, library, etc.), and magically didn't know he had them. The depths you cultists will go to are unimaginable. No different than the Trump cultists and their retarded stories to come up with reasons why Trump had classified docs. You're just the other side of the coin.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Stoic View Post

      If he stole them, it's entirely different.

      But if he took them accidentally, you can't expect him to return them promptly if he doesn't know he has them.
      I'll agree with the stolen part.

      Hard to believe that he's had some of them in his possession for 16 years and never came across them.

      I agree with what a commentor on CNN said: "It's not the number of documents, it's the mishandling that is a crime." At best, cooperating with the DOJ or FBI should get him a mitigated sentence.
      "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

      "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post

        Except supply and demand would end up causing everything to get more expensive as everyone's income increased and everyone wanted more stuff. Meaning eventually everyone would be back to the same old poverty.

        Relying on an AI chatbot for advice is probably not a good idea. It isn't actually thinking. It is a simple language processor. It also gives you what you ask for. For example:


        Explain why equitable incomes would not maximize total happiness given the same total money supply.

        Equitable incomes, where everyone receives the same amount of money, would not necessarily maximize total happiness for several reasons.

        First, people have different needs and preferences, and a one-size-fits-all approach to income distribution may not take these differences into account. For example, someone with a large family may have higher expenses than someone living alone, and would therefore require a higher income to maintain the same level of happiness.

        Second, people have different abilities and motivations, and a more unequal distribution of income may provide incentives for individuals to work harder and be more productive, which can lead to economic growth and increased overall prosperity.

        Third, people have different aspirations and goals, and some people may find greater happiness in achieving their goals even if it means earning more than others.

        Lastly, people may have different risk preferences, some may be more content with less money and more security, while others may be willing to take on more risks for greater rewards.
        Therefore, while equitable incomes may seem fair and just on the surface, they may not be the most effective way to maximize total happiness given the same total money supply.


        Assuming questions are asked in a neutral manner, it could be a useful mediator in some TWEB discussions. For example:

        Does time exist in the Block Universe?

        In the block universe theory, also known as eternalism, the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in a four-dimensional spacetime. Time is not seen as something that flows or progresses, but rather as another dimension like space. According to this theory, the universe is a "block" of spacetime that exists in its entirety, and events that we perceive as happening in the "present" are simply our current location within the block. So technically speaking, time exist but it's not change or flow.


        (I don't know what happened to its grammar in that last sentence.)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Stoic View Post

          Assuming questions are asked in a neutral manner, it could be a useful mediator in some TWEB discussions. For example:

          Does time exist in the Block Universe?

          In the block universe theory, also known as eternalism, the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in a four-dimensional spacetime. Time is not seen as something that flows or progresses, but rather as another dimension like space. According to this theory, the universe is a "block" of spacetime that exists in its entirety, and events that we perceive as happening in the "present" are simply our current location within the block. So technically speaking, time exist but it's not change or flow.


          (I don't know what happened to its grammar in that last sentence.)
          I can see it now... Tweb becomes a site with dueling ChatGPT threads.

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          • #20
            At least ChatGPT admits to not being a human when asked.
            If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Except supply and demand would end up causing everything to get more expensive as everyone's income increased and everyone wanted more stuff.
              The poor getting richer does increase demand yes. This is generally good for economic growth for that reason. By contrast, inequality increasing harms economic growth for a similar reason.

              You would only get inflation in the event that economic growth couldn't keep up with the increased demand, which doesn't seem likely.

              Meaning eventually everyone would be back to the same old poverty.
              No.

              Relying on an AI chatbot for advice is probably not a good idea. It isn't actually thinking.
              Indeed, I was merely testing its knowledge in the area. I get my knowledge from academic research, not AIs.

              The poor quality answers it gave to you inverting the question shows it's not necessarily to be relied on.
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                The poor getting richer does increase demand yes. This is generally good for economic growth for that reason. By contrast, inequality increasing harms economic growth for a similar reason.
                Sweeden is the third most unequal (income wise) country in the world, and is often held up as a shining example of how others should handle their economy.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  The poor getting richer does increase demand yes. This is generally good for economic growth for that reason. By contrast, inequality increasing harms economic growth for a similar reason.

                  You would only get inflation in the event that economic growth couldn't keep up with the increased demand, which doesn't seem likely.

                  No.

                  Indeed, I was merely testing its knowledge in the area. I get my knowledge from academic research, not AIs.

                  The poor quality answers it gave to you inverting the question shows it's not necessarily to be relied on.
                  So if everyone is rich and makes the same as everyone else, then what incentive is there to increase production of anything? Why, for example, would someone build more houses if they already have as much money as they will ever have since they are getting paid the same as everyone else and are already rich? Only capitalism, competition and the ability to get richer than you are gives you the incentive to produce and improve your products.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                    So if everyone is rich and makes the same as everyone else, then what incentive is there to increase production of anything? Why, for example, would someone build more houses if they already have as much money as they will ever have since they are getting paid the same as everyone else and are already rich? Only capitalism, competition and the ability to get richer than you are gives you the incentive to produce and improve your products.
                    Please don't build more houses...I know you got to, but please make them look nice. I'm just referring to all the ticky tacky strewn all over America.



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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                      Sweeden is the third most unequal (income wise) country in the world
                      A quick Google shows that claim to be extremely false.

                      Edit. Ah, you meant wealth, not income. Sweden has very low income inequality but very high wealth inequality. Well I would say it sounds like Sweden needs some strong inheritance taxes.
                      Last edited by Starlight; 01-27-2023, 08:28 AM.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        So if everyone is rich and makes the same as everyone else, then what incentive is there to increase production of anything?
                        I don't advocate for everyone having the exact same income. A bit of inequality to inspire productivity is fine.

                        From empirical observation, countries that have low inequality are still able to inspire this productivity, but the people report being happier.
                        Last edited by Starlight; 01-27-2023, 08:29 AM.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          A quick Google shows that claim to be extremely false.

                          Edit. Ah, you meant wealth, not income. Sweden has very low income inequality but very high wealth inequality. Well I would say it sounds like Sweden needs some strong inheritance taxes.
                          Why? After all, if they are a model economy then the wealth inequality isn't an issue.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            I don't advocate for everyone having the exact same income. A bit of inequality to inspire productivity is fine.

                            From empirical observation, countries that have low inequality are still able to inspire this productivity, but the people report being happier.
                            Then you will end up with the same system as we have now, with just a higher level of "poor" - with people who are uber rich and those who are what we would now consider "rich" being at the bottom again, Prices will increase so that those at the bottom still can't afford things while the rich get richer.

                            Heck if you compare incomes of say 1960 to today you will see the same thing. Back then middle class made like $4,000 a year. And poor might be $1,000 a year. You increase everyone's income to what would be considered rich back then, say $50,000 for middle class and $20,000 for poor, and you have today's income. But are the poor any richer? No, because prices of everything increased also. You could buy an average home in 1960 for around $11,000. But today it is around $200,000. So if you increase incomes, you also increase inflation and everything settles into the same old thing.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                              Name any other crime that the clock starts not when the crime happens but when someone realizes what they've done.
                              The "clock" argument is as silly as the "They didn't intend to break the law" excuse.

                              "I clocked you going 90MPH in a 25MPH zone."
                              "I'm sorry, officer, I didn't intend to break the law."
                              "Oh, well, in that case, I'll let you be on your way."

                              Yeah, it doesn't work like that.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Machinist View Post

                                Please don't build more houses...I know you got to, but please make them look nice. I'm just referring to all the ticky tacky strewn all over America.


                                Reminds me a little song By Malvina Reynolds my guitar teacher taught me.
                                Little Boxes

                                Little boxes on a hillside
                                Little boxes made of ticky tacky
                                Little boxes on a hillside
                                Little boxes all the same

                                There's a pink one ,and a green one
                                And a blue one, and a yellow one
                                And they're all made out of ticky tacky
                                and they all look just the same....


                                ​​there is more but since I am on my tablet I can't copy and paste the youtube url.

                                Last edited by RumTumTugger; 01-27-2023, 09:27 AM.

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