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    I asked ChatGP how likely it is that someone will go to prison if he accidentally takes classified documents home:

    The handling of classified information is a serious matter, and any unauthorized removal or mishandling of classified documents can result in legal consequences. However, the likelihood of someone going to prison for accidentally taking classified documents home would depend on the specific circumstances of the case.

    A number of factors could be taken into account when determining the appropriate legal action, such as the nature of the documents in question, the individual's intent, and the harm caused by the unauthorized removal or mishandling. For example, if an individual unknowingly took a classified document home and returned it as soon as they realized their mistake, the consequences would likely be less severe than if the same individual had intentionally removed the document and kept it for an extended period of time.

    Additionally, the severity of the consequences would also depend on the nature of the document, some document might cause more harm than others.

    However, in general, it is not common that someone goes to prison for accidentally taking classified documents home, as long as the person is cooperative and the documents are returned in a timely manner. The consequences can vary from reprimand to termination of employment, and in some cases, there may be civil or administrative penalties, but it would be highly unlikely to face a criminal charge.

    It is important to remember that handling classified information requires a high degree of responsibility and security clearance holders should be familiar with the rules and regulations of handling classified information.

    (emphasis mine)

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    I enjoyed asking it about some of my own interests, such as academic research into happiness, and how this can connect to government and politics. It has a habit of giving verbose answers with its first and last paragraphs being filler, so I'll just post some middle paragraphs:

    Me: Does income have a logarithmic relationship with happiness?

    ChatGPT: Some studies have found evidence to support the idea of a logarithmic relationship between income and happiness. For example, research has shown that people who are very poor are likely to experience a significant increase in happiness as their income increases, but the relationship between income and happiness tends to flatten out at higher levels of income.

    Me: If there is a logarithmic relationship between income and happiness does that imply that more equitable incomes would maximize total happiness given the same total money supply?

    ChatGPT: If this is the case, then it could be argued that more equitable incomes, in which the wealth is distributed more evenly among members of a society, would maximize total happiness given the same total money supply. This is because a more equitable distribution of wealth would ensure that everyone has enough income to meet their basic needs and provide for their well-being, while also allowing for some variation in income that can provide incentives and rewards.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #3
      My son was using an AI chat the other day. Apparently it really helped him with his coding. He does python.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        I enjoyed asking it about some of my own interests, such as academic research into happiness, and how this can connect to government and politics. It has a habit of giving verbose answers with its first and last paragraphs being filler, so I'll just post some middle paragraphs:

        Me: Does income have a logarithmic relationship with happiness?

        ChatGPT: Some studies have found evidence to support the idea of a logarithmic relationship between income and happiness. For example, research has shown that people who are very poor are likely to experience a significant increase in happiness as their income increases, but the relationship between income and happiness tends to flatten out at higher levels of income.

        Me: If there is a logarithmic relationship between income and happiness does that imply that more equitable incomes would maximize total happiness given the same total money supply?

        ChatGPT: If this is the case, then it could be argued that more equitable incomes, in which the wealth is distributed more evenly among members of a society, would maximize total happiness given the same total money supply. This is because a more equitable distribution of wealth would ensure that everyone has enough income to meet their basic needs and provide for their well-being, while also allowing for some variation in income that can provide incentives and rewards.
        Except supply and demand would end up causing everything to get more expensive as everyone's income increased and everyone wanted more stuff. Meaning eventually everyone would be back to the same old poverty.

        Relying on an AI chatbot for advice is probably not a good idea. It isn't actually thinking. It is a simple language processor. It also gives you what you ask for. For example:


        Explain why equitable incomes would not maximize total happiness given the same total money supply.

        Equitable incomes, where everyone receives the same amount of money, would not necessarily maximize total happiness for several reasons.

        First, people have different needs and preferences, and a one-size-fits-all approach to income distribution may not take these differences into account. For example, someone with a large family may have higher expenses than someone living alone, and would therefore require a higher income to maintain the same level of happiness.

        Second, people have different abilities and motivations, and a more unequal distribution of income may provide incentives for individuals to work harder and be more productive, which can lead to economic growth and increased overall prosperity.

        Third, people have different aspirations and goals, and some people may find greater happiness in achieving their goals even if it means earning more than others.

        Lastly, people may have different risk preferences, some may be more content with less money and more security, while others may be willing to take on more risks for greater rewards.
        Therefore, while equitable incomes may seem fair and just on the surface, they may not be the most effective way to maximize total happiness given the same total money supply.




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        • #5
          Originally posted by Stoic View Post
          I asked ChatGP how likely it is that someone will go to prison if he accidentally takes classified documents home:

          The handling of classified information is a serious matter, and any unauthorized removal or mishandling of classified documents can result in legal consequences. However, the likelihood of someone going to prison for accidentally taking classified documents home would depend on the specific circumstances of the case.

          A number of factors could be taken into account when determining the appropriate legal action, such as the nature of the documents in question, the individual's intent, and the harm caused by the unauthorized removal or mishandling. For example, if an individual unknowingly took a classified document home and returned it as soon as they realized their mistake, the consequences would likely be less severe than if the same individual had intentionally removed the document and kept it for an extended period of time.

          Additionally, the severity of the consequences would also depend on the nature of the document, some document might cause more harm than others.

          However, in general, it is not common that someone goes to prison for accidentally taking classified documents home, as long as the person is cooperative and the documents are returned in a timely manner. The consequences can vary from reprimand to termination of employment, and in some cases, there may be civil or administrative penalties, but it would be highly unlikely to face a criminal charge.

          It is important to remember that handling classified information requires a high degree of responsibility and security clearance holders should be familiar with the rules and regulations of handling classified information.

          (emphasis mine)
          Maybe Biden can hire ChatGPT as his attorney.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stoic View Post
            A number of factors could be taken into account when determining the appropriate legal action, such as the nature of the documents in question, the individual's intent, and the harm caused by the unauthorized removal or mishandling.
            biden.jpg

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Stoic View Post
              I asked ChatGP how likely it is that someone will go to prison if he accidentally takes classified documents home:

              The handling of classified information is a serious matter, and any unauthorized removal or mishandling of classified documents can result in legal consequences. However, the likelihood of someone going to prison for accidentally taking classified documents home would depend on the specific circumstances of the case.

              A number of factors could be taken into account when determining the appropriate legal action, such as the nature of the documents in question, the individual's intent, and the harm caused by the unauthorized removal or mishandling. For example, if an individual unknowingly took a classified document home and returned it as soon as they realized their mistake, the consequences would likely be less severe than if the same individual had intentionally removed the document and kept it for an extended period of time.

              Additionally, the severity of the consequences would also depend on the nature of the document, some document might cause more harm than others.

              However, in general, it is not common that someone goes to prison for accidentally taking classified documents home, as long as the person is cooperative and the documents are returned in a timely manner. The consequences can vary from reprimand to termination of employment, and in some cases, there may be civil or administrative penalties, but it would be highly unlikely to face a criminal charge.

              It is important to remember that handling classified information requires a high degree of responsibility and security clearance holders should be familiar with the rules and regulations of handling classified information.

              (emphasis mine)
              I'd hardly call 6 years a timely manner

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                I'd hardly call 6 years a timely manner
                I don't think the clock starts until he realizes he has them.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                  Maybe Biden can hire ChatGPT as his attorney.
                  Shouldn't be necessary. Any decent attorney can figure it out.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                    I'd hardly call 6 years a timely manner
                    I heard this morning it's 16 years for the documents from when he was a Senator.
                    "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                    "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Stoic View Post

                      I don't think the clock starts until he realizes he has them.
                      Name any other crime that the clock starts not when the crime happens but when someone realizes what they've done.
                      "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                      "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Stoic View Post

                        I don't think the clock starts until he realizes he has them.
                        It starts the moment he first stole them. That his addled dementia-pocked brain didn't continue to realize he still had them means little.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                          It starts the moment he first stole them. That his addled dementia-pocked brain didn't continue to realize he still had them means little.
                          Yep. He knew at the time that he had them. Then he forgot. Forgetting isn't a legal excuse. "Oh yeah I did rob that bank back in 2015, but then I forgot I had the cash until last week. Here you go."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                            Yep. He knew at the time that he had them. Then he forgot. Forgetting isn't a legal excuse. "Oh yeah I did rob that bank back in 2015, but then I forgot I had the cash until last week. Here you go."
                            Yep.

                            And as we've discovered, his son (who was working on a deal with a Chinese energy company that was essentially government controlled) had direct access to the garage in question, and the office space was at a place with disturbing China links as well.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                              It starts the moment he first stole them. That his addled dementia-pocked brain didn't continue to realize he still had them means little.
                              If he stole them, it's entirely different.

                              But if he took them accidentally, you can't expect him to return them promptly if he doesn't know he has them.

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