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EU Gives Green Light for Two Insect Species to Be used for Human Consumption
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Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Diogenes View PostCurrent prices do not include punitive taxation. Green taxes would be similar to sin taxes on cigarettes to dissuade consumption.
In New Zealand currently, as far as I am aware, there are no major proposals for Green sin taxes the way there are on cigarettes to dissuade consumption. The Green taxes are always in the context of emissions-trading schemes, so some actions become cheaper (e.g. forestry) and some become more expensive (e.g. meat production) but it's net-zero.
You might be interested to know that NZ has gone really hard down the road of sin taxes on cigarettes, with the people pushing that policy believing that it would fully eliminate cigarette use. (If everyone was Perfectly Rational as they are in many economist models, ever-increasing prices would indeed create ever-decreasing demand) It didn't really work beyond a certain point and continued price increases on cigarettes have begun to have negative side effects as people who want/need to continue smoking have to take extreme measures to get the cigarettes and/or get trapped in poverty by the cost. Also worth noting that it wasn't 'woke' politicians pushing this, it's been political representatives of the racial group that has the biggest problem with cigarettes pushing policies designed to try and wean their own people off cigarettes in an effect to improve their own people's health outcomes.
Perhaps the phrase "due to" is too complex for you."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by seer View PostHow long before it becomes mandatory?
“If a billion people stop eating meat, I tell you, it has a big impact,” Snabe began.
Last year, the German city of Freiburg announced it would remove meat from all school meals by 2023 with the implementation of vegetarian-only menus as Europe embraces the ‘eat the bugs’ agenda... German outlet Faz reports that children attending primary school or daycare in Freiburg will no longer have the option of eating meat for lunch after a ruling that all meat and fish offerings will be removed entirely from meals starting next year.
Here it is. Have a read, and realize how much the news source you are quoting has lied to you about what is happening and why.
Only vegetarian food in Freiburg schools
The city of Freiburg wants to offer only vegetarian dishes in primary schools and day care centers from the 2023/2024 school year. "We want to relieve the parents," says the Freiburg school mayor Christine Buchheit (Greens). “Because many people forget to choose between a robber schnitzel and a patty a week in advance. It also serves to save costs and simplify administration.”...
"We expect that the prices will go through the roof next year, and a school meal should then cost at least seven euros," says Buchheit. Simplifying the offering to one menu line is a way to save money. "We do not ban meat consumption in schools, everyone can bring Bifi bars [salami rolls] in their school bags," says a spokesman for the city of Freiburg. "It has nothing to do with ideology."
The propaganda outlet you are credulously relying on to weave a narrative for you, is falsely drawing a connection between one city school's decision to simply their menu and save on cost, with the completely independent decision by some EU bureaucrats to legalize the production and human-eating of insects in Europe."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Well if the left has its way...
I'd also remind you that insects and grubs have been consumed for a long time time by humans and I suspect most of us here have, at various times especially in our youth, consumed carmine/cochineal in products.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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I don't think we'll be chowing down on a bowl of grubs. You can get very innovative with the bio-chemistry from insects. Combine that tech with some other food science tech, like the study of algae as a food source, and we could come up with a gastro friendly future food that is both yummy and filling.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostHave we ever had mandatory food in history? (Serious question) After a quick think, I don't think I'm aware of any. Why do you pretend like it's a given that you conspiracy theory about something happening that's never happened before is so certain?
Most "mandates" for consumption (not just food consumption) tend to work through bans. Take light-bulbs. People were forced onto CFL and LED because the standard bulbs were banned.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostDon't you guys welcome them increasing freedom by allowing the production and eating of more food types?
It's interesting a thread about the increase in freedom is focusing on the idea that it's a conspiracy to reduce freedom.
One of the big proposed uses for insect protein is to feed to chickens, replacing current chicken-feed with a potentially better option. Chicken is the climate-friendliest of the major meats and this would make it even more so.
Of course the chicken industry would probably buy whatever's cheapest and whether insect protein would ever out-compete on price the plant-protein they current feed chickens with remains to be seen.
The term "meal worm" will take on a whole new significance.
But at least it isn't Soylent Green.
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post
As part of New Zealand's commitment to the Paris Agreement, where all countries have to come up with their own plans to monitor and reduce their carbon emissions such that climate change is limited
When such massive exceptions are carved out, one day you have to ask just how much do the prophets of gloom and doom believe their own hype.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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