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EU Gives Green Light for Two Insect Species to Be used for Human Consumption
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Chinese love them. To me they're OK. They just gave you permission as if you actually needed it.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Chinese love them. To me they're OK. They just gave you permission as if you actually needed it.
I can't wait to see what Orwellian name they give to cricket patties.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Don't you guys welcome them increasing freedom by allowing the production and eating of more food types?
It's interesting a thread about the increase in freedom is focusing on the idea that it's a conspiracy to reduce freedom.
One of the big proposed uses for insect protein is to feed to chickens, replacing current chicken-feed with a potentially better option. Chicken is the climate-friendliest of the major meats and this would make it even more so.
Of course the chicken industry would probably buy whatever's cheapest and whether insect protein would ever out-compete on price the plant-protein they current feed chickens with remains to be seen."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostDon't you guys welcome them increasing freedom by allowing the production and eating of more food types?
It's interesting a thread about the increase in freedom is focusing on the idea that it's a conspiracy to reduce freedom.
One of the big proposed uses for insect protein is to feed to chickens, replacing current chicken-feed with a potentially better option. Chicken is the climate-friendliest of the major meats and this would make it even more so.
Of course the chicken industry would probably buy whatever's cheapest and whether insect protein would ever out-compete on price the plant-protein they current feed chickens with remains to be seen.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View PostI'd give it five years, at most, before meat prices due to environmental taxes, which New Zealand is already considering, will force people to "choose" insect food.
In the interests of clarity. what do you mean 'force people' to choose insect food due to price? There are, presumably, in existence somewhere, sufficiently poor people who cannot currently afford meat. Such people are, currently, being 'forced' to not buy meat due to price. If insect food is currently cheaper, and they can afford it and buy it, are they currently being 'forced' to buy insect food due to price?
In five years, are you going to disingenuously claim your prediction is true because the same impoverished people who currently can't afford meat still won't be able to afford it in five years? In other words, is your prediction completely meaningless in the sense that it is trivially true and will always be true? Or are you actually making some kind of real prediction that people in general won't be able to afford meat?
environmental taxes, which New Zealand is already considering
To the extent that it is still a work in progress, I don't have many feelings about the current state of affairs. Probably my only strong opinion on the subject is that it currently looks like one sector is unfairly being allowed to get away with doing less than other sectors, and that this is occurring without major public approval and sign-off. That sector that is unfairly being allowed to get away with doing less is... livestock. To the extent that environmental emissions controls/taxes are being floated for them, they are getting hugely dialed down compared to other industries and sectors. The government specifically exempted them from the rest of the system and set up a special working-group for them to let the sector come up with its own system.
Of course, our resident Kiwi will either remain absent from this thread or be fully supportive.
"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostWhat do you mean free? Obviously everyone is free to eat bugs. How is this an increase in freedom? Maybe this EU memo allows bugs to be served in restaurants?
The European Union has given the green light for an additional two insect species to be used for human consumption.
The Acheta domesticus, better known as the house cricket, has been approved for human consumption within the European Union, according to documents.
This comes as further approval for the sale and consumption of the larval form of Alphitobius diaperionus, or mealworm, will be given the green light for human consumption in the form of powder, frozen, paste, and dried.
Obviously nothing stops you wandering outside and catching a random bug and eating it. But regulations control what can be sold in supermarkets, restaurants, etc, and marketed for human consumption. A couple of species of insect have been added to the 'allowed' list. Hence more freedom to choose what to eat."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostRead the OP:
The European Union has given the green light for an additional two insect species to be used for human consumption.
The Acheta domesticus, better known as the house cricket, has been approved for human consumption within the European Union, according to documents.
This comes as further approval for the sale and consumption of the larval form of Alphitobius diaperionus, or mealworm, will be given the green light for human consumption in the form of powder, frozen, paste, and dried.
Obviously nothing stops you wandering outside and catching a random bug and eating it. But regulations control what can be sold in supermarkets, restaurants, etc, and marketed for human consumption. A couple of species of insect have been added to the 'allowed' list. Hence more freedom to choose what to eat.
Well I guess that's a good thing.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSeems like an almost-certainly false prediction by you, so I will be happy to quote and laugh at you in five years time if we are both still posting.
I would be similarly cavalier if I had the opportunity to bet against what's happening know. I hope I'm wrong.
In the interests of clarity. what do you mean 'force people' to choose insect food due to price? There are, presumably, in existence somewhere, sufficiently poor people who cannot currently afford meat. Such people are, currently, being 'forced' to not buy meat due to price. If insect food is currently cheaper, and they can afford it and buy it, are they currently being 'forced' to buy insect food due to price?
Current prices do not include punitive taxation. Green taxes would be similar to sin taxes on cigarettes to dissuade consumption.
In five years, are you going to disingenuously claim your prediction is true because the same impoverished people who currently can't afford meat still won't be able to afford it in five years? In other words, is your prediction completely meaningless in the sense that it is trivially true and will always be true? Or are you actually making some kind of real prediction that people in general won't be able to afford meat?
As part of New Zealand's commitment to the Paris Agreement, where all countries have to come up with their own plans to monitor and reduce their carbon emissions such that climate change is limited,
Ah yes, denuclearisation in Germany is certainly working toward said goal. As the video Seer pointed out, the major polluters are developing countries.
I only bother to read some threads. Please don't try and read so much into whether I happen to see and/or bother to respond to a post/thread.
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
Well I guess that's a good thing.P1) If , then I win.
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C) I win.
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First there's oohing and aahing from the left when we are told we are allowed to eat bugs even though we're already allowed to eat bugs if we want.
Then there's running and screaming from the left when we're told beef and poultry and pork and game and lamb are banned and no one but the very wealthy are allowed to eat them
It's not the being "allowed" to eat the bugs, it's the "we are gradually boiling the water so the frogs don't notice that our end game is to get rid of all other meat" that gives us pause.
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Originally posted by mossrose View Post
Then there's running and screaming from the left when we're told beef and poultry and pork and game and lamb are banned and no one but the very wealthy are allowed to eat them
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostDon't you guys welcome them increasing freedom by allowing the production and eating of more food types?
As The Daily Fetched reported last week, the chairman of the largest industrial manufacturing company in Europe told a panel at the World Economic Forum in Davos that in order to save the climate, “one billion people should stop eating meat.”
Jim Hagemann Snabe went full ‘great reset’ by pushing the idea of replacing meat with synthetic proteins at a “Mobilizing for Climate.”
“If a billion people stop eating meat, I tell you, it has a big impact,” Snabe began.
“Not only does it have a big impact on the current food system, but it will also inspire the innovation of food systems,” he added.
“I predict we will have proteins not coming from meat in the future, they will probably taste even better.”
“They will be zero carbon and much healthier than the kind of food we eat today, that is the mission we need to get on,” the Siemens boss continued.
Last year, the German city of Freiburg announced it would remove meat from all school meals by 2023 with the implementation of vegetarian-only menus as Europe embraces the ‘eat the bugs’ agenda.
As we reported in October:
German outlet Faz reports that children attending primary school or daycare in Freiburg will no longer have the option of eating meat for lunch after a ruling that all meat and fish offerings will be removed entirely from meals starting next year.
Meanwhile, in the UK and the Netherlands, the government is encouraging elementary school children to eat bugs as a “sustainable” source of protein.
Children at primary schools will be offered insect protein to encourage youngsters’ appetite for “alternative protein,” Walesonline reported.
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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