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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    They want us eating crickets.
    Chinese love them. To me they're OK. They just gave you permission as if you actually needed it.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

      Chinese love them. To me they're OK. They just gave you permission as if you actually needed it.
      Just because you eat boogers, don't expect the rest of us to follow!
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      • #18
        Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

        Chinese love them. To me they're OK. They just gave you permission as if you actually needed it.
        The ultimate goal is for us to eat only what our WEF masters allow us to eat.

        I can't wait to see what Orwellian name they give to cricket patties.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post


          I can't wait to see what Orwellian name they give to cricket patties.

          Cricket Patties. Sounds like a tasty snack. Take them with you on the go!

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          • #20
            Don't you guys welcome them increasing freedom by allowing the production and eating of more food types?

            It's interesting a thread about the increase in freedom is focusing on the idea that it's a conspiracy to reduce freedom.

            One of the big proposed uses for insect protein is to feed to chickens, replacing current chicken-feed with a potentially better option. Chicken is the climate-friendliest of the major meats and this would make it even more so.

            Of course the chicken industry would probably buy whatever's cheapest and whether insect protein would ever out-compete on price the plant-protein they current feed chickens with remains to be seen.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Don't you guys welcome them increasing freedom by allowing the production and eating of more food types?

              It's interesting a thread about the increase in freedom is focusing on the idea that it's a conspiracy to reduce freedom.

              One of the big proposed uses for insect protein is to feed to chickens, replacing current chicken-feed with a potentially better option. Chicken is the climate-friendliest of the major meats and this would make it even more so.

              Of course the chicken industry would probably buy whatever's cheapest and whether insect protein would ever out-compete on price the plant-protein they current feed chickens with remains to be seen.
              What do you mean free? Obviously everyone is free to eat bugs. How is this an increase in freedom? Maybe this EU memo allows bugs to be served in restaurants?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
                I'd give it five years, at most, before meat prices due to environmental taxes, which New Zealand is already considering, will force people to "choose" insect food.
                Seems like an almost-certainly false prediction by you, so I will be happy to quote and laugh at you in five years time if we are both still posting.

                In the interests of clarity. what do you mean 'force people' to choose insect food due to price? There are, presumably, in existence somewhere, sufficiently poor people who cannot currently afford meat. Such people are, currently, being 'forced' to not buy meat due to price. If insect food is currently cheaper, and they can afford it and buy it, are they currently being 'forced' to buy insect food due to price?

                In five years, are you going to disingenuously claim your prediction is true because the same impoverished people who currently can't afford meat still won't be able to afford it in five years? In other words, is your prediction completely meaningless in the sense that it is trivially true and will always be true? Or are you actually making some kind of real prediction that people in general won't be able to afford meat?

                As part of New Zealand's commitment to the Paris Agreement, where all countries have to come up with their own plans to monitor and reduce their carbon emissions such that climate change is limited, New Zealand is looking at a range of options currently as to how to do that. This involves multiple government and industry working groups writing ongoing reports and doing continuous consultation with industry and companies about which options would be easy/hard to implement etc, what the total carbon savings would be, and whether it all adds up etc.

                To the extent that it is still a work in progress, I don't have many feelings about the current state of affairs. Probably my only strong opinion on the subject is that it currently looks like one sector is unfairly being allowed to get away with doing less than other sectors, and that this is occurring without major public approval and sign-off. That sector that is unfairly being allowed to get away with doing less is... livestock. To the extent that environmental emissions controls/taxes are being floated for them, they are getting hugely dialed down compared to other industries and sectors. The government specifically exempted them from the rest of the system and set up a special working-group for them to let the sector come up with its own system.

                Of course, our resident Kiwi will either remain absent from this thread or be fully supportive.
                I only bother to read some threads. Please don't try and read so much into whether I happen to see and/or bother to respond to a post/thread.

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                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Machinist View Post
                  What do you mean free? Obviously everyone is free to eat bugs. How is this an increase in freedom? Maybe this EU memo allows bugs to be served in restaurants?
                  Read the OP:
                  The European Union has given the green light for an additional two insect species to be used for human consumption.

                  The Acheta domesticus, better known as the house cricket, has been approved for human consumption within the European Union, according to documents.

                  This comes as further approval for the sale and consumption of the larval form of Alphitobius diaperionus, or mealworm, will be given the green light for human consumption in the form of powder, frozen, paste, and dried.

                  Obviously nothing stops you wandering outside and catching a random bug and eating it. But regulations control what can be sold in supermarkets, restaurants, etc, and marketed for human consumption. A couple of species of insect have been added to the 'allowed' list. Hence more freedom to choose what to eat.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Read the OP:
                    The European Union has given the green light for an additional two insect species to be used for human consumption.

                    The Acheta domesticus, better known as the house cricket, has been approved for human consumption within the European Union, according to documents.

                    This comes as further approval for the sale and consumption of the larval form of Alphitobius diaperionus, or mealworm, will be given the green light for human consumption in the form of powder, frozen, paste, and dried.

                    Obviously nothing stops you wandering outside and catching a random bug and eating it. But regulations control what can be sold in supermarkets, restaurants, etc, and marketed for human consumption. A couple of species of insect have been added to the 'allowed' list. Hence more freedom to choose what to eat.

                    Well I guess that's a good thing.




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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Seems like an almost-certainly false prediction by you, so I will be happy to quote and laugh at you in five years time if we are both still posting.

                      I would be similarly cavalier if I had the opportunity to bet against what's happening know. I hope I'm wrong.


                      In the interests of clarity. what do you mean 'force people' to choose insect food due to price? There are, presumably, in existence somewhere, sufficiently poor people who cannot currently afford meat. Such people are, currently, being 'forced' to not buy meat due to price. If insect food is currently cheaper, and they can afford it and buy it, are they currently being 'forced' to buy insect food due to price?

                      Current prices do not include punitive taxation. Green taxes would be similar to sin taxes on cigarettes to dissuade consumption.


                      In five years, are you going to disingenuously claim your prediction is true because the same impoverished people who currently can't afford meat still won't be able to afford it in five years? In other words, is your prediction completely meaningless in the sense that it is trivially true and will always be true? Or are you actually making some kind of real prediction that people in general won't be able to afford meat?
                      Perhaps the phrase "due to" is too complex for you.


                      As part of New Zealand's commitment to the Paris Agreement, where all countries have to come up with their own plans to monitor and reduce their carbon emissions such that climate change is limited,

                      Ah yes, denuclearisation in Germany is certainly working toward said goal. As the video Seer pointed out, the major polluters are developing countries.




                      I only bother to read some threads. Please don't try and read so much into whether I happen to see and/or bother to respond to a post/thread.
                      You certainly had things to say on the WEF thread. And now they are furthering their goals of the plebs eating bug, not owning things, and not being happy.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Machinist View Post


                        Well I guess that's a good thing.
                        It also gives manufacturers the freedom to replace food with a percentage of insect to lower consumer prices. Much like how chicken and pork hotdogs are cheaper than all beef. How many customers do you think actually read what's in their food on the labels? As punitive taxes on beef are added, real meat becomes more and more expensive.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Machinist View Post
                          Well I guess that's a good thing.
                          I'm in favor of as many people as possible eating insects, so there'll be more real food left for me.

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                          • #28
                            First there's oohing and aahing from the left when we are told we are allowed to eat bugs even though we're already allowed to eat bugs if we want.

                            Then there's running and screaming from the left when we're told beef and poultry and pork and game and lamb are banned and no one but the very wealthy are allowed to eat them

                            It's not the being "allowed" to eat the bugs, it's the "we are gradually boiling the water so the frogs don't notice that our end game is to get rid of all other meat" that gives us pause.


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                              Then there's running and screaming from the left when we're told beef and poultry and pork and game and lamb are banned and no one but the very wealthy are allowed to eat them
                              That's the way it is today. Only the wealthy can have filet mignon. If you're poor, then you get poor quality food.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                Don't you guys welcome them increasing freedom by allowing the production and eating of more food types?
                                How long before it becomes mandatory?

                                As The Daily Fetched reported last week, the chairman of the largest industrial manufacturing company in Europe told a panel at the World Economic Forum in Davos that in order to save the climate, “one billion people should stop eating meat.”

                                Jim Hagemann Snabe went full ‘great reset’ by pushing the idea of replacing meat with synthetic proteins at a “Mobilizing for Climate.”

                                “If a billion people stop eating meat, I tell you, it has a big impact,” Snabe began.

                                “Not only does it have a big impact on the current food system, but it will also inspire the innovation of food systems,” he added.

                                “I predict we will have proteins not coming from meat in the future, they will probably taste even better.”

                                “They will be zero carbon and much healthier than the kind of food we eat today, that is the mission we need to get on,” the Siemens boss continued.

                                Last year, the German city of Freiburg announced it would remove meat from all school meals by 2023 with the implementation of vegetarian-only menus as Europe embraces the ‘eat the bugs’ agenda.

                                As we reported in October:

                                German outlet Faz reports that children attending primary school or daycare in Freiburg will no longer have the option of eating meat for lunch after a ruling that all meat and fish offerings will be removed entirely from meals starting next year.

                                Meanwhile, in the UK and the Netherlands, the government is encouraging elementary school children to eat bugs as a “sustainable” source of protein.

                                Children at primary schools will be offered insect protein to encourage youngsters’ appetite for “alternative protein,” Walesonline reported.

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