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Oregon schools encouraged to conceal student's gender from parents.
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
Fair enough. Is your opinion on deception the same in my scenario in which instead of a difference in pronouns, there's a different nickname? Quoted for convenience:
Imagine that a student goes by the name Ollie at school and is called that name by all the students and teachers including myself. Ollie's parents hate the nickname and prefer to call him Oliver. If I use the name Oliver for that student when discussing his academic progress with his parents because that's the name they prefer to use for him am I concealing or deceiving them by following their lead?
Also, how do you feel this deception is resolved in light of my point number two in the text you quoted?
Now if he wanted to go by "Olivia" at school and the teachers insisted on calling him "Oliver" only when talking the parents, then it would be deceptive.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
There is no deception in your example. Ollie and Oliver are enough alike that there is no real difference, and your example is just silly.
Now if he wanted to go by "Olivia" at school and the teachers insisted on calling him "Oliver" only when talking the parents, then it would be deceptive.
Yes, the count of one is 5, and the count of the other one is purple, therefore they are comparable for an analogy.
When looking at Analogies that don't support their argument.
Yes, the two cars were speeding with people of the same age, same gender, same criminal record, by the same cops, in the same town, with the same make and model, etc, but one car was orange so you can't compare the two cars at all, it is an entirely apples and oranges comparison.
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Originally posted by Faber View Post
Hopefully that was all that got broken.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMy next experiment was seeing if an umbrella could act as a parachute. My parents were not pleased when they found out I broke the umbrella.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
So you thought you were Mary Poppins, how cute!
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
It would be wrong for a teacher or anyone really to try to convince someone they have a gender identity that individual doesn't identify with.
That's very different from teachers going along with a student's gender self-identifies.
And how, pray tell, do theses children become deluded to the point of allegedly having these gender self-identities? Groomers, which doesn't necessarily have a sexual component as successors are "groomed", although queer theory necessarily leads to the normalisations of adult-minor relationships.
Also, teachers using the gender identity a student identifies with has nothing to do with any type of surgery.P1) If , then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
That's why kids are groomed to accept the new gender identity. Even the show Blue's Clues had a pride parade that had female animals with double mastectomy scars.
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Not exactly prominent but still there.
Et tu Blues Clues?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Faber View PostWouldn't a beaver have eight mastectomy scars?1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
The rainbow brigade isn't known for its grasp of the fundamentals.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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I'm hearing that part of this is a "privacy concern".
This doesn't really make sense to me. After all, in the situations we are talking about, it's not that the kid is confiding in secret to the school, it's enabling the kid to live a double life. At school they are out, proud, etc. They are IN public, expressing themselves at school, being called by their "preferred name" and "preferred pronouns" by the teachers in front of all the other students, etc.
That's not private.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI had to look this up, and sure enough they included a trans beaver with what are called "top scars"
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Not exactly prominent but still there.
Et tu Blues Clues?
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostI'm hearing that part of this is a "privacy concern".
This doesn't really make sense to me. After all, in the situations we are talking about, it's not that the kid is confiding in secret to the school, it's enabling the kid to live a double life. At school they are out, proud, etc. They are IN public, expressing themselves at school, being called by their "preferred name" and "preferred pronouns" by the teachers in front of all the other students, etc.
That's not private.Last edited by RumTumTugger; 01-25-2023, 07:41 PM.
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