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  • Originally posted by eider View Post

    ....at which point the idea is dead. Such communism is not socialism at all. Many humans just can't help but grasp to status, power, riches....etc.

    So we have democracies where the people can choose...... but I know of extreme Rightists who call these democracies 'commies' and 'leftists' because they seek to care for all the people..
    The problem is that every country that has tried actual socialism has ended up as a totalitarian state.

    "The goal of socialism is communism." - Vladimir Lenin

    The only logical conclusion is that socialism leads to an authoritarian state where the elite have all the riches and power while the people suffer in poverty. In contrast, democratic capitalist countries have the richest middle class and highest standard of living and personal freedom. I

    Why haven't you moved to a socialist country if they are so great?

    I think you are simply confusing a capitalist country with social programs with socialism. They are not the same thing. The social programs in countries like the UK are paid for by capitalism.

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    • Originally posted by eider View Post

      I wonder why he went to an abortion centre to pray for his son?
      Here is the video:



      Note: he said he was "silently praying" and the police officer makes it clear that is why he was in violation of the PSPO. It was not because he "refused to leave" or "because he was a known protestor who has caused problems in the past" or any of the other excuses you kept claiming when talking about the women in the first case.

      This time it is clear that even praying in your head is a violation of the PSPO. How is that not the literal Thought Police, eider? That is not a rhetorical question. Please answer.


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      • Originally posted by eider View Post
        So you lie to the right of fascism as well...... Wow!
        How about Nazism, do you lie to the right of nazism?
        Nazism is a form of Fascism which itself is nothing but Socialism combined with Nationalism as we can see by the person who founded it. Therefore anyone to the right of Socialism will therefore also be to the right of Fascism, Nazism as well as Communism.

        I'm always still in trouble again

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        • Originally posted by seer View Post

          So when I point out the fascism of the left you accuse me of fascism?
          No! A question is no accusation. Come on!
          asked if your political position lies to the right of fascism..... well does it or not?
          How about Nazism?

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          • Originally posted by seer View Post
            So let me get this right, in the UK you can be arrested for silent prayer but it is OK to call for the murder of TERFs?
            You read Fox News? Rely on it much? OK.....
            Did you believe all those Q-Anon tales?

            My very first post on this thread wrote that if this woman had crawled in to that area in a Mr Snowman outfit she would have been arrested.
            She has been involved in previous incidents, was known to police.
            The police already wanted gto question her about other incidents.

            If you have a issue with anything that Rowlings said or did then write to her.

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            • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

              The problem is that every country that has tried actual socialism has ended up as a totalitarian state.
              True.......... Ain't huiman nature sweet?

              "The goal of socialism is communism." - Vladimir Lenin

              The only logical conclusion is that socialism leads to an authoritarian state where the elite have all the riches and power while the people suffer in poverty. In contrast, democratic capitalist countries have the richest middle class and highest standard of living and personal freedom. I

              Why haven't you moved to a socialist country if they are so great?

              I think you are simply confusing a capitalist country with social programs with socialism. They are not the same thing. The social programs in countries like the UK are paid for by capitalism.
              I don't want to live in a communist country, I like living in a democracy, but some of the members think the UK is a leftist country....even the ruling Conservative party.!!!
              We're all leftists and commies, or so I've been told!

              Some of the members have pointed out that their political opinions lay to the right of fascism as well as communism, so let me ask you...

              Do your political views lay to the right of fascism? Yes? No?
              What about Nazism?

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              • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                Here is the video:



                Note: he said he was "silently praying" and the police officer makes it clear that is why he was in violation of the PSPO. It was not because he "refused to leave" or "because he was a known protestor who has caused problems in the past" or any of the other excuses you kept claiming when talking about the women in the first case.

                This time it is clear that even praying in your head is a violation of the PSPO. How is that not the literal Thought Police, eider? That is not a rhetorical question. Please answer.
                That Constable confronted the man because praying outside abortion clinics is banned. That's what she said.

                I wrote: 'I wonder what he went to an abortion centre to pray for his son? '
                Last edited by eider; 01-24-2023, 01:04 AM.

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                • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  Nazism is a form of Fascism which itself is nothing but Socialism combined with Nationalism as we can see by the person who founded it. Therefore anyone to the right of Socialism will therefore also be to the right of Fascism, Nazism as well as Communism.
                  So your political beliefs lay to the right of Nazism? Yes? No?

                  Wow! How far to the right do you think you are?


                  The right needs to stop falsely claiming that the Nazis were ...

                  http://www.csun.edu › NazismSocialism
                  For several years, the right wing has been equating nazism, the left, and socialism. This is standard propaganda for Fox News and the Tea Party which both ...
                  Were the Nazis Socialists? - Encyclopedia Britannica

                  https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org › content › article › the...
                  25 Jun 2020 — The National Socialist German Worker's Party, also known as the Nazi Party, was the far-right racist and antisemitic political party led by ...
                  Last edited by eider; 01-24-2023, 01:08 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by eider View Post

                    You read Fox News? Rely on it much? OK.....
                    Did you believe all those Q-Anon tales?

                    My very first post on this thread wrote that if this woman had crawled in to that area in a Mr Snowman outfit she would have been arrested.
                    She has been involved in previous incidents, was known to police.
                    The police already wanted gto question her about other incidents.

                    If you have a issue with anything that Rowlings said or did then write to her.
                    What the hell are you talking about?
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • Originally posted by eider View Post

                      No! A question is no accusation. Come on!
                      asked if your political position lies to the right of fascism..... well does it or not?
                      How about Nazism?
                      If you define them as socialistic then yes...
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • Originally posted by eider View Post
                        True.......... Ain't huiman nature sweet?



                        I don't want to live in a communist country, I like living in a democracy, but some of the members think the UK is a leftist country....even the ruling Conservative party.!!!
                        We're all leftists and commies, or so I've been told!

                        Some of the members have pointed out that their political opinions lay to the right of fascism as well as communism, so let me ask you...

                        Do your political views lay to the right of fascism? Yes? No?
                        What about Nazism?
                        As I already said, Fascism and Nazism as you are using the terms isn't left or right. What you mean by "Fascism" and "Nazism" is "Authoritarianism" or "Totalitarianism" correct? That can be either left or right.

                        Actual Fascists and Nazis were Authoritarian Left though. National Socialists. As I also already showed you. Mussolini was a Socialist who started the Fascist party.


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                        • Originally posted by eider View Post

                          That Constable confronted the man because praying outside abortion clinics is banned. That's what she said.

                          I wrote: 'I wonder what he went to an abortion centre to pray for his son? '
                          He said he was praying in his head (thinking). Therefore they have outlawed certain thoughts in that area. That is literally the Thought Police. Thanks for admitting it, finally.

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                          • Originally posted by seer View Post

                            If you define them as socialistic then yes...
                            Nazis and Fascists are defined by much of the Western World as far right extremist nationalistic racists.
                            If your political position lies to the right of those two then you could be perceived to be very very 'Rightist'.

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                            • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                              As I already said, Fascism and Nazism as you are using the terms isn't left or right. What you mean by "Fascism" and "Nazism" is "Authoritarianism" or "Totalitarianism" correct? That can be either left or right.

                              Actual Fascists and Nazis were Authoritarian Left though. National Socialists. As I also already showed you. Mussolini was a Socialist who started the Fascist party.
                              A majority in the Western World define Fascism and Nazism as extreme far right groups.
                              You clearly don't.

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                              • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                                He said he was praying in his head (thinking). Therefore they have outlawed certain thoughts in that area. That is literally the Thought Police. Thanks for admitting it, finally.
                                Wow, that Constable belongs in the Thought Police? Imagine that, us here living in some kind of 1984 world, you mean? How scary.

                                You like to read me admittances so try this one....... finally.....you've cornered me! :-
                                That Constable would love to be in a position to carry out that duty again, imo.
                                All she had to ask was 'But why here?', which was what the Constable in Birmingham asked, and she would have gained much stronger reasons.
                                By the way, what happened to the man? The video shows neither the beginning nor end of that encounter. What happened to him?
                                What did our 'thought police' do to him?

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