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    Social Emotional Learning has been called the latest revision of CRT in our public schools.
    Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know --- CRT is a college level thing that is not taught in our public schools (though it actually was).

    In our school district, CRT was rebranded "Panorama", and now there are accusations it has morphed into SEL.
    At our school board meeting earlier this month, I challenged the teaching of SEL, and nobody disputed it is being utilized.
    They'd have a hard time, of course, because it's listed on their website as part of their "Innovation Education".

    Then a good friend of mine - a fellow conservative - told me very politely that I was wrong about SEL, that it's a GOOD thing.
    Since I value his opinion, I'm fully open to hearing "the other side".

    I immediately started Googling, and it appears that most Conservative sources see it as "of the debol", while most liberal sites see it as quite virtuous.

    I need to work through this, so thoughtful insight is desired, but no rancor or hard coded rhetoric, please.

    (I'm going to politely request that H_A stay out of this one for a number of reasons)
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    It seems Panorama has been involved with data collection on students:

    https://www.realcleareducation.com/a...al_110659.html

    It seems the other co-founder, not listed on the website, is Alexander Newman Tanner who happens to be Merrick Garland's son-in-law.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Social Emotional Learning has been called the latest revision of CRT in our public schools.
      Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know --- CRT is a college level thing that is not taught in our public schools (though it actually was).

      In our school district, CRT was rebranded "Panorama", and now there are accusations it has morphed into SEL.
      At our school board meeting earlier this month, I challenged the teaching of SEL, and nobody disputed it is being utilized.
      They'd have a hard time, of course, because it's listed on their website as part of their "Innovation Education".

      Then a good friend of mine - a fellow conservative - told me very politely that I was wrong about SEL, that it's a GOOD thing.
      Since I value his opinion, I'm fully open to hearing "the other side".

      I immediately started Googling, and it appears that most Conservative sources see it as "of the debol", while most liberal sites see it as quite virtuous.

      I need to work through this, so thoughtful insight is desired, but no rancor or hard coded rhetoric, please.

      (I'm going to politely request that H_A stay out of this one for a number of reasons)
      It is hard to know, I would have to see the actual curriculum. You need to read what is actually being taught - titles like CRT and SEL don't tell you much. Our local district was going to initiate a diversity and equity curriculum. I got ahold of the actual text, and posted it on our local Facebook pages - there was a lot of parental push back, it went down in flames.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by seer View Post

        It is hard to know, I would have to see the actual curriculum. You need to read what is actually being taught - titles like CRT and SEL don't tell you much. Our local district was going to initiate a diversity and equity curriculum. I got ahold of the actual text, and posted it on our local Facebook pages - there was a lot of parental push back, it went down in flames.
        Yeah, but I'd add you need the teachers edition, because that contains additional material that can shape how the student text is taught.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

          Yeah, but I'd add you need the teachers edition, because that contains additional material that can shape how the student text is taught.
          And that's part of the problem, Jim - zero transparency. I have seen accounts of teachers who have quit over what they were asked to teach, but they don't seem to shed any light on what, exactly, the offensive material was.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
            It seems Panorama has been involved with data collection on students:

            https://www.realcleareducation.com/a...al_110659.html

            It seems the other co-founder, not listed on the website, is Alexander Newman Tanner who happens to be Merrick Garland's son-in-law.
            Interesting.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by seer View Post

              It is hard to know, I would have to see the actual curriculum. You need to read what is actually being taught - titles like CRT and SEL don't tell you much. Our local district was going to initiate a diversity and equity curriculum. I got ahold of the actual text, and posted it on our local Facebook pages - there was a lot of parental push back, it went down in flames.
              "Equity" is a dead giveaway that it's a socialist program, and quite problematic.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                The name is a sign of how emotions have become the all-important factor in society.
                "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                  The name is a sign of how emotions have become the all-important factor in society.
                  True, but the way they're trying to sell this now is that the students have been severely impacted by the COVID shutdown they enacted, so they have to soothe their little feelings or something.

                  The way some of them describe it, they almost sound like the old explanation for Marine Boot Camp --- "we have to tear them down to nothing so we can build them up to what they need to be".
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                    Yeah, but I'd add you need the teachers edition, because that contains additional material that can shape how the student text is taught.
                    Actually, the more I read up on this, you need the teachers' INSTRUCTION edition --- who is teaching the teachers to be the counselors they were never qualified to be.

                    (I'll expound on this some more in a bit - reading an article on this as we speak)
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      never heard of SEL, what does it teach regarding racism and wokeness?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        never heard of SEL, what does it teach regarding racism and wokeness?
                        That's just it - it depends on who you ask. And, just last night, I got "schooled" on the notion that SEL is simply "the lens" through which topics like CRT and Wokeness is taught.

                        We have filed a request with the school board for copies of the teaching material related thereto. I doubt they will respond.
                        Which will add fuel to our campaign to replace 4 of the 7 members when the School Board election is held in May.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                          The name is a sign of how emotions have become the all-important factor in society.
                          Expanding my thought, it is a sign of how health has become the driving force for forcing change. Look at how many things like crime, climate change, etc. that weren't view as health crisis a few years back are now health issues. Crime will be solved if we cure people's mental health issues. Never hear anything about what to do with people who don't want to change. (The old joke: how many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb? Only one but the lightbulb has to want to be changed.) Also, the person having a mental health issue becomes a reason to excuse their crime.

                          Health has its place but it's only part of life.
                          "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                          "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                            Expanding my thought, it is a sign of how health has become the driving force for forcing change. Look at how many things like crime, climate change, etc. that weren't view as health crisis a few years back are now health issues. Crime will be solved if we cure people's mental health issues. Never hear anything about what to do with people who don't want to change. (The old joke: how many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb? Only one but the lightbulb has to want to be changed.) Also, the person having a mental health issue becomes a reason to excuse their crime.

                            Health has its place but it's only part of life.
                            Yes, sir -- when my momma applied the board of education to my seat of learning, I don't think she was overly concerned about how I felt about it.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                              Expanding my thought, it is a sign of how health has become the driving force for forcing change. Look at how many things like crime, climate change, etc. that weren't view as health crisis a few years back are now health issues. Crime will be solved if we cure people's mental health issues. Never hear anything about what to do with people who don't want to change. (The old joke: how many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb? Only one but the lightbulb has to want to be changed.) Also, the person having a mental health issue becomes a reason to excuse their crime.

                              Health has its place but it's only part of life.
                              And, since the left doesn't believe in moral absolutes, I guess the feelingometer has to be utilized.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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