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    Texas Town to Ban Christians From Christmas Parade

    Alert: Christians Banned from Christmas Parade in the City of Taylor

    The war on Christmas has started. Tomorrow, the city council of Taylor, Texas will meet to take action on a 300-page agenda. Buried in this massive document is Agenda Item 13 (pgs. 266-270), a new policy that disqualifies and essentially bans Christians from being a part of city-sponsored events including Christmas parades. Also, if a church or Christian nonprofit wants to participate in a special city event they will be forced by the government to adopt a dangerous and controversial LGBT sexual orientation and gender identity policy that is not even recognized in state law.

    The language of the egregious policy says “Examples of requests that are typically deemed ineligible include…individuals, organizations…who….represent religions…” The city council plans to vote on this tomorrow.


    Since this is a past event (Dec 8) I didn't post the call to action that will be well after the fact.

    In wake of holiday parade controversy, Taylor council to vote on new special events policy

    The policy would exclude sponsorship approval for events with discriminatory beliefs.

    AUSTIN, Texas — The Taylor City Council on Thursday discussed new policy regarding special event qualifications, and one local activist group is not pleased with the potential updates.

    Up for discussion was Agenda Item #13, approving new guidelines regarding requesting City co-sponsorship of special events, which includes financial support and services for such events.

    The guidelines include the establishing of a Special Events Co-Sponsorship Committee that will help facilitate and approve requests. The committee will help make sure groups are abiding by the newly established guidelines and that they fit set criteria, such as:
    • Must be a non-profit Texas corporation, federally tax-exempt under the Internal Revenue Code (501 (c) 3) or public agency;
    • Must demonstrate corporate good standing with the state of Texas at the time of application;
    • The applicant must be based in the City of Taylor and hold the event for which support is requested in the City of Taylor;
    • Must have programming, administrative practices and board membership that does not discriminate based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, citizenship, familial, disability, or veteran status;
    • If previously sponsored, applicant must have successfully fulfilled all prior contracts;
    • The applicant cannot represent a for-profit enterprise.

    The discussion comes after recent controversy surrounding the Taylor holiday parade. The City of Taylor recently decided to host its own separate parade after certain groups were left out of this year's Taylor Area Ministerial Alliance parade.

    Last month, KVUE learned that members of Taylor Pride were excluded from the 2022 parade due to new verbiage in the application that prohibits floats that contradict with the alliance's biblical and family values.

    Taylor Pride reported that it did participate in the parade last year, however, when the ministerial alliance learned that there were drag performers on their float, things changed. The alliance stated on Facebook that the Pride float was not in line with its beliefs.

    "We had two drag queens on our float last year," said Denise Rodgers, Taylor Pride co-founder, last month. "Very appropriately dressed and very appropriately performing. Very age-appropriate and family-friendly drag queens in general."



    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Oh, oh. Your state is turning blue.
    "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

    "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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    • #3
      And here they are...


      council.jpg



      Funny, that's a pretty small City Council.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Texas Town to Ban Christians From Christmas Parade

        Alert: Christians Banned from Christmas Parade in the City of Taylor

        The war on Christmas has started. Tomorrow, the city council of Taylor, Texas will meet to take action on a 300-page agenda. Buried in this massive document is Agenda Item 13 (pgs. 266-270), a new policy that disqualifies and essentially bans Christians from being a part of city-sponsored events including Christmas parades. Also, if a church or Christian nonprofit wants to participate in a special city event they will be forced by the government to adopt a dangerous and controversial LGBT sexual orientation and gender identity policy that is not even recognized in state law.

        The language of the egregious policy says “Examples of requests that are typically deemed ineligible include…individuals, organizations…who….represent religions…” The city council plans to vote on this tomorrow.


        Since this is a past event (Dec 8) I didn't post the call to action that will be well after the fact.

        In wake of holiday parade controversy, Taylor council to vote on new special events policy

        The policy would exclude sponsorship approval for events with discriminatory beliefs.

        AUSTIN, Texas — The Taylor City Council on Thursday discussed new policy regarding special event qualifications, and one local activist group is not pleased with the potential updates.

        Up for discussion was Agenda Item #13, approving new guidelines regarding requesting City co-sponsorship of special events, which includes financial support and services for such events.

        The guidelines include the establishing of a Special Events Co-Sponsorship Committee that will help facilitate and approve requests. The committee will help make sure groups are abiding by the newly established guidelines and that they fit set criteria, such as:
        • Must be a non-profit Texas corporation, federally tax-exempt under the Internal Revenue Code (501 (c) 3) or public agency;
        • Must demonstrate corporate good standing with the state of Texas at the time of application;
        • The applicant must be based in the City of Taylor and hold the event for which support is requested in the City of Taylor;
        • Must have programming, administrative practices and board membership that does not discriminate based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, citizenship, familial, disability, or veteran status;
        • If previously sponsored, applicant must have successfully fulfilled all prior contracts;
        • The applicant cannot represent a for-profit enterprise.

        The discussion comes after recent controversy surrounding the Taylor holiday parade. The City of Taylor recently decided to host its own separate parade after certain groups were left out of this year's Taylor Area Ministerial Alliance parade.

        Last month, KVUE learned that members of Taylor Pride were excluded from the 2022 parade due to new verbiage in the application that prohibits floats that contradict with the alliance's biblical and family values.

        Taylor Pride reported that it did participate in the parade last year, however, when the ministerial alliance learned that there were drag performers on their float, things changed. The alliance stated on Facebook that the Pride float was not in line with its beliefs.

        "We had two drag queens on our float last year," said Denise Rodgers, Taylor Pride co-founder, last month. "Very appropriately dressed and very appropriately performing. Very age-appropriate and family-friendly drag queens in general."


        It sounds more tit for tat. What they are saying, more or less, is that for the city to sponsor an event, the participants must sign on to the city's secular values, just as the Christian group required participants in its event to sign on to their religious values.

        it's more or less an example of how impossible it is to have any sort of secular moral standard enforced by law and at the same time allow full religious freedom. Where they differ, either the law or the full religious freedom of the individuals must be compromised.

        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • #5
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

          It sounds more tit for tat. What they are saying, more or less, is that for the city to sponsor an event, the participants must sign on to the city's secular values, just as the Christian group required participants in its event to sign on to their religious values.

          it's more or less an example of how impossible it is to have any sort of secular moral standard enforced by law and at the same time allow full religious freedom. Where they differ, either the law or the full religious freedom of the individuals must be compromised.
          So much for "Christ" in Christmas. Yet another attack on Christian values. (but I don't like Christmas parades anyway, so ....)
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ronson View Post
            And here they are...


            council.jpg



            Funny, that's a pretty small City Council.
            It's a small Texas town.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Texas Town to Ban Christians From Christmas Parade

              Alert: Christians Banned from Christmas Parade in the City of Taylor

              The war on Christmas has started. Tomorrow, the city council of Taylor, Texas will meet to take action on a 300-page agenda. Buried in this massive document is Agenda Item 13 (pgs. 266-270), a new policy that disqualifies and essentially bans Christians from being a part of city-sponsored events including Christmas parades. Also, if a church or Christian nonprofit wants to participate in a special city event they will be forced by the government to adopt a dangerous and controversial LGBT sexual orientation and gender identity policy that is not even recognized in state law.

              The language of the egregious policy says “Examples of requests that are typically deemed ineligible include…individuals, organizations…who….represent religions…” The city council plans to vote on this tomorrow.


              Since this is a past event (Dec 8) I didn't post the call to action that will be well after the fact.

              In wake of holiday parade controversy, Taylor council to vote on new special events policy

              The policy would exclude sponsorship approval for events with discriminatory beliefs.

              AUSTIN, Texas — The Taylor City Council on Thursday discussed new policy regarding special event qualifications, and one local activist group is not pleased with the potential updates.

              Up for discussion was Agenda Item #13, approving new guidelines regarding requesting City co-sponsorship of special events, which includes financial support and services for such events.

              The guidelines include the establishing of a Special Events Co-Sponsorship Committee that will help facilitate and approve requests. The committee will help make sure groups are abiding by the newly established guidelines and that they fit set criteria, such as:
              • Must be a non-profit Texas corporation, federally tax-exempt under the Internal Revenue Code (501 (c) 3) or public agency;
              • Must demonstrate corporate good standing with the state of Texas at the time of application;
              • The applicant must be based in the City of Taylor and hold the event for which support is requested in the City of Taylor;
              • Must have programming, administrative practices and board membership that does not discriminate based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, citizenship, familial, disability, or veteran status;
              • If previously sponsored, applicant must have successfully fulfilled all prior contracts;
              • The applicant cannot represent a for-profit enterprise.

              The discussion comes after recent controversy surrounding the Taylor holiday parade. The City of Taylor recently decided to host its own separate parade after certain groups were left out of this year's Taylor Area Ministerial Alliance parade.

              Last month, KVUE learned that members of Taylor Pride were excluded from the 2022 parade due to new verbiage in the application that prohibits floats that contradict with the alliance's biblical and family values.

              Taylor Pride reported that it did participate in the parade last year, however, when the ministerial alliance learned that there were drag performers on their float, things changed. The alliance stated on Facebook that the Pride float was not in line with its beliefs.

              "We had two drag queens on our float last year," said Denise Rodgers, Taylor Pride co-founder, last month. "Very appropriately dressed and very appropriately performing. Very age-appropriate and family-friendly drag queens in general."


              Sounds like it's religions, not just Christianity/Christians.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                Sounds like it's religions, not just Christianity/Christians.
                Interesting.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                  It sounds more tit for tat. What they are saying, more or less, is that for the city to sponsor an event, the participants must sign on to the city's secular values, just as the Christian group required participants in its event to sign on to their religious values.

                  it's more or less an example of how impossible it is to have any sort of secular moral standard enforced by law and at the same time allow full religious freedom. Where they differ, either the law or the full religious freedom of the individuals must be compromised.
                  Perhaps we could start by rejecting the premise that "secular" means anti-Christian.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    So much for "Christ" in Christmas. Yet another attack on Christian values. (but I don't like Christmas parades anyway, so ....)
                    Sounds like the rule applies regardless of which civic event is being sponsored. In the end, I don't see this as a direct attack on Christians as much as it is an attack on what they see as bigotry. This would affect any group that discriminates wrt a specific race, religion, or sexual orientation.

                    In fact, those Christian groups that don't have rules against LGBTQ+ persons would be able to participate. And Muslims who do would not. Likewise the local KKK.
                    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                      Perhaps we could start by rejecting the premise that "secular" means anti-Christian.
                      Perhaps we should start with rejecting the idea Christian means discriminating against LQBTQ+ persons. There are many denominations that don't.
                      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                        Sounds like the rule applies regardless of which civic event is being sponsored. In the end, I don't see this as a direct attack on Christians as much as it is an attack on what they see as bigotry. This would affect any group that discriminates wrt a specific race, religion, or sexual orientation.

                        In fact, those Christian groups that don't have rules against LGBTQ+ persons would be able to participate. And Muslims who do would not. Likewise the local KKK.
                        They would hardly be "Christian", "Muslim", or "KKK" at that point.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                          Perhaps we should start with rejecting the idea Christian means discriminating against LQBTQ+ persons. There are many denominations that don't.
                          When anything short of full support is being denounced as "hate speech" or "discrimination" you can't hold on to any principled interpretation of the Bible. You can't really call such "interpretations" Christian at that point. Just as you can't full endorse fornication under a consistent interpretation of the Bible. The right* has some nasty things they have done regarding LGBTQ+ people, but the left and the LGBTQ+ movement have their own skeletons in the closet. Like Alfred Kinsey and his "research**", John Money and his "research", the previous association with NAMBLA and stuff like "Drag Queen story time" being promoted among other very, very disturbing trends.

                          Maybe if people can realize there is a middle ground between being jackasses(or worse) to LGBTQ+ people and fully supporting them in every possible way this discussion could move forward, but it's looking like some people on both sides are not willing to compromise on their stances.

                          *I think some on this forum are too harsh regarding the issue too.

                          **He is still cited despite the many, many problems with his research outside the fact that he protected pedophiles and took "data" regarding children from them. All in the name of "science" of course.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                            Perhaps we should start with rejecting the idea Christian means discriminating against LQBTQ+ persons. There are many denominations that don't.
                            What do you mean by "discriminating against"?
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                              Sounds like the rule applies regardless of which civic event is being sponsored. In the end, I don't see this as a direct attack on Christians as much as it is an attack on what they see as bigotry. This would affect any group that discriminates wrt a specific race, religion, or sexual orientation.
                              So, in their desire to attack what they see as bigotry, they participate in bigotry themselves.

                              Sounds about right for the left.


                              In fact, those Christian groups that don't have rules against LGBTQ+ persons would be able to participate. And Muslims who do would not. Likewise the local KKK.
                              Those groups who call themselves Christians or Muslims who do not have rules against the alphabet soup are not very faithful Christians or Muslims.



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