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  • 'Don't Believe A Word' - Detransitioned SEAL Says CNN Used Him As Trans Propaganda

    Been seeing more and more people 'detransition' and begin to expose the disturbing inner workings of the Trans propaganda and trans medical push. Sadly I expect we'll be seeing more and more of these stories in the coming years of lives destroyed by the Trans craze.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/do-no...3wPR40cN635Q2s
    ‘Do Not Believe A Word Of It’: Detransitioned Navy SEAL Says CNN Used Him As Trans Propaganda


    Retired Navy SEAL Chris Beck says CNN used him to promote transgenderism during a 2013 interview with host Anderson Cooper.

    Beck, a decorated vet who served as a part of SEAL Team Six, told the world in 2013 on CNN airwaves that he identified as a woman named Kristin Beck.

    “Everything you see on CNN with my face, do not even believe a word of it,” Beck told journalist Robby Starbuck during a two-hour sit-down interview.

    “I take full responsibility,” he continued. “I went on CNN and everything else, and that’s why I’m here right now, I’m trying to correct that.”

    The 56-year-old veteran conceded that his own mistakes and naïveté ultimately led to his personal struggle being used to help the so-called experts further a narrative.

    “I think that, yeah, I was used … I was very naive, I was in a really bad way, and I got taken advantage of. I got propagandized. I got used badly by a lot of people who had knowledge way beyond me. They knew what they were doing. I didn’t.”

    “But I take responsibility for that and that’s why I’m here now,” Beck added, explaining that he was speaking out in the hopes of preventing others from being used in the same way — and preventing the prevailing narrative from influencing more impressionable kids into irreversible actions. “I don’t want this to continue, and I don’t want these kids to get hurt.”

    Beck revealed to Starbuck that after just one meeting at Veterans Affairs (VA) for no longer than an hour he was told he was transgender and offered hormones.

    “I had so much going wrong in my system when I started taking those,” Beck explained, adding, “Some of that was paid for by the VA, and I’m sorry to the American people that I did that.”

    Beck has been off these hormones for seven years now.

    “They used me so well. I just wanna say I’m sorry. I didn’t know what I was doing, and the women out there and all these kids, I’m sorry,” a choked-up Beck later said in the interview. “If they could forgive me not knowing anything — and the experts that knew definitely used that.”

    “I know God will forgive me,” Beck said, adding, “You don’t understand how bad this is. It’s the destruction of family, it’s killing these kids … I’m gonna live with this my whole life. I destroyed my life ten years ago.”

    The veteran said he believes transgenderism is currently “feelings-based” and more about sexuality than it is gender. “Don’t tell me this is not about sex,” he told Starbuck.

    The retired SEAL also took issue with leading figures in the transgender movement, like controversial sex researcher Alfred Kinsey.

    Several of Kinsey’s published works have been the subject of controversy decades after their release, The Daily Wire has previously reported. Two books on human sexual behavior, “Sexual Behavior in the Human Male” (1948) and “Sexual Behavior in the Human Female” (1953), contain data on pre-adolescent orgasms from children as young as two months old. Tables 30 through 34 of the male volume, in particular, have drawn concerns of child abuse. Table 34, titled “Examples of multiple orgasms in pre-adolescent males,” includes the notation, “Duration of stimulation before climax; observations timed with a second hand or stop watch. Ages range from five months of age to adolescence.”

    https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/st...16779633262595
    Video of the interview (long video warning) for those interested: https://rumble.com/v1y4nn2-1.-the-re...hris-beck.html

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    The mistake was thinking CNN was actual news.
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    • #3
      1. Given he's contradicting his previous view, why should we take him at his word now to not take him at his word previously?

      2. The guy is 56 and transitioned when he was 47. That's not a child being 'tricked' into transitioning. That's an adult responsible for their own decisions. And it isn't reasonable to extrapolate this older adult's experiences to that of teenagers.

      3. All medical procedures have a small subset of people who later regret getting them. From the evidence I've seen, e.g. medical journals that assess rates of regret for different procedures, the rate of regret for transgender procedures is substantially lower than that of other medical procedures. The disproportionate focus by Conservatives on the idea of transgender regret, given how rare it seems, speaks to trying to create a moral panic rather than respond to reality.

      4. The amount of adolescents receiving any form of medical intervention in the US is vastly lower than the conservatives tend to assume it is. Puberty blockers are typically the first medical intervention used on adolescents exhibiting transgenderism. Recently on a Joe Rogan podcast, conservative anti-transgender activist Matt Walsh was asked how many adolescents in the US were on puberty blockers, and he gave an answer that was too high by a 1000-fold. In some of the states where conservatives have been trying to pass laws to ban transgender girls competing in girls sports at the high school level, there have been a grand total of zero such transgender girls competing in high school competitions. It's bizarre conservatives spend so much time being so strongly against something so rare.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        1. Given he's contradicting his previous view, why should we take him at his word now to not take him at his word previously?
        Perhaps he has more knowledge and insight than he did back then?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
          1. Given he's contradicting his previous view, why should we take him at his word now to not take him at his word previously?

          2. The guy is 56 and transitioned when he was 47. That's not a child being 'tricked' into transitioning. That's an adult responsible for their own decisions. And it isn't reasonable to extrapolate this older adult's experiences to that of teenagers.

          3. All medical procedures have a small subset of people who later regret getting them. From the evidence I've seen, e.g. medical journals that assess rates of regret for different procedures, the rate of regret for transgender procedures is substantially lower than that of other medical procedures. The disproportionate focus by Conservatives on the idea of transgender regret, given how rare it seems, speaks to trying to create a moral panic rather than respond to reality.

          4. The amount of adolescents receiving any form of medical intervention in the US is vastly lower than the conservatives tend to assume it is. Puberty blockers are typically the first medical intervention used on adolescents exhibiting transgenderism. Recently on a Joe Rogan podcast, conservative anti-transgender activist Matt Walsh was asked how many adolescents in the US were on puberty blockers, and he gave an answer that was too high by a 1000-fold. In some of the states where conservatives have been trying to pass laws to ban transgender girls competing in girls sports at the high school level, there have been a grand total of zero such transgender girls competing in high school competitions. It's bizarre conservatives spend so much time being so strongly against something so rare.
          1) He's simply describing his own personal experience. You can choose to believe him or not.

          2) A person of any age can make mistakes, be manipulated, and be taken advantage of. It's why you hear stories about elderly people getting scammed out of their retirement savings. I image it's even easier when a person is suffering from a mental illness.

          3) Where are you getting your data from? The one study I found says that we don't actually know the percentage of people who regret mutilating their bodies with so-called gender reassignment surgery because "there is high subjectivity in the assessment of regret" and the lack of any sort of clinical standard for diagnosing regret in a mentally ill patient who was subjected to the procedure.

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/

          4) Men putting on dresses and then making a mockery of women's sports by dominating their competitors, and young children being abused through the prescription of puberty blockers are real evils happening throughout the world. When exactly should conservative lawmakers address these serious issues, before they become a problem in their own states, or after?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by seer View Post

            Perhaps he has more knowledge and insight than he did back then?
            And is now speaking from experience

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              And is now speaking from experience
              And the fact that countries that were on the forefront of this movement like Sweden and Finland are seriously cutting back and restricting procedures for children. There are a couple of law suits here in the States from adults who were led down this road when they were children. I hope those suits become common place.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                4. The amount of adolescents receiving any form of medical intervention in the US is vastly lower than the conservatives tend to assume it is.
                The amount of doggy poo in your chocolate chip cookie is far lower than conservatives tend to assume. Eat your cookie.

                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                  The amount of doggy poo in your chocolate chip cookie is far lower than conservatives tend to assume. Eat your cookie.
                  It's ridiculous to claim that we have mutilated a couple of thousand children when it was merely 1990 of them.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    1. Given he's contradicting his previous view, why should we take him at his word now to not take him at his word previously?
                    Because he now has even more lived experience to know that the previous decisions were wrong and harmful. You know, that thing we are told to never ever question with regards to a trans person? Dismissing the lived experience of detransitoners is just as harmful, and likely more so than dismissing it for those who do not decide to try and reverse the process.

                    2. The guy is 56 and transitioned when he was 47. That's not a child being 'tricked' into transitioning. That's an adult responsible for their own decisions. And it isn't reasonable to extrapolate this older adult's experiences to that of teenagers.
                    Actually, it's more important to extrapolate the possibility of being misled, because teenagers brains are not fully developed and have a much higher chance of reckless and impulsive decisions. Oh, and if adults can't be misled like this, then why the major push against things like "misinformation" in adult targeted news and media?

                    3. All medical procedures have a small subset of people who later regret getting them. From the evidence I've seen, e.g. medical journals that assess rates of regret for different procedures, the rate of regret for transgender procedures is substantially lower than that of other medical procedures. The disproportionate focus by Conservatives on the idea of transgender regret, given how rare it seems, speaks to trying to create a moral panic rather than respond to reality.
                    While it is true all medical procedures have those that regret them, that is usually for those in which something goes wrong rather than it going as planned. These procedures are still relatively new, poorly researched, have high complication issues and are now more easily available than ever. Given the fact that detransitioners are being censored, and harassed often to the point of suicide alongside the immense financial incentive to do these procedures it's not surprising that many of the medical journals don't have much information showing how many of them there are. Many of the studies were also done before the push to start transitioning procedures immediately instead of making sure there isn't an underlying psychological issue that can be addressed otherwise, like past sexual abuse, bullying and more. However since there has been a 4,000% increase in people identifying as "trans", there is also a massive surge in detransitioners, like Cat Cattinson. Due to the increased push to go to more extreme procedures much earlier many people who would never have gone through such procedures if they had been given a chance to grow up normally are having them. Further increasing the amount of people who will be hurt by this system.

                    4. The amount of adolescents receiving any form of medical intervention in the US is vastly lower than the conservatives tend to assume it is. Puberty blockers are typically the first medical intervention used on adolescents exhibiting transgenderism. Recently on a Joe Rogan podcast, conservative anti-transgender activist Matt Walsh was asked how many adolescents in the US were on puberty blockers, and he gave an answer that was too high by a 1000-fold. In some of the states where conservatives have been trying to pass laws to ban transgender girls competing in girls sports at the high school level, there have been a grand total of zero such transgender girls competing in high school competitions. It's bizarre conservatives spend so much time being so strongly against something so rare.
                    The so called "puberty blockers" are the same medications used to chemically castrate pedophiles in prison. You do know that there are many clinics hiding the numbers they have for how many patients they have, and that there are also numerous groups selling such drugs illegally, right? The official numbers are going to be significantly lower than the amount of people actually taking these drugs.

                    Oh, and you were saying something about high school trans athletes? It wasn't hard to find your number of 0 to be completely false, and that's just the ones that have been publicized.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

                      It's ridiculous to claim that we have mutilated a couple of thousand children when it was merely 1990 of them.
                      We will be replacing our School Board in May because, among other things, they're calling for onsite counseling services that push this, even though it violates the Texas Constitution.

                      That, and they are "adamantly opposed" to school choice, and are actively lobbying the Texas Legislature to refuse any type of funding for it.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        1. Given he's contradicting his previous view, why should we take him at his word now to not take him at his word previously?

                        Because he's not cosplaying as a female any longer.

                        2. The guy is 56 and transitioned when he was 47. That's not a child being 'tricked' into transitioning. That's an adult responsible for their own decisions. And it isn't reasonable to extrapolate this older adult's experiences to that of teenagers.
                        You've never been in the military in combat, have you? His mental issues/PTSD were exploited. He says so in the article. It is wholly congruent with teenagers who have their mental issues exploited by butchers seeking to make a quick buck.

                        3. All medical procedures have a small subset of people who later regret getting them. From the evidence I've seen, e.g. medical journals that assess rates of regret for different procedures, the rate of regret for transgender procedures is substantially lower than that of other medical procedures. The disproportionate focus by Conservatives on the idea of transgender regret, given how rare it seems, speaks to trying to create a moral panic rather than respond to reality.
                        It's not meant to create a moral panic. It's meant to shine a light on a horrible subset of the medical practice that does not care about regret. They only care about making a buck.

                        4. The amount of adolescents receiving any form of medical intervention in the US is vastly lower than the conservatives tend to assume it is.
                        So what? 1 is too many.

                        Puberty blockers are typically the first medical intervention used on adolescents exhibiting transgenderism. Recently on a Joe Rogan podcast, conservative anti-transgender activist Matt Walsh was asked how many adolescents in the US were on puberty blockers, and he gave an answer that was too high by a 1000-fold.
                        So what? The number increased over 70% from 3 years ago. It is a growing problem that does irreparable harm.

                        In some of the states where conservatives have been trying to pass laws to ban transgender girls competing in girls sports at the high school level, there have been a grand total of zero such transgender girls competing in high school competitions. It's bizarre conservatives spend so much time being so strongly against something so rare.
                        It's happening elsewhere and with the exponential increase of (mis?)diagnoses, it's only a matter of time. This is the latest in the Alphabet Mafia​'s bully campaign of forced capitulation.
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                        • #13
                          We need to be able to distinguish between two possibilities:

                          One bad experience means the whole system is broken
                          or
                          one bad experience is an exception among generally good outcomes.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                            We need to be able to distinguish between two possibilities:

                            One bad experience means the whole system is broken
                            or
                            one bad experience is an exception among generally good outcomes.
                            Yes.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
                              We need to be able to distinguish between two possibilities:

                              One bad experience means the whole system is broken
                              or
                              one bad experience is an exception among generally good outcomes.
                              Of course this says nothing about the morality of the thing. We could have exclusively good outcomes, and transgenderism would still be a lie from the depths of hell.
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                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


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