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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Margret Sanger, a person obviously of little historical importance, did write “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.” Wanting to exterminate the Negro [sic] population does seem like something a Neo-Nazi would advocate.
Black women have been experiencing induced abortions at a rate nearly 4 times that of White women for at least 3 decades, and likely much longer. The impact in years of potential life lost, given abortion’s high incidence and racially skewed distribution, indicates that it is the most demographically consequential occurrence for the minority population.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7436774/
Black women have been experiencing induced abortions at a rate nearly 4 times that of White women for at least 3 decades, and likely much longer. The impact in years of potential life lost, given abortion’s high incidence and racially skewed distribution, indicates that it is the most demographically consequential occurrence for the minority population.
Among the 32 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2016, non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of all abortions (35.0% and 38.0%, respectively), and Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other race category accounted for smaller percentages (18.8% and 8.2%, respectively) (Table 12). Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rate (6.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (109 abortions per 1,000 live births), and non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rate (25.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (401 abortions per 1,000 live births). Data for 2016 also are reported separately by race and by ethnicity (Tables 13 and 14).P1) If , then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Don't forget the CDC:
Among the 32 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2016, non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of all abortions (35.0% and 38.0%, respectively), and Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other race category accounted for smaller percentages (18.8% and 8.2%, respectively) (Table 12). Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rate (6.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (109 abortions per 1,000 live births), and non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rate (25.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (401 abortions per 1,000 live births). Data for 2016 also are reported separately by race and by ethnicity (Tables 13 and 14).
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
So, we can add "ethnic cleansing" to Democratic Party goals, in its unnerving relationship to fascism - and particularly to Naziism.Last edited by shunyadragon; 12-03-2022, 12:21 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Don't forget the CDC:
Among the 32 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2016, non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of all abortions (35.0% and 38.0%, respectively), and Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other race category accounted for smaller percentages (18.8% and 8.2%, respectively) (Table 12). Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rate (6.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (109 abortions per 1,000 live births), and non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rate (25.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (401 abortions per 1,000 live births). Data for 2016 also are reported separately by race and by ethnicity (Tables 13 and 14).
Still failing to respondGlendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
I have stayed within the confines of your source.
Still waiting for you to be consistent in your argument . . .
No! Not as Neo-Nazism is defined. It does not include specifically issues of abortion. If your logic is true therefore . . . By your logic and definition the history of Christianity and the Bible is Neo-Nazi. Too broad to be a subject of this thread.
Still failing to respondGlendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
So you won't concede that your own quote includes ableism?
No where did I state abortion per se is specifically part of Neo-Nazism.
I stated that:
No! Not as Neo-Nazism is defined. It does not include specifically issues of abortion. If your logic is true therefore . . . By your logic and definition the history of Christianity and the Bible is Neo-Nazi. Too broad to be a subject of this thread.
Still failing to respond
If you are truely an agnostic than it would be easy for you to respond honestly and not with a distinct selective Christian bias,Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
No you have not!
In Sanger's letter, what are the "far-reaching reaching results among the colored people"?
Is the disproportionate abortion rate among non-Hispanic black women not racist?
Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Yes you are 'per say' stating abortion is an essential part of Neo-Nazism.
No! Not as Neo-Nazism is defined. It does not include specifically issues of abortion. If your logic is true therefore . . . By your logic and definition the history of Christianity and the Bible is Neo-Nazi. Too broad to be a subject of this thread.
Still failing to respond
If you are truely an agnostic than it would be easy for you to respond honestly and not with a distinct selective Christian bias,Last edited by Diogenes; 12-03-2022, 12:39 PM.P1) If , then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Are you stating that terming a Downs foetus is not ablest?
In Sanger's letter, what are the "far-reaching reaching results among the colored people"?
Is the disproportionate abortion rate among non-Hispanic black women not racist?
I specifically referred to Downs foetuses
You have stated Christianity and the Bible is too broad a subject, which is why I haven't responded.
No! Not as Neo-Nazism is defined. It does not include specifically issues of abortion. If your logic is true therefore . . . By your logic and definition the history of Christianity and the Bible is Neo-Nazi. Too broad to be a subject of this thread.
Still failing to respond
Are you suggesting I'm not a true agnostic?[/QUOTE]
You claim to be an agnostic. If you are not a True agnostic than you are lying.
Are you an agnostic or not?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Absolutely NO!
So the Nazis were ablest when they executed Downs individuals, but if they had the technology to just kill the foetus, it would not have been ablest?
So Black individuals being overrepresented in stats is not racist?
Far too specific for any coherent argument for abortion nor Neo-Nazism.
Neo-Nazism is a global phenomenon, with organized representation in many countries and international networks. It borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including antisemitism, ultranationalism, racism, xenophobia, ableism, homophobia, anti-communism, and creating a "Fourth Reich". Holocaust denial is common in neo-Nazi circles.
Per Wiki (the same source as your Neo-Nazism definition which includes ableism):
Ableism (/ˈeɪbəlɪzəm/; also known as ablism, disablism (British English), anapirophobia, anapirism, and disability discrimination) is discrimination and social prejudice against people with disabilities or who are perceived to be disabled. Ableism characterizes people as defined by their disabilities and inferior to the non-disabled.[1]
Terminating a Downs foetus seems rather discriminatory and prejudicial towards someone with disabilities.
In the old days in Christian cultures Downs babies were executed.
NO! I did not. I stated that abortion and ableism is to broad a topic. You are failing to respond, because you have no out for your selective incoherent argument concerning Nazism or Neo-Nazism technically one and the same. Again . . .
No! Not as Neo-Nazism is defined. It does not include specifically issues of abortion.
You claim to be an agnostic. If you are not a True agnostic than you are lying.
What are the qualifications of being a true agnostic?P1) If , then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
What are the qualifications of being a true agnostic?Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostIn the present Kanye West and Nick Fuentes are self proclaimed Neo-Nazis. Who else in today's political world would be considered Neo-Nazis?
I've certainly seen people refer to them as such, and cite things they say that are claimed to be Neo-Nazi-like. However, I was unable to find any statement by either of them actually saying they were Neo-Nazis, which is required for them to be self-proclaimed.
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