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Desantis revision of Native American history
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Originally posted by seer View Post
I did not say that they spent all their time just slaughtering each other. But they did in fact slaughter each other and steal each others territory. They also practiced slavery. These are facts - and if we stole land from tribe A, tribe A probably stole that land from tribe B, and tribe B from tribe C (look at the Black Hills example). If you go back far enough it is probably all stolen land. So why single out Europeans? It is more a condition of human nature.
This is the one I used to own:
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
I no longer have the book, but IIRC, Lewis & Clark had some interesting observations of Pacific Northwest tribes. Two of them they encountered, back to back, were like night and day. The first impressed them favorably, and later followed their group for miles just to return some shabby blankets that they had forgotten and left behind at their settlement. The next tribe they met were cutthroats. They were so untrustworthy that they camped away from their settlement and posted guards (and they were indeed attacked by them). The details in their journals convinced me that native tribes ran the gamut, as well as the individuals. To lump them all together as the OP intends to do is shortsighted.
This is the one I used to own:
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
I guess the question I have for you is this:
Yes, the US is built on stolen land. Go far enough back, and pretty much ALL land is would be "stolen", so what makes the US's crime special?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
DeStantos is a liar pants on fire, and an arrogant white man from the perspective of the Native Americans, I wish there were a few here that could speak up for them. Nice touch you calling them the demeaning term 'Natives.'
Basically the wars between Indian tribes were not just tribal wars. They had more respect for each other and less wars than the Europeans among themselves. We can go into it more if you wish concerning the tribal nature of the white man and Manifest Destiny, slavery and other issues of how whit man viewed other peoples of the world.
Actually by the time the white Europeans arrived the Native Americans were mostly large regional tribal nations. There were indeed conflicts in history among the Native American Nations, but no they did not spend their time ;just' slaughtering each other.
You and the other posters that make these demeaning baseless accusations need to back it up
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
The fact that DeSantis is a liar pants on fire arrogantly trying to rewrite US history to suit his conservative view.
Yes, the US is built on stolen land. Go far enough back, and pretty much ALL land is would be "stolen", so what makes the US's crime special?
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
I no longer have the book, but IIRC, Lewis & Clark had some interesting observations of Pacific Northwest tribes. Two of them they encountered, back to back, were like night and day. The first impressed them favorably, and later followed their group for miles just to return some shabby blankets that they had forgotten and left behind at their settlement. The next tribe they met were cutthroats. They were so untrustworthy that they camped away from their settlement and posted guards (and they were indeed attacked by them). The details in their journals convinced me that native tribes ran the gamut, as well as the individuals. To lump them all together as the OP intends to do is shortsighted.
This is the one I used to own:
journals.jpg
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
It is the Leftist playbook.
Liar liar pants on fire.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostDeStantos is a liar pants on fire, and an arrogant white man from the perspective of the Native Americans, I wish there were a few here that could speak up for them. Nice touch you calling them the demeaning term 'Natives.'
Basically the wars between Indian tribes were not just tribal wars. They had more respect for each other and less wars than the Europeans among themselves. We can go into it more if you wish concerning the tribal nature of the white man and Manifest Destiny, slavery and other issues of how whit man viewed other peoples of the world.
Actually by the time the white Europeans arrived the Native Americans were mostly large regional tribal nations. There were indeed conflicts in history among the Native American Nations, but no they did not spend their time ;just' slaughtering each other.
You and the other posters that make these demeaning baseless accusations need to back it upSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
I thought it was fascinating that the two most extreme tribes they encountered were relatively right next to each other. I mean, they lived in the same environment and were probably distantly related, so why such a huge difference? All I could figure is that the aggressive tribe may have been in direct competition with another tribe(s) for resources which forced a more combative nature. Curious sociology.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
And the 1619 project tells America's TRU™ history?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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