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Desantis revision of Native American history
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Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
We will have to agree to disagree. I believe the citation by Marshall acknowledges the ownership of the land as Native American Territory regardless of the issue with the State of Georgia, which is the issue in the history of Native American lands that were legally acknowledged as owned and 'territory' of the Native Americans.
Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
We will have to agree to disagree. I believe the citation by Marshall acknowledges the ownership of the land as Native American Territory regardless of the issue with the State of Georgia, which is the issue in the history of Native American lands that were legally acknowledged as owned and 'territory' of the Native Americans.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
"Agree to disagree" is a phrase often abused by the intellectually dishonest who don't want to admit an error.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWhy didn't you say so in the first place? That's not at all the same thing as violating the Supreme Court decision. In any case, Terraceth has pointed out that the "expression was in dicta, do it doesn't really have binding force for other decisions."Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
You pants down mooning bias is showing.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Well, not so much bias but simply pointing out the fact that Terraceth proved you dead wrong, and your only response was to "agree to disagree".Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNothing has been proved either way.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
I referred to the citation by Marshal that the Native American territory was legally acknowledged as theirs before it was stolen.
Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI'd recommend that you stick to subjects in which you're at least marginally competent...
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
And those would be?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
One Big Pig's remark was essentially a suggestion for shuny to stop posting entirely.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYes, that's the quotation (not citation; Marshall wasn't citing anything, which was Terraceth's point) referred to by Terraceth, and which I quoted. I'd recommend that you stick to subjects in which you're at least marginally competent; you're clearly out of your depth here.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
We will have to agree to disagree. I believe the citation by Marshall acknowledges the ownership of the land as Native American Territory regardless of the issue with the State of Georgia, which is the issue in the history of Native American lands that were legally acknowledged as owned and 'territory' of the Native Americans.
Thus the claim you kept making that I took issue with--"in violation of the Supreme Court decision"--is simply not supported by the Supreme Court decision you cited. That's a popular misconception of the decision, granted, but that's not what it said. It wasn't a decision about the Trail of Tears and the one thing it did weigh in on--it asserting certain laws affecting the Native American tribes must be done by the federal government, not the states--is inapplicable to the issue as well.
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