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Colorado Springs LGBT Nightclub Shooting; At Least 5 Dead, 18 Injured

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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Trying to instill the mentality that Fierro demonstrated:

    “It’s the reflex,” said Fierro to the assembled media outside his home on Monday. “Go! Go to the fire. Stop the action. Stop the activity. Don’t let no one get hurt. I tried to bring everybody back.”
    Yes, training and drilling and "getting it right".

    Who's the coach who said ---

    Practice does not make Perfect
    Perfect practice makes perfect
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by Ronson View Post

      That's fine. Again, I am unclear what their motivations were but I'll accept that they primarily wanted to save the lives of the hijacker's target.
      And trying their best to stay alive for their families. But, as we have both said... "DO SOMETHING!"
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

        Yes, training and drilling and "getting it right".

        Who's the coach who said ---

        Practice does not make Perfect
        Perfect practice makes perfect
        Ah yes, Coach Hammerschmidt, back in Junior High.

        The guy who wore that whistle 24/7. Or was he the one who wore shorts even during a blizzard?

        Nope. The one with the whistle -- which Mike Thompson filled with pepper so it flew back in his face when he blew it and he tried to blame us.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

          Ah yes, Coach Hammerschmidt, back in Junior High.

          The guy who wore that whistle 24/7. Or was he the one who wore shorts even during a blizzard?

          Nope. The one with the whistle -- which Mike Thompson filled with pepper so it flew back in his face when he blew it and he tried to blame us.
          Mr. Hartman was the coach who, using only one hand on the paddle, would have you bend over a chair and whoop your butt just right so it lifted your feet off the floor momentarily.

          (Naturally, I've only heard that, haven't experienced it myself. )
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            Sort of like how Omar Mateen, the shooter at the Pulse Club in Orlando, was gay, I'm pretty sure news like this will quickly get buried.
            Link?

            Ive not seen any evidence Mateen was gay.

            I do know he wasn't targeting the nightclub for being gay as he went to various other places first and they had too much security, and he was just gogling "Orlando nightclubs" to find spots to try to shoot

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            • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

              Link?

              Ive not seen any evidence Mateen was gay.

              I do know he wasn't targeting the nightclub for being gay as he went to various other places first and they had too much security, and he was just gogling "Orlando nightclubs" to find spots to try to shoot
              https://www.cbsnews.com/news/orlando...out-univision/

              https://time.com/4369577/orlando-sho...ar-mateen-gay/
              P1) If , then I win.

              P2)

              C) I win.

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              • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                Link?

                Ive not seen any evidence Mateen was gay.

                I do know he wasn't targeting the nightclub for being gay as he went to various other places first and they had too much security, and he was just gogling "Orlando nightclubs" to find spots to try to shoot
                Hard to pull up first hand reports in media at this point, but here is BBC simply mentioning that he used gay dating apps and was said to have been a club regular (see also Witness: Omar Mateen had been at Orlando gay nightclub many times - that should be witnesses since in the first sentence they say there are four and a NYT article said they knew of six). There were also a couple of interviews with the guy he was said to have been involved with, as well as some guy on Telemundo who many think was a hoax. His first wife also said he was gay but didn't offer much in the way of convincing evidence (they were married four months).

                Orlando attack: Gunman's ‘struggle with his true sexuality’ could have made him snap

                I would say it is fair to say that there is good evidence that he was gay or maybe bisexual.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  B) TWO Bronze Stars. Color me impressed. He's been a hero for awhile.
                  This Aldrich guy is doing his best to look pathetic, including his slumped court appearance. He probably thought no one would fight back.

                  aldrich.png

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                  • Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                    This Aldrich guy is doing his best to look pathetic, including his slumped court appearance. He probably thought no one would fight back.

                    aldrich.png
                    They beat the crap out of him!
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • Originally posted by seer View Post

                      They beat the crap out of him!
                      My first thought was Liar Liar - where Jim Carey's character went into the men's room and beat the crap out of himself.

                      Though, I'm no claiming that happened here.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                        Ive not seen any evidence Mateen was gay.
                        At first a whole lot of guys claimed to have been his gay lovers and the media credulously ate it up. It eventually came out it was all BS and that the media had been far too gullible.

                        The final thing I've heard on the topic was that after walking in the door of the nightclub, Mateen had asked why there weren't girls there. He hadn't even realized it was a gay nightclub, he'd just googled to find a nightclub after he decided malls were too well defended.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • Originally posted by seer View Post

                          They beat the crap out of him!
                          Fierro said that after he took the pistol away from the shooter he then used it to beat him with it while screaming "I'm going to smiley bleep.gif kill you!" so I imagine he struck him several times.

                          I have no sympathy for him.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            At first a whole lot of guys claimed to have been his gay lovers and the media credulously ate it up. It eventually came out it was all BS and that the media had been far too gullible.

                            The final thing I've heard on the topic was that after walking in the door of the nightclub, Mateen had asked why there weren't girls there. He hadn't even realized it was a gay nightclub, he'd just googled to find a nightclub after he decided malls were too well defended.
                            You also have at the minimum and possibly more than half a dozen customers saying he was a regular or at least been in the club enough to be recognized. He also checked out gay dating apps and you also had his first wife saying that he was gay

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • There is a lot of new detail in NYT, including this:


                              Mr. Brink, who said he had worked as a pornographic actor and was now a mixed martial arts coach, described himself as religious and a conservative Republican who condemned gun violence. He acknowledged that he had voiced strong disapproval of gay people when the child was younger. Even so, in the interview Mr. Brink expressed sympathy for the families of the victims in the club shooting.
                              Brink is the shooter’s dad. A strange story!
                              “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                              “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                              “not all there” - you know who you are

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                              • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                                There is a lot of new detail in NYT, including this:



                                Brink is the shooter’s dad. A strange story!
                                And pretty much irrelevant.

                                The shooter, who identifies himself as non-binary and who's preferred personal pronouns are they/them and goes by "Mx. Aldrich," hardly followed in his father's foot steps.

                                Since they apparently can't find evidence that he is conservative the NYT is instead seeking to try guilt by association -- his father is conservative -- instead of looking at the evidence provided that the shooter is another violent leftist loon.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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