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  • #31
    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

    Times have changed. ​​​​​​


    The biggest thing biden has done is let the curtain slip.

    Specifically though, I think you are making too much out of the instruction placard. I think its something that has likely been around, but only getting highlighted now because it can be spun to fit the narrative.

    (Yes, conservatives play the narrative game just as much as liberals)
    Let's not overlook how his keepers also have the power to silence him -- something no other president would ever have tolerated from his staff. Do you remember Reagan's angry "I paid for this microphone" during the primary debate? Can you imagine him allowing it?

    ​​​​​​​That isn't so much due to "changing times" as who is in the White House.


    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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    • #32
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      Let's not overlook how his keepers also have the power to silence him -- something no other president would ever have tolerated from his staff. Do you remember Reagan's angry "I paid for this microphone" during the primary debate? Can you imagine him allowing it?

      ​​​​​​​That isn't so much due to "changing times" as who is in the White House.
      I'm talking about the placard.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

        I'm talking about the placard.
        It is just a single piece of a larger picture.



        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #34
          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

          I'm talking about the placard.
          s

          plural

          they seem to be an important component.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

            If Trump was ever handed such instructions, I could see him immediately wadding it up and throwing it in the trash.

            But I also can't imagine Bush or Obama being given note cards that read:

            YOU will walk onto the stage.
            YOU will shake hands with so-and-so.

            YOU will sit in YOUR seat.
            Etc.
            It seems much of the denial is from folks that know something is amiss, but that it's just too creepy to deal with the truth of it. The implications are too frightening.

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            • #36
              About 200k jobs were offshored under Trump.
              Over 500k jobs have been brought back to into the US ('reshored') under Biden.
              He's achieving what Trump pretended to be trying to do and failed at.

              LPOT used to say politics was about 'jobs, jobs, jobs'. I saw some recent research that high unemployment impacts human wellbeing about 12x as much as high inflation. People like having jobs, and it's probably why so many 'rust belt' states went hard towards the Dems in these last midterms.

              During Trump's tenure, total unemployment went up 2%. During Biden's tenure it's down 2.7%.

              One of the recent fairly stunning things Biden did which seems to have flown under the radar was about computer chip manufacturing in China. Trump used to huff and puff about China but his policies were totally ineffective. Biden recently announced that chip manufacturing was a national security issue, and that any Americans working in China for fledgling Chinese chip manufacturing companies had to quit or lose their US citizenship. All Chinese chip manufacturers collapsed overnight as almost their entire workforce resigned. China's now lost its program to start manufacturing computer chips. The Dems seem determined to bring computer chip manufacturing back to the US.

              People also love Biden's strong support for unions. His union-friendly appointees to the National Labor Relations Board have lead to unionizations across the country, including high profile ones in Starbucks and Amazon.

              Yes, people do like Biden's economic policies. He's probably got the most populist economic policies of any US president since the 60s or 70s.

              Last edited by Starlight; 11-19-2022, 08:36 PM.
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                About 200k jobs were blah blah blah
                Pardon me, but your ignorance is showing again.

                The job losses reported under Trump were due to the pandemic shutdown, and the job "gains" under Joe are simply people returning to work. No new jobs have been created since Joe was installed, and the labor force participation rate remains a full percentage point below the pre-pandemic number under Trump (63.4% vs 62.2%). In fact, the current labor force participation rate is actually lower than Obama's lowest (62.4%).

                Screenshot_20221120_114018.jpg
                https://www.bls.gov/charts/employmen...ation-rate.htm

                In February of 2020, the nation had around 152.5 million total nonfarm employees (the highest number ever).Then came the pandemic, which chopped that number down to near 130.5 million.

                We’ve since been creeping back up to where we were before — and creeping more slowly as Biden’s policies took effect. And we’re still not there yet: The latest count is 150.9 million total nonfarm employees.

                So we’re still significantly short of that 152.5 million peak — which means there’s been no job creation, only an anaemic recovery.

                State-level data? Also ugly. The vast majority of US states haven’t recovered their pandemic job losses. New York is missing 454,000 jobs, with New York City missing 283,000. California has a deficit of around 677,000. Both states have unemployment rates well above the national rate.

                Under President Donald Trump, the economy actually did add jobs pre-pandemic. Close to 9 million, in fact, from January 2016 to January 2020.And the median household saw historic wage gains (the 7% annual increase in 2019 was the biggest on record).

                Even if we’re using the idiotic Biden standard for jobs “created” (i.e., COVID-killed jobs returning as the pandemic fades), Trump “created” almost 12 million between April 2020 and December 2020.Biden’s much-touted “creation” of 7.9 million is much less, over much more time.

                “Our economy,” Biden blustered on Friday, “is no longer on the mend — it’s on the move.”

                Pure hot air. The numbers don’t lie. Our jobs picture is improving too slowly and workers are seeing their gains erode daily, with gas, groceries, rent and everything else going through the roof.

                https://nypost.com/2022/04/01/biden-...hats-happened/

                And now that the election is over, a number of tech giants are laying off people by the thousands and announcing hiring freezes in a move that even CNN describes as "alarming" (although being CNN, they still laughably conclude that the economy is in fine shape).

                https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/07/inves...stocks-trading
                Last edited by Mountain Man; 11-20-2022, 10:56 AM.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  No new jobs have been created since Joe was installed
                  Groups that spend their time tracking the onshoring and offshoring of jobs report massive changes under Biden's presidency: Companies have moved from off-shoring jobs under previous presidents to now on-shoring jobs under Biden.

                  labor force participation rate remains a full percentage point below the pre-pandemic number under Trump (63.4% vs 62.2%). In fact, the current labor force participation rate is actually lower than Obama's lowest (62.4%).
                  Labor force participation rate is a poor metric for measuring employment, and it is usually used when Republicans don't want to believe their lying eyes about how good the employment numbers under democratic presidents are.

                  If you want an explanation of why the labor force participation rate has been drifting down over time, the Bureau of Labor and Statistics has published one here. It explains its a combination of:
                  1. Baby Boomers who are close to retirement age choosing to retire early or go part-time for their last few years of work.
                  2. Teenagers choosing to spend more years in education rather than go into the work-force.
                  3. Women choosing to prioritize staying at home and looking after family over full-time jobs.

                  I would say all three of those things are good because in all three cases it demonstrates that the people have financial security sufficient to make those choices for themselves and are not forced to work due to extreme need of money. It isn't that these people can't get jobs - job adverts are currently at an all-time high - it's that they've decided they're financially in a position where they don't need to work and can do something else they would like to do. Frankly, I'm surprised you conservatives aren't cheering with pom-poms at the idea of more women choose to raise families rather than work, even if it lowers your cherished labor force participation rate.

                  although being CNN, they still laughably conclude that the economy is in fine shape
                  I watched a different CNN piece in which they noted current tech layoffs were a tiny fraction of the number of people those same companies had hired a year ago, and that with the job market this record-red-hot that the laid off workers would have absolutely no trouble finding other jobs.

                  It's interesting how you manage to think a record-breaking economy under Biden is bad.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    Pardon me, but your ignorance is showing again.

                    The job losses reported under Trump were due to the pandemic shutdown, and the job "gains" under Joe are simply people returning to work. No new jobs have been created since Joe was installed, and the labor force participation rate remains a full percentage point below the pre-pandemic number under Trump (63.4% vs 62.2%). In fact, the current labor force participation rate is actually lower than Obama's lowest (62.4%).

                    Screenshot_20221120_114018.jpg
                    https://www.bls.gov/charts/employmen...ation-rate.htm

                    In February of 2020, the nation had around 152.5 million total nonfarm employees (the highest number ever).Then came the pandemic, which chopped that number down to near 130.5 million.

                    We’ve since been creeping back up to where we were before — and creeping more slowly as Biden’s policies took effect. And we’re still not there yet: The latest count is 150.9 million total nonfarm employees.

                    So we’re still significantly short of that 152.5 million peak — which means there’s been no job creation, only an anaemic recovery.

                    State-level data? Also ugly. The vast majority of US states haven’t recovered their pandemic job losses. New York is missing 454,000 jobs, with New York City missing 283,000. California has a deficit of around 677,000. Both states have unemployment rates well above the national rate.

                    Under President Donald Trump, the economy actually did add jobs pre-pandemic. Close to 9 million, in fact, from January 2016 to January 2020.And the median household saw historic wage gains (the 7% annual increase in 2019 was the biggest on record).

                    Even if we’re using the idiotic Biden standard for jobs “created” (i.e., COVID-killed jobs returning as the pandemic fades), Trump “created” almost 12 million between April 2020 and December 2020.Biden’s much-touted “creation” of 7.9 million is much less, over much more time.

                    “Our economy,” Biden blustered on Friday, “is no longer on the mend — it’s on the move.”

                    Pure hot air. The numbers don’t lie. Our jobs picture is improving too slowly and workers are seeing their gains erode daily, with gas, groceries, rent and everything else going through the roof.

                    https://nypost.com/2022/04/01/biden-...hats-happened/

                    And now that the election is over, a number of tech giants are laying off people by the thousands and announcing hiring freezes in a move that even CNN describes as "alarming" (although being CNN, they still laughably conclude that the economy is in fine shape).

                    https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/07/inves...stocks-trading
                    If they ever reinstituted poll testing the question should be "do you think that after the government forced businesses to shutdown causing millions to lose their jobs, that when they finally permitted the businesses that survived to re-open that the government created new jobs as people were allowed to return to work?"

                    Those that answer yes are given crayons and a coloring book while the grown ups go vote.

                    Honestly, irl, I haven't met anyone who is so thick as to believe that is the case, but star demonstrates that they do exist.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #40
                      The whole "jobs numbers" seems to constantly change as to what counts and what is reported. People who gave up looking for a job are no longer considered "unemployed".

                      Top 5 Problems With the Unemployment Rate

                      1. Unemployment Doesn’t Account for Discouraged Workers.
                      2. Unemployment Ignores Other Marginally Attached Workers.
                      3. Unemployment Doesn’t Separate Part-Time and Full-Time Workers.
                      4. Unemployment Doesn’t Consider Whether People Have Low-Paying Jobs.
                      5. Unemployment Doesn’t Capture the Long-Term Unemployment Rate.




                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        The whole "jobs numbers" seems to constantly change as to what counts and what is reported. People who gave up looking for a job are no longer considered "unemployed".

                        Top 5 Problems With the Unemployment Rate

                        1. Unemployment Doesn’t Account for Discouraged Workers.
                        2. Unemployment Ignores Other Marginally Attached Workers.
                        3. Unemployment Doesn’t Separate Part-Time and Full-Time Workers.
                        4. Unemployment Doesn’t Consider Whether People Have Low-Paying Jobs.
                        5. Unemployment Doesn’t Capture the Long-Term Unemployment Rate.
                        Under OMB blacks and Hispanics were enjoying record high employment rates and a marked increase in their standard of living. %#@# that racist &$#@%$ smiley fist shake.gif How could anyone let him do such terrible things.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

                        Comment


                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                          Groups that spend their time tracking the onshoring and offshoring of jobs report massive changes under Biden's presidency: Companies have moved from off-shoring jobs under previous presidents to now on-shoring jobs under Biden.

                          Labor force participation rate is a poor metric for measuring employment, and it is usually used when Republicans don't want to believe their lying eyes about how good the employment numbers under democratic presidents are.

                          If you want an explanation of why the labor force participation rate has been drifting down over time, the Bureau of Labor and Statistics has published one here. It explains its a combination of:
                          1. Baby Boomers who are close to retirement age choosing to retire early or go part-time for their last few years of work.
                          2. Teenagers choosing to spend more years in education rather than go into the work-force.
                          3. Women choosing to prioritize staying at home and looking after family over full-time jobs.

                          I would say all three of those things are good because in all three cases it demonstrates that the people have financial security sufficient to make those choices for themselves and are not forced to work due to extreme need of money. It isn't that these people can't get jobs - job adverts are currently at an all-time high - it's that they've decided they're financially in a position where they don't need to work and can do something else they would like to do. Frankly, I'm surprised you conservatives aren't cheering with pom-poms at the idea of more women choose to raise families rather than work, even if it lowers your cherished labor force participation rate.

                          I watched a different CNN piece in which they noted current tech layoffs were a tiny fraction of the number of people those same companies had hired a year ago, and that with the job market this record-red-hot that the laid off workers would have absolutely no trouble finding other jobs.

                          It's interesting how you manage to think a record-breaking economy under Biden is bad.
                          It's funny how for decades, the labor force participation rate was considered a perfectly accurate indicator of the health of the job market until Obama crashed the economy and gave us numbers even lower than Jimmy Carter's, and then suddenly we started hearing, "Oh, well, that doesn't tell the whole story."

                          As for the excuse that the low labor force participation is caused by boomers retiring, it's actually the opposite. They're not retiring in large enough numbers to account for the rock bottom numbers we're seeing under Joe. In fact, many of them are choosing not to retire, partly because they enjoy working, and partly because the economy is in such rotten shape under Joe that they literally can't afford to retire.

                          Baby boomers nearing retirement age don’t want to kick up their feet and relax through their sunset years. Instead, most of them want to continue working, but just fewer hours or in less demanding roles, according to a survey released by Express Employment Professionals staffing agency and Harris Poll.

                          The main reason: many baby boomers are worried about their finances. Nearly two-thirds expressed concern about having enough savings to quit the daily work grind.

                          The majority of employees say they’d be likely to partake in semi-retirement, either by having a flexible work schedule (79 percent), transitioning to a consulting role (66 percent) or working reduced hours with reduced benefits (59 percent). However, only around 1 in 5 (21 percent) say their employer offers semi-retirement.

                          https://www.expresspros.com/Newsroom...-Schedule.aspx


                          As for manufacturing jobs supposedly coming back to the US under Joe, here's what PolitiFact has to say:

                          • Manufacturing jobs have increased under President Joe Biden. But the increase began under his predecessor, Donald Trump, and is because of policies enacted by both of them.
                          • Despite the recent gains, the number of manufacturing jobs has declined by about one-third since 1979, while the workforce as a whole has increased by 57%. Automation and globalization are key reasons why manufacturing now makes up a smaller piece of the jobs pie.
                          • Experts do not expect the U.S. manufacturing employment level to reach its levels from the 1950s to the 1970s, given today’s far different international economic landscape.

                          https://www.politifact.com/article/2...s-closer-look/

                          Even the Washington Post declares the claim "flimsy":

                          The global pandemic that emerged early in 2020 destroyed millions of jobs, though some rehiring began almost immediately. Almost 1.4 million manufacturing jobs were lost from February to April, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, but then 233,000 were regained in May. By the time Biden took office in 2021, the number of manufacturing jobs in February was about 560,000 below the level of a year earlier — meaning more than 800,000 had been regained before Donald Trump left office.

                          The United States finally returned to the pre-pandemic level of manufacturing jobs in June of [2022]. Biden undoubtedly would credit passage of his coronavirus relief package in March 2021 as providing the necessary spark. But major relief packages were also passed under Trump, illustrating why it’s so hard to credit any single president for job gains under his watch.

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...g-jobs-record/


                          And I just can't comprehend the sort of delusional thinking that would lead one to conclude that an industry laying off over 200,000 employees and announcing a hiring freeze suggests a "record-red-hot" job market.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #43
                            Biden Cheat Cards Show Irish Prime Minister, Officials’ Faces And How To Pronounce Their Names

                            President Joe Biden held cheat cards showing Irish officials’ faces and their name pronunciations during their Friday visit to the White House.

                            Photographs showed Biden holding a card with a photograph of Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar that identified who he was and which country he represents, one photograph shows. The sheet further identified the meeting as an “Official Working Visit” and a “Bilateral Meeting with President Biden.”

                            Biden’s cheat card identifies Irish prime minister during his visit to the White House (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)


                            US President Joe Biden shakes hands with Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar during a meeting in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC, on March 15, 2024, ahead of the March 17, St. Patrick’s Day holiday.. (Photo by Jim WATSON / AFP) (Photo by JIM WATSON/AFP via Getty Images)

                            Varadkar traveled to the U.S. along with Irish government press secretary Nick Miller, his chief of staff Brian Murphy, his deputy chief of staff Philip O’Callaghan and Geraldine Byrne Nason, the Irish ambassador to the U.S., according to the New York Post.

                            The president and the Irish prime minister traveled to Capitol Hill for the annual Friends of Ireland luncheon, where they were met by House Speaker Mike Johnson, Democratic Massachusetts Rep. Richard Neal and Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Mike Kelly.

                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #44
                              Taoiseach Leo Varadkar? I think I'd need a cheat sheet as well. Or I'd just call the guy "Leo."

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Biden Cheat Cards Show Irish Prime Minister, Officials’ Faces And How To Pronounce Their Names

                                President Joe Biden held cheat cards showing Irish officials’ faces and their name pronunciations during their Friday visit to the White House.

                                Photographs showed Biden holding a card with a photograph of Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar that identified who he was and which country he represents, one photograph shows. The sheet further identified the meeting as an “Official Working Visit” and a “Bilateral Meeting with President Biden.”

                                Biden’s cheat card identifies Irish prime minister during his visit to the White House (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)


                                US President Joe Biden shakes hands with Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar during a meeting in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC, on March 15, 2024, ahead of the March 17, St. Patrick’s Day holiday.. (Photo by Jim WATSON / AFP) (Photo by JIM WATSON/AFP via Getty Images)

                                Varadkar traveled to the U.S. along with Irish government press secretary Nick Miller, his chief of staff Brian Murphy, his deputy chief of staff Philip O’Callaghan and Geraldine Byrne Nason, the Irish ambassador to the U.S., according to the New York Post.

                                The president and the Irish prime minister traveled to Capitol Hill for the annual Friends of Ireland luncheon, where they were met by House Speaker Mike Johnson, Democratic Massachusetts Rep. Richard Neal and Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Mike Kelly.
                                Given his absolute butchering of names in recent months, I can support him having a cheat sheet for this so he could at least stop inadvertently insulting everyone.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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