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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou are (continuing to) delude yourself if you think that even a significant minority of conservative Christians and Jews would be in favor of the standard Islamic response -- executing gays and lesbians.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-...nsas-rcna52002
And then we need only look at the American Evangelical push in Africa that led to laws for life imprisonment and even death for homosexuals.
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/w.../04uganda.html
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Or not so deluded. This one (a local preacher, nonetheless, so hardly a non-influential person in the area) seemed quite confident in his city in Arkansas to come to a school board meeting and declare loudly that gays deserve death.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-...nsas-rcna52002
And then we need only look at the American Evangelical push in Africa that led to laws for life imprisonment and even death for homosexuals.
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/w.../04uganda.html
“God gave them over to a depraved mind so that they do what they should not be doing,” says a man whom a district spokesperson identified as Cal Paulson, who is referred to as a local preacher in an article by the Log Cabin Democrat newspaper of Conway, the city in which the school district is located. The video was recorded by a person attending the meeting and verified by NBC News.
So, the "Log Cabin Democrat newspaper" "referred to him" as a "local preacher" --- sounds like non-influential person to me, that they don't even identify him as having a church.
In trying to track down anything showing this guy has real influence, I also found "The speaker—a gray-haired man later identified as a local Evangelical Christian preacher named Cal Paulson".
You're thinking maybe he's the pastor of a megachurch, but they can't quite track down what megachurch he pastors?
And, yes, I loudly and clearly condemn his actions.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Interesting that the article you cite says...
“God gave them over to a depraved mind so that they do what they should not be doing,” says a man whom a district spokesperson identified as Cal Paulson, who is referred to as a local preacher in an article by the Log Cabin Democrat newspaper of Conway, the city in which the school district is located. The video was recorded by a person attending the meeting and verified by NBC News.
So, the "Log Cabin Democrat newspaper" "referred to him" as a "local preacher" --- sounds like non-influential person to me, that they don't even identify him as having a church.
In trying to track down anything showing this guy has real influence, I also found "The speaker—a gray-haired man later identified as a local Evangelical Christian preacher named Cal Paulson".
You're thinking maybe he's the pastor of a megachurch, but they can't quite track down what megachurch he pastors?
And, yes, I loudly and clearly condemn his actions.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Interesting that the article you cite says...
“God gave them over to a depraved mind so that they do what they should not be doing,” says a man whom a district spokesperson identified as Cal Paulson, who is referred to as a local preacher in an article by the Log Cabin Democrat newspaper of Conway, the city in which the school district is located. The video was recorded by a person attending the meeting and verified by NBC News.
So, the "Log Cabin Democrat newspaper" "referred to him" as a "local preacher" --- sounds like non-influential person to me, that they don't even identify him as having a church.
In trying to track down anything showing this guy has real influence, I also found "The speaker—a gray-haired man later identified as a local Evangelical Christian preacher named Cal Paulson".
You're thinking maybe he's the pastor of a megachurch, but they can't quite track down what megachurch he pastors?
And, yes, I loudly and clearly condemn his actions.
The patron comments section of the meeting began with Cal Paulson, a local preacher. Paulson spoke in favor of the policies and described how he believes God loves all but doesn’t approve of LGBTQ+ practices or moral standards.
“I would like to say that the LGBT community has suppressed the truth about God. They seek to bring their judgment against everyone who does not agree with their gender values. They do this in order to get you to support their self-centered lifestyles,” Paulson said.
He went on to say LGBTQ+ community members “do evil,” and said, “But let me remind you that those who do such things deserve death.”
That's not quite the same as your claim that
This one (a local preacher, nonetheless, so hardly a non-influential person in the area) seemed quite confident in his city in Arkansas to come to a school board meeting and declare loudly that gays deserve death.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Interesting strawman.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You're pretending this guy is some kind of major influencer --- put up or shut up.
Come back when you're able to stop being emotional and able to respond rationally instead of with strawmen and misrepresentations.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
I've made no such assertion. Indeed, the only thing I said was: "(a local preacher, nonetheless, so hardly a non-influential person in the area)".
So kindly don't make things up.
Come back when you're able to stop being emotional and able to respond rationally instead of with strawmen and misrepresentations.
Back to that nonsense again!
I can't even find anywhere in any listing in all my church resources where this guy is any kind of pastor at all, or any kind of preacher of note.
The ONLY claims come from LSBQTKSL++++ sources.
And you. You can't back it up, so you resort to that psychotic "you're emotional" crap.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
So, you made a claim you can't back up --- if you're claiming he's "hardly a non-influential person in the area", then you're asserting he has some influence.
Your own words, son.
Back to that nonsense again!
I can't even find anywhere in any listing in all my church resources where this guy is any kind of pastor at all, or any kind of preacher of note.
The ONLY claims come from LSBQTKSL++++ sources.
And you. You can't back it up, so you resort to that psychotic "you're emotional" crap.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostRather, I made a statement that you then tried to twist into me saying something else.
So I have little interest in backing anything up to someone that is so emotional.
Correct, I quoted my words, which are not what you claimed they were.
Calm down.
Calm down, no need to keep getting emotional when Christian behavior is challenged.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Nope -- it's all there in black and white -- you made a claim you couldn't back up.
You're the one who can't stand being challenged, Gondy --- so you go to this goofy "you're emotional" crap.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Yeah, I bet you have no clue whatsoever what this really is.
Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
This cannot possibly be true, because Islam is the religion of peace, preferred by libs over Christianity 100% of the time.
"Ancient tribal standards" would include stances against murder, rape, theft.... but, let's chuck all that because it... well... ancient.
Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
What I believe has nothing to do with the ancient tribal view of Christians and many Islamic countries to outlaw equal rights for the LGBT community, and of course, far worse in most Islamic countries.
The Baha'i Faith does not support secular laws against the LGBT community. It supports legal rights in the world for ALL.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
I still have no idea what your point is."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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