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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Arguing from ignorance. There is no indication that Kim will ever change his basic character and that of North Korea.
Staged Trumpism is alive and well reaching for straws to justify Trump in any way possible.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe level of anti-American internal propaganda was sharply curtailed (typically they claimed things like American soldiers are cannibals with a hankering for North Korean flesh), and I have not seen any indication that has returned to pre-summit levels. We also recovered the remains of several of our people killed during the Korean War.
Had Trump won reelection there is no telling what could have happened. I doubt he could have got them to change much but getting them to be far less of a loose cannon and not lobbing missiles over Japan was not out of the realm of reason.
Staged Trumpism is alive and well reaching for straws to justify Trump in any way possible.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostAnd yet Kim behaved himself while Trump was in office. THERE'S the difference.
Had Trump won reelection there is no telling what could have happened. I doubt he could have got them to change much but getting them to be far less of a loose cannon and not lobbing missiles over Japan was not out of the realm of reason.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
And yet Kim behaved himself while Trump was in office. THERE'S the difference.
https://www.voanews.com/a/east-asia-...p/6174477.html
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
And yet Kim behaved himself while Trump was in office. THERE'S the difference.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Of course things are back to the way they were thanks to Joe "10% for the big guy" Biden.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Unbelievable delusions of the reality of Kim and North Korea.
And yet, here we are with treaties between Israel and Bahrain, UAE, Sudan and Morocco. Go figure.
And the Saudis looked to be on the verge until old Joe stumbled into the White House and did his level best to scuttle the agreements by delaying and canceling parts that we had agreed to.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
The reality is this a delusion and nothing has changed. China still funds and supports North Korea. Our relationship with China has not changed still edgy and problematic.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
Leftists with TDS are the ones who are deluded. Just who do you think put North Korea back on the list of terrorist nations? Trump placed more sanctions on North Korea than previous administrations going back to Bush Sr. He was able to speak softly and carry a big stick, which is quite the opposite of Leftists and Neocons, who love to rattle sabers for no real gains but big risks.
The Soviet Union was most certainly considered a sponsor of terrorism.
You are completely brainwashed.[/QUOTE]
Your Trumpism brain is no brain at all.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
There is an extreme unbelievable difference from Kim and Brezhnev or Gorbachev. There is absolutely no comparison concerning unreal delusions concerning Kim and North Korea. Trump was equally deluded if he believed his efforts to change Kim.
Russia was not considered a rogue nation a 'state sponsor of terrorism,'
as North Korea was and still is classified, and we had diplomatic relations with Russia,
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostTrump's overtures to North Korea were also part of his broader international policy to economically and politically isolate China. By befriending Kim, it removed one of the clubs Xi was using to threaten the rest of the world and keep other nations off balance. Trump took that away, and it changed the balance of the world dramatically.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
I explained the basis. Trump treated Kim like Ford treated Brezhnev, or Reagan treated Gorbachev: which is the leader of an adversarial country. No warlike rhetoric from afar like warmongers like to do, but up close and personal so they can communicate without all the virtue signaling. It isn't meant to make them friends, but to cool down hostilities so both sides aren't sitting on hair triggers while talking smack. I don't expect you to understand because the Military Industrial Complex has too many Americans brainwashed into thinking we must always be confronting someone somewhere.
Russia was not considered a rogue nation a 'state sponsor of terrorism,' as North Korea was and still is classified, and we had diplomatic relations with Russia,Last edited by shunyadragon; 10-04-2022, 08:25 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
No anti-militarism on my part especially concerning Ukraine. No such agreement with me concerning the extreme right and Trumpism which you are representing in spades.
Than what was the basis of the claims that our relationship with Kim would be any different?
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