did cool down for a while, until Buffoon Biden got into the White House. Now Kim is firing missiles again.
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Little Rocket Man had an opportunity to eventually become a friend and possibly a sort of client state. Pompeo made nice presentations of the benefits of being on our good side, rather than being a thorn in our butt-flesh. But, IIRC, Mustache Man shot off his mouth about the goal (meaning HIS goal) was to Khadaficize Kim.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostLittle Rocket Man had an opportunity to eventually become a friend and possibly a sort of client state. Pompeo made nice presentations of the benefits of being on our good side, rather than being a thorn in our butt-flesh. But, IIRC, Mustache Man shot off his mouth about the goal (meaning HIS goal) was to Khadaficize Kim.
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Trump's overtures to North Korea were also part of his broader international policy to economically and politically isolate China. By befriending Kim, it removed one of the clubs Xi was using to threaten the rest of the world and keep other nations off balance. Trump took that away, and it changed the balance of the world dramatically.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
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Originally posted by seanD View PostYou know how warmongering the TDS left has become when their views on foreign policy perfectly match with neoconservatives. It's an amazing thing to watch.
But it is extremely counterproductive - if not down right dangerous - to publicly humiliate an adversary. Especially one that might be somewhat unhinged and has nuclear capabilities. Just another reason these idiots running the show right now have us on the brink of a nuclear war.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostTrump's overtures to North Korea were also part of his broader international policy to economically and politically isolate China. By befriending Kim, it removed one of the clubs Xi was using to threaten the rest of the world and keep other nations off balance. Trump took that away, and it changed the balance of the world dramatically.
71% said "yes." They would rather have any chance of peace between us as North Korea not happen if it meant Trump would get credit.
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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Originally posted by Ronson View Postdid cool down for a while, until Buffoon Biden got into the White House. Now Kim is firing missiles again.
I think Trump did a fairly good job of de-escalating things with NK by meeting with Kim and being friendly. That's just diplomacy.
He gave Kim a way out of the rhetoric that he was ramping up.
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The reality and goals of Kim and North Korea never changed. Kim used Trump in an effort to gain international credibility, which in the long run the tiger never changes its strips. From the North Korean perspective the West and South Korea was, is and always will be enemies. The development of offensive missile weapons has always been Kim's goal, no change.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe reality and goals of Kim and North Korea never changed. Kim used Trump in an effort to gain international credibility, which in the long run the tiger never changes its strips.
From the North Korean perspective the West and South Korea was, is and always will be enemies.
The development of offensive missile weapons has always been Kim's goal, no change.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
The "credibility" mantra is really old and, frankly, dumb. It is used by warmongering neocons and Leftoids alike. One might say they don't want to give credibility to the leader of a coup that just occurred, especially if there is still a resistance going on that might topple it. That would hurt the chances of a rebellion. But the NK regime has been in place for more than 70 years and it's not going anywhere anytime soon. To say "I don't want to give them credibility" is just plain stupid. We recognized the Soviet government, giving them credibility for about the same length of time.
I find that difficult to believe. One could have said the same about the Soviet Union until Gorbachev unwittingly took it off its leash.
But Kim wasn't testing them while he was relaxed. Trump - minus the warmongering rhetoric of typical DC party hacks - put him at ease.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Your devoted Trumpism is overwhelmingly apparent, including your extreme right verbiage toward those that do not share your beliefs.
North Korea and Kim are on the extreme end of the scale of fanatical dictatorships.
Yes, the government would need to change for there to be a change and it most likely it will not.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
It's called "anti-militarism", not Trumpism or "extreme right." The extreme right is in agreement with you. Go ask Lindsay Graham, John Bolton, Nikki Haley or Dick Cheney.
No one said they weren't.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
No anti-militarism on my part especially concerning Ukraine. No such agreement with me concerning the extreme right and Trumpism which you are representing in spades.
Than what was the basis of the claims that our relationship with Kim would be any different?
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