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  • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

    Apart from misquoting what I said, you have not explained why you think they are contradictory. They are just two distinct statements, and you can agree/disagree with either one indepentantly or both. All I am saying is that trust in law enforcemnet is good, corruption in law enforcement is bad.
    Is John Oliver undermining trust in law enforcement here?

    Source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-oliver-police-lies_n_6343d01ee4b0e376dc035cec


    John Oliver called out the media for placing too much trust in police when reporting on crime stories ― leading to a two-word phrase heard frequently on TV news: “police say.”

    “Yeah, 'police say,‘” Oliver said. “It’s a phrase that you constantly hear from the mouths of news reporters. It’s right up there with ‘this just in,’ or ‘back to you,’ or ‘I apologize for the actions I did on Cinco de Mayo.’”

    He said while official police accounts are important to coverage of crime, news reports often simply repeat a police press release.

    And that can turn out to be a huge mistake, he said, for one simple reason.

    “Police lie,” Oliver said bluntly. “And they lie a lot.”

    He recapped some of the stories on “Last Week Tonight” over the years.

    “They lie to get search warrants to conduct raids and to get confessions during interrogations,” he said. “And they even lie under oath, so often in fact here in New York it came to be known as ‘testilying.’”

    That means the word of the police should be treated with “immense skepticism” by the media, he argued. And Oliver had the receipts, with some real-world examples of cops offering what he called “complete horseshit” to the media:

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    • Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

      Is John Oliver undermining trust in law enforcement here?

      Source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-oliver-police-lies_n_6343d01ee4b0e376dc035cec


      John Oliver called out the media for placing too much trust in police when reporting on crime stories ― leading to a two-word phrase heard frequently on TV news: “police say.”

      “Yeah, 'police say,‘” Oliver said. “It’s a phrase that you constantly hear from the mouths of news reporters. It’s right up there with ‘this just in,’ or ‘back to you,’ or ‘I apologize for the actions I did on Cinco de Mayo.’”

      He said while official police accounts are important to coverage of crime, news reports often simply repeat a police press release.

      And that can turn out to be a huge mistake, he said, for one simple reason.

      “Police lie,” Oliver said bluntly. “And they lie a lot.”

      He recapped some of the stories on “Last Week Tonight” over the years.

      “They lie to get search warrants to conduct raids and to get confessions during interrogations,” he said. “And they even lie under oath, so often in fact here in New York it came to be known as ‘testilying.’”

      That means the word of the police should be treated with “immense skepticism” by the media, he argued. And Oliver had the receipts, with some real-world examples of cops offering what he called “complete horseshit” to the media:

      © Copyright Original Source

      If the left were consistent Oliver would be called before a congressional inquest while the FBI rummages through his underwear drawer.

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