Stasi home invasion terrorizes Pro-Life family.

[rogue06]

A 72 year old man gets pushed down after getting into the face of a child.

It is debated whether he suffered any injuries whatsoever.

The 72 year old even gets his civil suit tossed.

Nearly a year later a D.A. sends a SWAT task force out to raid the house and arrest the man who pushed the 72 year old rather than sending Andy and Barney with a warrant like every other time something like this happens.

Yeah. Sounds legit to me.

[Juvenal]

And your link left this out:

On multiple occasions over weeks, a “pro-abortion protestor” allegedly shouted vulgarities and insults at the boy. Houck repeatedly told the protestor not to speak to his son, but the protestor continued to encroach on the boy’s personal space, still spewing vulgarities. Finally, Houck shoved the man away, causing him to fall down. The protestor was not injured, but tried to sue Houck. Though the case was thrown out this summer, it was somehow picked up by the DOJ, Ryan-Marie Houck said.

So they could not even make a civil case against Houck, and it seems that he responded after these pro-death demons kept getting in the face of his son...In any case the raid was way overboard, you know that and I know that.

Responsible news sources regularly decline to publish falsehoods. This is the second time I've spotted you brushing aside injuries to a 70-year old. The first time was with video of the guy bleeding out of one ear after getting knocked to a sidewalk.

This time it's not a cop knocking down a septuagenarian, it's a religious whackjob accosting women going into a clinic to get their birth control and STD testing, and justifying the harassment because a small fraction of them are seeking abortions. Except that's too generous by half. The fact is they do not acknowledge who they're actually harassing.

I've tried hard to get good estimates on the percentage of women going into PP clinics for abortions vs other services, but those numbers aren't broken out. The available numbers suggest it's somewhere between 1 in 8 and 1 in 12, meaning between 7 in 8 and 11 in 12 are being harassed for no defensible reason at all.

In either case, mostly, what they're doing is preventing women from obtaining the most effective abortion-prevention service. Mostly, it makes them look like they're not about preventing abortions at all. Mostly, it makes them look like old men trying to insert themselves into the sex lives of young women, as if those young women were their personal property.

Full disclosure: I've taken, I dunno, call it just under a dozen young women to PP for their abortions ... oh wait, it was actually for birth control ... but then afterwards I took them for their abortions ... oh wait, none of them ever needed an abortion because they had birth control, unlike their friends who didn't get birth control.

Damn near guaranteed I've prevented more abortions than you have, chum, and more than this Houck freak, too, and I did it by supporting Planned Parenthood.

The Daily Wire calls the injured escort a protestor, and treats the actual protestor as a victim. Because it's propaganda, and spinning lies is what they do.

No one but you should be surprised by this.
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According to court documents, the defendant is alleged to have twice assaulted a man because he was a volunteer reproductive health care clinic escort. The charges stem from two separate incidents both on October 13, 2021, which occurred at the Planned Parenthood Elizabeth Blackwell Health Center on Locust Street in Philadelphia, where Houck allegedly assaulted the victim, a 72-year-old man, identified in the Indictment as “B.L.,” because B.L. was a volunteer escort at the reproductive health care clinic. In the first incident, B.L. was attempting to escort two patients exiting the clinic, when the defendant forcefully shoved B.L. to the ground. In the second incident, the defendant verbally confronted B.L. and forcefully shoved B.L. to the ground in front of the Planned Parenthood center, causing injuries to B.L. that required medical attention.

I'm guessing he knocked him down the second time because the old dude could still get up after the first time. Looks like anger issues to me.

People can say whatever they like to the Daily Wire. I figure these folks are already busted and anything else they say needs to be supported by independent evidence. Short of that, I've got no reason to believe they were threatened by any FBI agents, let alone dozens of them or a SWAT team with drawn guns.

Let's see them make those claims in court, where there are consequences.

[Mountain Man]

I'm guessing...

Yes, you are guessing. The fact that the civil case was tossed is significant and gives us good reason to question the accuracy of the report you have glommed onto.

But even in the unlikely event that the account you have related is true, does that justify the DOJ sending an armed brute squad to terrorize a family? No, it does not.

[rogue06]

I've tried hard to get good estimates on the percentage of women going into PP clinics for abortions vs other services, but those numbers aren't broken out. The available numbers suggest it's somewhere between 1 in 8 and 1 in 12, meaning between 7 in 8 and 11 in 12 are being harassed for no defensible reason at all.

The numbers are "hard to get" because PP is very duplicitous about what they claim.

To give you an idea.

B-but they do all sorts of... stuff aside from killing unborn babies. They, um, they... well abortions only account for a tiny fraction of what they do. So there.

Wait. What's that?

Even the reliably liberal Washington Post's "Fact Checker" took PP to task for their claim that abortions only account for 3% of what they do you know the statistic has serious issues.

Planned Parenthood’s ‘three percent’

When all services are counted equally, abortion procedures do account for 3 percent of Planned Parenthood’s total services.

But there are obvious differences between these services. For example, a first trimester abortion can cost up to $1,500, according to the Planned Parenthood Web site. Yet an emergency contraceptive pill costs around $45 and a urine pregnancy test costs around $10 at a pharmacy. An abortion is a different type of procedure than a vasectomy, or testing for sexually transmitted infections or diseases, or a vaccine for human papilloma virus (HPV), and so forth.

While each service is listed separately, many clients received multiple services. A woman may get a pregnancy test, birth control and a pap smear, but she would be counted three times, once for each service, in the annual report.

Those who oppose abortion rights have criticized this definition, saying the 3 percent figure misleads the public. In a recent New York Post op-ed, National Review editor Rich Lowry wrote a series of analogies to argue that the 3 percent figure “is crafted to obscure the reality of Planned Parenthood’s business:”
Such cracked reasoning could be used to obscure the purpose of any organization.

The sponsors of the New York City Marathon could count each small cup of water they hand out (some 2 million cups, compared with 45,000 runners) and say they are mainly in the hydration business.

Or Major League Baseball teams could say that they sell about 20 million hot dogs and play 2,430 games in a season, so baseball is only .012 percent of what they do.

Supporters of Planned Parenthood want to use its health services as leverage to preserve its abortions, as if you can’t get one without the other.

Of course, this is nonsense.

Slate’s Rachael Larimore, the left-leaning online magazine’s conservative senior editor, called this the “most meaningless abortion statistic ever.”

As Larimore put it

Amanda, it’s been so long since I’ve seen a reference to the claim that abortions make up only 3 percent of the services that Planned Parenthood provides that I thought maybe they’d stopped trying. It might not be a technically incorrect number, but it is meaningless—to the point of being downright silly— for several reasons. Not the least of which being that Planned Parenthood “unbundles” all of its services so that a pack of pills, an STD test and an exam are three separate services.

Undoubtedly, some of those services are cheaper than others: To illustrate this, let’s make a comparison with an actual business. Say I open a watch store. I sell lots of those cheap plastic digital ones that you can get at discount stores. And I sell some Timex and Casio, and also some nicer designer watches. But then I also keep a few superexpensive Brightlings and Patek Phillipes in stock. And maybe those only make up 3 percent of my sales. But selling only a handful of fancy watches brings in far more than 3 percent of my REVENUES. And so it is with abortion.

It’s impossible to know how much money Planned Parenthood brings in for abortion. Because as specific as the annual report is about the number of services it provides, it’s far less detailed when talking about where its revenue comes from (They are within their rights, so whatever). But it’s easy to calculate, as the Weekly Standard did, that Planned Parenthood gets at least a third of its clinic income—and more than 10 percent of all its revenue, government funding included—from its abortion procedures.

Ask anyone who runs a for-profit business or nonprofit charity if something that brings in one-third of their revenue is “central” to their endeavor, and the answer is likely to be yes. So yes, abortion is central to what Planned Parenthood does. There ARE a few things that aren’t central to their purpose though. As compared with the nearly 334,000 abortions that Planned Parenthood provided in 2011, 28,674 women received prenatal services. And 2,300 were referred to adoption agencies.

Further, one of the most common talking points used to rationalize continued federal funding (i.e., your tax dollars) of Planned Parenthood is that they provide essential health services for women with mammograms usually being at the top of the list.

Keep this in mind the next time some pro-abortion advocate trots out that falsehood

[Mountain Man]

The numbers are "hard to get" because PP is very duplicitous about what they claim.

To give you an idea.

Also worth noting that a number of services Planned Parenthood claims to provide are actually referrals to other clinics. The primary service PP provides in-house is abortions.

[Gondwanaland]

I think the swat raid (if thats being relayed sccurately by either the family or the DailyWure) was very much overkill and those types of things can end badly and are used far too much by police. Shouldn't have happened and wasn't needed for the charges in question.

I also think this guy appears to deserve the charges especially when the not one but two (which I find interesting wasnt reported by DW) assaults - of a 70 year old dude at that - are taken into account.

Sorry, I'm as against abortion as one can get but perpetrating violence for your political views isn't acceptable. I stopped attending a couple different regular pro-life protests in Colorado and in Missouri after seeing how some of the protestors behaved (similar to this guy).

[Gondwanaland]

Responsible news sources regularly decline to publish falsehoods. This is the second time I've spotted you brushing aside injuries to a 70-year old. The first time was with video of the guy bleeding out of one ear after getting knocked to a sidewalk.

This time it's not a cop knocking down a septuagenarian,

I remember that, a bunch of folks came up with conspiracy theories that he used a stage blood packet to make himself fake-bleed and that he was a "plant", etc..

[Mountain Man]

I think the swat raid (if thats being relayed sccurately by either the family or the DailyWure) was very much overkill and those types of things can end badly and are used far too much by police. Shouldn't have happened and wasn't needed for the charges in question.

I also think this guy appears to deserve the charges especially when the not one but two (which I find interesting wasnt reported by DW) assaults - of a 70 year old dude at that - are taken into account.

Sorry, I'm as against abortion as one can get but perpetrating violence for your political views isn't acceptable. I stopped attending a couple different regular pro-life protests in Colorado and in Missouri after seeing how some of the protestors behaved (similar to this guy).

Honestly, I don't care how old the guy was, I would be very tempted to shove someone away if he repeatedly yelled obscenities in my child's face.

[firstfloor]

I am certain that loyal members of the Nazi party said the same thing about the SS.

The enemy within is not the FBI, it’s you, and it’s the Trumpy GOP, and people like Judge Aileen Cannon.

The New York Times reported that ever since the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection, this type of behavior has been mounting, with election workers, school board officials, librarians and more facing threats and intimidation — just for doing their jobs. Bellicose language contributes to the likelihood that violence will break out, because it makes everyday people feel as though they’re at war. Too many elected officials are fostering those feelings, casting men and women who are doing their duty as aggressors and enemies of the nation. They should instead say what Mr. Garland said, which is the truth: “Every day, they protect the American people from violent crime, terrorism and other threats to their safety. ... They do so at great personal sacrifice and risk to themselves.” Unfortunately, now that risk is even higher.

[Gondwanaland]

Honestly, I don't care how old the guy was, I would be very tempted to shove someone away if he repeatedly yelled obscenities in my child's face.

And that's how you get assault and battery charges.(that's if the story of him yelling at his "kid" is even true - and also ignores the first assault).

[Mountain Man]

The enemy within is not the FBI, it’s you, and it’s the Trumpy GOP, and people like Judge Aileen Cannon.

Did you raise your right arm and yell, "Seig heil!" as you wrote that?

[rogue06]

Did you raise your right arm and yell, "Seig heil!" as you wrote that?

M-must... resist. Must resist. Must resis... Aw, what the heck



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Okay, okay. I'm leaving. No need to throw chairs.

[Mountain Man]

And that's how you get assault and battery charges.(that's if the story of him yelling at his "kid" is even true - and also ignores the first assault).

Yes, I wouldn't actually do it because of the legal ramifications, but the temptation would be mighty powerful. And there's still the fact that the civil case was dropped, which makes me wonder if the prosecutor was concerned that the jury would sympathize with the father.

Reminds me of a story about a father who got a call from his 14 year old daughter saying that a guy at the store had approached her and offered her $100 for sex. The father raced to the store, and after finding his daughter asked if the guy was still around. She pointed him out, and the father walked over and laid the guy out with a punch to the jaw. The father was arrested, of course, but the city prosecutor declined to press charges because he said there wasn't a jury in the country that would render a verdict of guilty.

[rogue06]

Yes, I wouldn't actually do it because of the legal ramifications, but the temptation would be mighty powerful. And there's still the fact that the civil case was dropped, which makes me wonder if the prosecutor was concerned that the jury would sympathize with the father.

Reminds me of a story about a father who got a call from his 14 year old daughter saying that a guy at the store had approached her and offered her $100 for sex. The father raced to the store, and after finding his daughter asked if the guy was still around. She pointed him out, and the father walked over and laid the guy out with a punch to the jaw. The father was arrested, of course, but the city prosecutor declined to press charges because he said there wasn't a jury in the country that would render a verdict of guilty.

I'm sure there would be understanding and sympathetic jurors still willing to convict him. That's how some of these $1 fine penalties arise.

[Gondwanaland]

Yes, I wouldn't actually do it because of the legal ramifications, but the temptation would be mighty powerful. And there's still the fact that the civil case was dropped, which makes me wonder if the prosecutor was concerned that the jury would sympathize with the father.

Reminds me of a story about a father who got a call from his 14 year old daughter saying that a guy at the store had approached her and offered her $100 for sex. The father raced to the store, and after finding his daughter asked if the guy was still around. She pointed him out, and the father walked over and laid the guy out with a punch to the jaw. The father was arrested, of course, but the city prosecutor declined to press charges because he said there wasn't a jury in the country that would render a verdict of guilty.

Certainly. Though again, the fact that there were two different assaults by the same person on the same person..... doesn't look good even if the 70 year old guy was a d-bag.

Certainly not something swat-team worthy though.