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  • #16
    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

    "A bit of skin" - No it removes the majority of your nerve endings, your mucous membranes that protect and keep you frombdeying out, and your sensation.

    I prefer neither, because I don't favor mutilating kids, unlike you.
    Who says I was in favor of circumcision? But point is one is way worse than the other...
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #17
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      And IIRC sold pretty much on sanitary reasons with a "you'll thank us for it later" attitude.

      You know, when I read the OP I figured this was going to be brought up (as well as the ascetics in the early years who castrated themselves), but, and I mean this in all honesty, I was expecting it from H_A.

      I'm sorry if that upsets or annoys you.
      Yeah that's basically how they sell it. And "tradition"/"he should look like his dad so he doesn't get confused"
      "When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing"
      -Trump Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders


      "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
      - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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      • #18
        Originally posted by seer View Post

        Who says I was in favor of circumcision? But point is one is way worse than the other...
        Your response to my original post said all that was needed, snookums.
        "When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing"
        -Trump Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders


        "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
        - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

          Your response to my original post said all that was needed, snookums.
          Snookums? Are you gay?
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #20
            Originally posted by seer View Post

            Snookums? Are you gay?
            No. Are you insecure in your masculinity?
            "When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing"
            -Trump Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders


            "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
            - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

              No. Are you insecure in your masculinity?
              Hey if you are gay, just say so...It seems to be acceptable nowadays...
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                I heard a discussion on Reels where a feminist said women didn't need men. The host said "how are you going to reproduce". The Feminist said "sperm donor". The host was speechless looking at this woman in disbelief...
                Where are they going to get the sperm if there are no men,from Monkeys?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                  It isn't, actually. It contains the majority of the nerve endings in the penis, and removing it drastically decreases natural sensation. Not to mention it's there to literally protect the tip of the penis and keep it from drying out.
                  This is not true. Circumcision doesn't affect fertility, nor is circumcision generally thought to enhance or detract from sexual pleasure for men or their partners.

                  That's not even going into the medical risks of such an operation when it doesnt need to be done at all in the first place. You're opening up potential of a mishap (cut off part of the rest of the penis with it? Etc.), complications of infections, etc. After the surgery of the wound, etc.
                  Millions are performed every year worldwide. The instance ofsevere complications are miniscule.

                  It's no different than the monstrous act of slicing a girls clitoris as many in Africa do (FGM).
                  Patently false. There is no medical benefit to FGM. Circumcision on the other hand...

                  https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-pro...t/pac-20393550

                  Circumcision might have various health benefits, including:
                  Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis. However, boys with uncircumcised penises can be taught to wash regularly beneath the foreskin.

                  Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later.

                  Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.

                  Prevention of penile problems. Occasionally, the foreskin on an uncircumcised penis can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the penis.

                  Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the penis is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men.
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                    This is not true. Circumcision doesn't affect fertility,
                    Strawman.

                    nor is circumcision generally thought to enhance or detract from sexual pleasure for men or their partners.
                    Absurdly false, the removal of the largest concentration of nerves in the penis by very definition detracts from the sexual pleasure of men by the mere fact of the nerves no longer being there. This isn't something that's even debatable without denying basic science.


                    Millions are performed every year worldwide. The instance ofsevere complications are miniscule.
                    Which sounds 'fine' until you're the kid that has to live with the complications because your parents decided to perform an unneeded surgery on you for stupid cultural or traditional or religious reasons.

                    It's mutilation, pure and simple.


                    Patently false. There is no medical benefit to FGM. Circumcision on the other hand...

                    https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-pro...t/pac-20393550

                    Circumcision might have various health benefits, including:
                    Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis. However, boys with uncircumcised penises can be taught to wash regularly beneath the foreskin.

                    Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later.

                    Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.

                    Prevention of penile problems. Occasionally, the foreskin on an uncircumcised penis can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the penis.

                    Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the penis is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men.
                    Wow, golly, boys might have to wash another small part of their body. How could they ever learn such a thing?

                    There's no real statistical difference for STDs nor penile cancer IIRC.
                    "When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing"
                    -Trump Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders


                    "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
                    - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by seer View Post

                      Hey if you are gay, just say so...It seems to be acceptable nowadays...
                      Oh gosh, it looks like that fragile masculinity shattered with that one word. I suggest talking to your therapist for that problem.
                      "When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing"
                      -Trump Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders


                      "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
                      - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                        Oh gosh, it looks like that fragile masculinity shattered with that one word. I suggest talking to your therapist for that problem.
                        My masculinity is well intact, but where I come from men don't talk to other men like that. If it isn't gay, it is rather strange...But if you decide to come out of the closet, we won't think less of you...
                        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                          Strawman.
                          Nope. Just additional contextual information about circumcision.

                          Absurdly false, the removal of the largest concentration of nerves in the penis by very definition detracts from the sexual pleasure of men by the mere fact of the nerves no longer being there. This isn't something that's even debatable without denying basic science.
                          Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4498824/


                          Histological Correlates of Penile Sexual Sensation: Does Circumcision Make a Difference?

                          Guy Cox, MA, DPhil, John N Krieger, MD, and Brian J Morris, DSc, PhD

                          Results


                          We retrieved 41 publications on penile structure. Considered in the light of 12 reporting physiological measurements, our evaluation finds that sexual response is unlikely to involve Meissner’s corpuscles, whose density in the prepuce diminishes at the time of life when male sexual activity is increasing. Free nerve endings also show no correlation with sexual response. Because tactile sensitivity of the glans decreases with sexual arousal, it is unrelated to sexual sensation. Thermal sensitivity seems part of the reward mechanism of intercourse. Vibrational sensitivity is not related to circumcision status. Observations that penile sexual sensation is higher post circumcision are consistent with greater access of genital corpuscles to sexual stimuli after removal of the prepuce. This is based on the distribution of these corpuscles (which are located in the glans) and, in uncircumcised men, the position of the retracted prepuce during intercourse, rather than any change in the number of genital corpuscles. The scientific literature suggests that any sexual effect of circumcised men may depend solely on exposure of the glans and not on the absence of the prepuce.
                          Conclusion


                          Based on histological findings and correlates of sexual function, loss of the prepuce by circumcision would appear to have no adverse effect on sexual pleasure. Our evaluation supports overall findings from physiological measurements and survey data.

                          © Copyright Original Source



                          Which sounds 'fine' until you're the kid that has to live with the complications because your parents decided to perform an unneeded surgery on you for stupid cultural or traditional or religious reasons.

                          It's mutilation, pure and simple.
                          Then so is wart removal, ear piercings, tattoos, etc.


                          Wow, golly, boys might have to wash another small part of their body. How could they ever learn such a thing?

                          There's no real statistical difference for STDs nor penile cancer IIRC.
                          Source: https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-021-10509-1



                          A comparison of the prevalence of sexually transmitted infections among circumcised and uncircumcised adult males in Rustenburg, South Africa: a cross-sectional study
                          Blanchard Mbay Iyemosolo, Tawanda Chivese & Tonya M. Esterhuizen

                          Results
                          A total of 339 participants with a median age of 25 years (IQR 22–29) were included in the study, of whom 116 (34.2%) were circumcised. The overall STIs prevalence was 27.4% (95% CI 22.8 to 32.6%) and was lower in the circumcised participants compared with those who were uncircumcised (15.5% vs 33.6%, respectively, p < 0.001). Both medical (OR 0.57, 95% CI 0.34–0.95, p = 0.030) and traditional circumcision (OR 0.34, 95% CI 0.13–0.86, p = 0.022) were strongly associated with a lower risk of STIs after adjustment for employment and condom use.

                          Conclusion
                          In this high-risk population in a mining town in South Africa, with a relatively high prevalence of STIs, and where one third of males are circumcised, both medical and traditional circumcision appear to be protective against STIs.

                          © Copyright Original Source



                          Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139859/



                          Male circumcision and penile cancer: a systematic review and meta-analysis
                          Natasha L. Larke, corresponding author Sara L. Thomas, Isabel dos Santos Silva, and Helen A. Weiss

                          Conclusions


                          Men circumcised in childhood/adolescence are at substantially reduced risk of invasive penile cancer, and this effect could be mediated partly through an effect on phimosis. Expansion of circumcision services in sub-Saharan Africa as an HIV prevention strategy may additionally reduce penile cancer risk.

                          © Copyright Original Source

                          That's what
                          - She

                          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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