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    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/fo...094629963.html

    A number of food banks in the UK have faced backlash following announcements that they would close on Monday because of the funeral of Queen Elizabeth II.

    The Trussell Trust, a not-for-profit organisation that supports a nationwide network of food banks, has been forced to defend the decisions made independently by a number of its branches.

    The Government announced Monday would be an official bank holiday to allow people across Britain to pay their respects to the Queen.

    The Stoke-on-Trent food bank announced on Tuesday that it would be closing three distribution centres as the nation marks the day of the Queen’s funeral.

    Branches in East Elmbridge, East Grinstead, Grantham, Ringwood and South Sefton were among the others to follow suit.

    The Trussell Trust’s Wimbledon branch has meanwhile made a U-turn, after tweeting on Tuesday morning it would be closed to allow their staff and workers to show their respects.

    Its now deleted tweet said: “Our condolences go out to the Royal family at this sad time.

    “All food bank hubs will be closed on Monday 19th September due to funeral. We will reopen from Tuesday 20th Sept.

    “We do normally close on Bank Holidays and as this is now a bank holiday we have decided to allow our staff and workers the opportunity to show their respects.”

    It has since announced “due to the overwhelming support we have received we now have volunteers to run our Monday session as usual.

    “As a reminder we are not a government service and run solely on people’s donations of time, money and food.”

    Emma Revie, chief executive of the Trussell Trust, said: “Food banks in our network run sessions on different days and at different times.

    “Food banks are best placed to make the right decision for their communities and will ensure everyone who needs support can access it as they do with every bank holiday.

    “As each food bank is an independent charity, we’d encourage people who need support to contact their local food bank to check their opening hours.”


    Isn't it good to know that many British families and of course their children can go to bed hungry next Monday night?



    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

  • #2
    Perhaps they could go pick up food the day before? how do they handle other holidays?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      Perhaps they could go pick up food the day before? how do they handle other holidays?
      Clearly the question posed in the OP went right over your head.
      "It ain't necessarily so
      The things that you're liable
      To read in the Bible
      It ain't necessarily so
      ."

      Sportin' Life
      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

        Clearly the question posed in the OP went right over your head.
        How so?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post

          How so?
          You have to remember, she has a ton of bias, and as such, it prejudices her to put the worst possible spin on anything that is remotely to do with the monarchy as it confirms her preconceived notions.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

            How so?
            That the "Magna Mater" of the United Kingdom would have wanted her people to go hungry simply because she was being buried.

            As to your initial reply, although I have never used a foodbank, I suspect supplies are limited, and issuing everyone with double rations the day before might actually not be feasible.

            This is just another example of the British over-reaction to the death of an immensely privileged, unimaginably wealthy, and very old lady.
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

            Sportin' Life
            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

              That the "Magna Mater" of the United Kingdom would have wanted her people to go hungry simply because she was being buried.

              As to your initial reply, although I have never used a foodbank, I suspect supplies are limited, and issuing everyone with double rations the day before might actually not be feasible.

              This is just another example of the British over-reaction to the death of an immensely privileged, unimaginably wealthy, and very old lady.
              Most food banks in the us that I have experienced (poor growing up), gave out bulk supplies when a family showed up. Bags of beans, blocks of cheese, canned goods, etc. A food bank wasn't a soup kitchen, you didn't show up for a meal, you showed up to supplement your monthly groceries. (You got to go once a month).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                You have to remember, she has a ton of bias, and as such, it prejudices her to put the worst possible spin on anything that is remotely to do with the monarchy as it confirms her preconceived notions.
                Ah but you forget, I am permitted to be highly critical of the descendants of the House of Hanover and the House of Saxe Coburg-Gotha.

                "It ain't necessarily so
                The things that you're liable
                To read in the Bible
                It ain't necessarily so
                ."

                Sportin' Life
                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                  Most food banks in the us that I have experienced (poor growing up), gave out bulk supplies when a family showed up. Bags of beans, blocks of cheese, canned goods, etc. A food bank wasn't a soup kitchen, you didn't show up for a meal, you showed up to supplement your monthly groceries. (You got to go once a month).
                  The USA is not Britain - at least not any more!
                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    The USA is not Britain - at least not any more!
                    No duh. But it's a good starting place.

                    Here is one of the foodbanks from the UK.
                    Source: https://www.trusselltrust.org/get-help/emergency-food/food-parcel/



                    We’ve worked with nutritionists to make sure that the food parcels supplied by food banks in our network contain at least three days’ worth of nutritionally balanced meals for individuals and families. These emergency food parcels are not designed to meet long-term need – that’s why food banks also offer additional support like debt advice where possible.

                    A typical food parcel includes:

                    • Cereal
                    • Soup
                    • Pasta
                    • Rice
                    • Tinned tomatoes/ pasta sauce
                    • Lentils, beans and pulses
                    • Tinned meat
                    • Tinned vegetables
                    • Tea/coffee
                    • Tinned fruit
                    • Biscuits
                    • UHT milk
                    • Fruit juice

                    Food banks will also provide essential non-food items like toiletries and hygiene products where they can.
                    Dietary requirements


                    When visiting a food bank centre, one of the volunteers will run through the food parcel packing list with you to check any special dietary requirements that you may have.

                    If they have the facilities to do so, some food banks can also provide fresh food. Please get in touch with your local foodbank to find out more.



                    If you’re organising a collection for your local food bank, please check with them first to see which items they are currently in need of.

                    © Copyright Original Source

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                      Ah but you forget, I am permitted to be highly critical of the descendants of the House of Hanover and the House of Saxe Coburg-Gotha.
                      I never said that. You are of course allowed to be as petty and irrational in judging any situation based on your prejudices as you like. You are free to dislike Meghan Markle because of her skin color, you are free to dislike jews because of their religion, you are free to hate whoever you wish.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                        https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/fo...094629963.html

                        A number of food banks in the UK have faced backlash following announcements that they would close on Monday because of the funeral of Queen Elizabeth II.

                        The Trussell Trust, a not-for-profit organisation that supports a nationwide network of food banks, has been forced to defend the decisions made independently by a number of its branches.

                        The Government announced Monday would be an official bank holiday to allow people across Britain to pay their respects to the Queen.

                        The Stoke-on-Trent food bank announced on Tuesday that it would be closing three distribution centres as the nation marks the day of the Queen’s funeral.

                        Branches in East Elmbridge, East Grinstead, Grantham, Ringwood and South Sefton were among the others to follow suit.

                        The Trussell Trust’s Wimbledon branch has meanwhile made a U-turn, after tweeting on Tuesday morning it would be closed to allow their staff and workers to show their respects.

                        Its now deleted tweet said: “Our condolences go out to the Royal family at this sad time.

                        “All food bank hubs will be closed on Monday 19th September due to funeral. We will reopen from Tuesday 20th Sept.

                        “We do normally close on Bank Holidays and as this is now a bank holiday we have decided to allow our staff and workers the opportunity to show their respects.”

                        It has since announced “due to the overwhelming support we have received we now have volunteers to run our Monday session as usual.

                        “As a reminder we are not a government service and run solely on people’s donations of time, money and food.”

                        Emma Revie, chief executive of the Trussell Trust, said: “Food banks in our network run sessions on different days and at different times.

                        “Food banks are best placed to make the right decision for their communities and will ensure everyone who needs support can access it as they do with every bank holiday.

                        “As each food bank is an independent charity, we’d encourage people who need support to contact their local food bank to check their opening hours.”


                        Isn't it good to know that many British families and of course their children can go to bed hungry next Monday night?


                        I imagine that this is hardly the only day during the year they close. What about Christmas Day?

                        So I guess folks should plan accordingly.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                          No duh. But it's a good starting place.

                          Here is one of the foodbanks from the UK.
                          Source: https://www.trusselltrust.org/get-help/emergency-food/food-parcel/



                          We’ve worked with nutritionists to make sure that the food parcels supplied by food banks in our network contain at least three days’ worth of nutritionally balanced meals for individuals and families. These emergency food parcels are not designed to meet long-term need – that’s why food banks also offer additional support like debt advice where possible.

                          A typical food parcel includes:

                          • Cereal
                          • Soup
                          • Pasta
                          • Rice
                          • Tinned tomatoes/ pasta sauce
                          • Lentils, beans and pulses
                          • Tinned meat
                          • Tinned vegetables
                          • Tea/coffee
                          • Tinned fruit
                          • Biscuits
                          • UHT milk
                          • Fruit juice

                          Food banks will also provide essential non-food items like toiletries and hygiene products where they can.
                          Dietary requirements


                          When visiting a food bank centre, one of the volunteers will run through the food parcel packing list with you to check any special dietary requirements that you may have.

                          If they have the facilities to do so, some food banks can also provide fresh food. Please get in touch with your local foodbank to find out more.



                          If you’re organising a collection for your local food bank, please check with them first to see which items they are currently in need of.

                          © Copyright Original Source

                          You also have forgotten this.

                          https://uk.news.yahoo.com/food-banks...165804376.html

                          The UK's leading food bank charity has warned of a winter crisis as demand increases but donations drop off amid the worsening cost-of-living crisis.

                          Households across the UK are facing a cost of living nightmare this winter as high inflation and record breaking energy bills eat into household budgets.

                          Energy consultants Cornwall Insight on Tuesday said they expect the energy price cap to increase to 3,358 annually from October, rising again to 3,615 from January, resulting in an average of 3,487 this winter.

                          Elsewhere, inflation is already at its highest in 40 years – and expected to hit 11% by 2023.

                          The Trussell Trust, the UK's leading food bank, has warned that growing pressure on household budgets is leading to fewer people donating supplies.

                          Alarmingly, this coincided with what the charity describes as "soaring need", with the organisation handing out what amounts to 13 food parcels per second in May.

                          Danni Malone, director of network programmes, told Yahoo News UK the organisation is concerned about supplies this winter.

                          "I think the thing that concerns us, as we look out across the winter, is that kind of unprecedented rise in demand coupled with a decrease in donations," said Malone.

                          She said Trussell Trust food banks are seeing customers who cannot afford heating, are unable to afford school uniforms for their children, and are even turning off their fridges to save energy.

                          "Things are definitely getting worse," she added.


                          And from March this year:


                          https://news.sky.com/story/food-bank...-says-12573336

                          Food bank users are turning down potatoes and other root vegetables because soaring fuel costs makes it too expensive to cook them, the boss of a leading UK supermarket chain has said.

                          Speaking before Chancellor Rishi Sunak delivered his spring statement, Iceland's managing director Richard Walker said: "It's incredibly concerning. We're hearing of some food bank users declining potatoes and root veg because they can't afford the energy to boil them."

                          Mr Walker told Today on Radio 4 that the pressure of trying to keep prices down was "relentless".

                          In the statement, the chancellor raised the national insurance threshold by 3,000 and announced a cut in fuel duty tax by 5p a litre.

                          Whilst he offered no new direct action on energy bills, Mr Sunak scrapped VAT on energy efficiency measures such as solar panels, heat pumps and installed insulation for five years.

                          He also doubled the Household Support Fund which helps vulnerable families to 1bn, but Labour criticised him for not doing enough.





                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                            Most food banks in the us that I have experienced (poor growing up), gave out bulk supplies when a family showed up. Bags of beans, blocks of cheese, canned goods, etc. A food bank wasn't a soup kitchen, you didn't show up for a meal, you showed up to supplement your monthly groceries. (You got to go once a month).
                            Yup. You don't show up every day for that day's meal. The one I volunteered for several decades back typically loaded everything up in boxes for ease of transport with people coming in bi-weekly.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                              That the "Magna Mater" of the United Kingdom would have wanted her people to go hungry simply because she was being buried.

                              As to your initial reply, although I have never used a foodbank, I suspect supplies are limited, and issuing everyone with double rations the day before might actually not be feasible.

                              This is just another example of the British over-reaction to the death of an immensely privileged, unimaginably wealthy, and very old lady.
                              As the article says, they regularly close on holidays. So they must have a procedure in place to keep people from starving every holiday. This would be no different.


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