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    Sweden held an election and replaced their government. Instead of center-left government, they've moved to center-right. The parties involved still have to form a government so this could fail yet. It is interesting to note that the anti-immigration party got about 20% of the vote.

    Apparently, the winners campaigned on a law-and-order platform (I wasn't aware of an uptick in gun violence in Sweden) plus anti-immigration. Sounds vaguely familiar.

    I know one article doesn't make me an expert on all things Swedish. I am wondering if Sweden will still be held up as an example to the world and if they'll retain their happiest country in the world title.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/15/righ...n-resigns.html
    "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

    "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

  • #2
    sounds like the entire world is getting tired of liberalism destroying civilization.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
      Sweden held an election and replaced their government. Instead of center-left government, they've moved to center-right. The parties involved still have to form a government so this could fail yet. It is interesting to note that the anti-immigration party got about 20% of the vote.

      Apparently, the winners campaigned on a law-and-order platform (I wasn't aware of an uptick in gun violence in Sweden) plus anti-immigration. Sounds vaguely familiar.

      I know one article doesn't make me an expert on all things Swedish. I am wondering if Sweden will still be held up as an example to the world and if they'll retain their happiest country in the world title.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/15/righ...n-resigns.html
      The way that the rankings are made will be adjusted to make sure that does not take place.

      It looks like Italy is also about to move to the right as well.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
        Sweden held an election and replaced their government. Instead of center-left government, they've moved to center-right. The parties involved still have to form a government so this could fail yet. It is interesting to note that the anti-immigration party got about 20% of the vote.

        Apparently, the winners campaigned on a law-and-order platform (I wasn't aware of an uptick in gun violence in Sweden) plus anti-immigration. Sounds vaguely familiar.

        I know one article doesn't make me an expert on all things Swedish. I am wondering if Sweden will still be held up as an example to the world and if they'll retain their happiest country in the world title.

        https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/15/righ...n-resigns.html
        This seems to be a trend among many democracies with people electing right-wing governments. It does not bode well for the future.
        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • #5
          (I remember Sweden was the only country that didn't lock down during Covid under the advice of Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell).

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          • #6
            If you live in a country where women work, families are unaffordable, and the population is aging, immigration of a young population is essential. You loose purity of race as a result, and some folks don’t like that.
            “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
            “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
            “not all there” - you know who you are

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              I am wondering if Sweden will still be held up as an example to the world and if they'll retain their happiest country in the world title.
              The way that the rankings are made will be adjusted to make sure that does not take place.
              Not sure what you mean by rankings being 'adjusted'. The major survey I am familiar with on happiness just surveys people and asks them to rank their lives on a 1 (terrible) to 10 (perfect) scale and averages that result per country. Other similar surveys will use similar methodologies, so there's no scope to adjust anything. It's not like liberals swoop in and say "we like Sweden's political policies, so it's people are actually happier than they say they are, so we'll just add 1 to their self-reported happiness scores."

              Finland, Denmark and Norway seem to usually be top-3 on these type of surveys. Sweden is usually in the top-10 countries but I don't think it's ever ranked in the top 3.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                This seems to be a trend among many democracies with people electing right-wing governments. It does not bode well for the future.
                I mean how dare they vote for things you don't support.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Not sure what you mean by rankings being 'adjusted'. The major survey I am familiar with on happiness just surveys people and asks them to rank their lives on a 1 (terrible) to 10 (perfect) scale and averages that result per country. Other similar surveys will use similar methodologies, so there's no scope to adjust anything. It's not like liberals swoop in and say "we like Sweden's political policies, so it's people are actually happier than they say they are, so we'll just add 1 to their self-reported happiness scores."

                  Finland, Denmark and Norway seem to usually be top-3 on these type of surveys. Sweden is usually in the top-10 countries but I don't think it's ever ranked in the top 3.
                  Most ranking systems for such things I'm familiar with select certain factors of the location to make the determination which is often the reason such "surveys" don't even make it to the level of a joke.

                  For instance, a few years ago there was one of these studies about healthiest cities in the country. Did they check things like life expectancy to determine that? No. That would be too easy and obvious. Instead they looked to see how many gyms there were per square mile and compared them to the number of drive-through fast food restaurants there were. Obviously such a method could have their results skewed by a myriad of different things.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    This seems to be a trend among many democracies with people electing right-wing governments. It does not bode well for the future.
                    Looking at our country over the last nearly two years, it has been electing a left-wing government that has been very bad for our present and foreseeable future.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Looking at our country over the last nearly two years, it has been electing a left-wing government that has been very bad for our present and foreseeable future.
                      For why?
                      “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                      “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                      “not all there” - you know who you are

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                        For why?
                        Do you want that list in alphabetical, categorical, chronological order or by order of importance?

                        I cannot think of one single thing that they have done that haven't made things worse.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                          If you live in a country where women work, families are unaffordable, and the population is aging, immigration of a young population is essential. You loose purity of race as a result, and some folks don’t like that.
                          I also found it interesting that Jimmie Åkesson comes from a small town [Sölvesborg] and that his party [initially a neo-Nazi party formed in the 1980s] appears to have built its support in rural areas and small towns rather than the larger towns and cities, as historically, other such extreme RW parties have done.

                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Do you want that list in alphabetical, categorical, chronological order or by order of importance?

                            I cannot think of one single thing that they have done that haven't made things worse.
                            Two things that seem most important to you.
                            “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                            “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                            “not all there” - you know who you are

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                              Two things that seem most important to you.
                              How surprising. You got no response.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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