Elizabeth II

[Cow Poke]

I understand even fools and the misguided are allowed to make their views known. Speaker's Corner at Hyde Park on a Sunday morning can be high entertaining.

When I was in Seattle, there was a platform where Muslim men were allowed to angrily yell at the crowd about being infidels - I thought it was amusing, but free speech, indeed.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Apparently not during Elizabeth's funeral.

The suppression of free speech ran for the entire "official mourning" period, and I suspect, in some quarters continues.

As the Brit "village idiot" Nick made clear in his opinion [linked by EvoUK on another thread] X can say Y but A cannot say B.

[rogue06]

The suppression of free speech ran for the entire "official mourning" period, and I suspect, in some quarters continues.

As the Brit "village idiot" Nick made clear in his opinion [linked by EvoUK on another thread] X can say Y but A cannot say B.

Things should be returning to "normal" with the police arresting folks for saying the wrong pronoun rather than not singing praises to the queen.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Things should be returning to "normal" with the police arresting folks for saying the wrong pronoun rather than not singing praises to the queen.

You must have missed the news. Under Truss all that wokeism is going to be censored and controlled.

She also made some unfortunate gaffes that caused offence to British Jews during her leadership campaign.

[Cow Poke]

You must have missed the news. Under Truss all that wokeism is going to be censored and controlled.

She also made some unfortunate gaffes that caused offence to British Jews during her leadership campaign.

"censored and controlled", or simply reined in?

[rogue06]

You must have missed the news. Under Truss all that wokeism is going to be censored and controlled.

She also made some unfortunate gaffes that caused offence to British Jews during her leadership campaign.

I wouldn't recommend holding your breath in anticipation.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

"censored and controlled", or simply reined in?

I would consider being arrested for holding a sign, or shouting out "Who elected him?", or being threatened with arrest by a police officer for holding a blank sheet of paper [if certain words were to be written on it that "may offend someone"] to be an indication of censorship.

What do you think?

[Cow Poke]

I would consider being arrested for holding a sign, or shouting out "Who elected him?", or being threatened with arrest by a police officer for holding a blank sheet of paper [if certain words were to be written on it that "may offend someone"] to be an indication of censorship.

What do you think?

I really don't know enough about this to have an opinion - which is why I was asking.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I really don't know enough about this to have an opinion - which is why I was asking.

Those examples I gave all occurred. So would you consider those individuals were being:

"censored and controlled", or simply reined in?

[Cow Poke]

Those examples I gave all occurred. So would you consider those individuals were being:

"censored and controlled", or simply reined in?

I'd need to see the context, and I really don't care about it that much, so I'll disengage.

[rogue06]

Those examples I gave all occurred. So would you consider those individuals were being:

"censored and controlled", or simply reined in?

I'd go with the former, but that doesn't support your contention that, as you declared, "wokeism is going to be censored and controlled," now does it?

[Cow Poke]

I'd go with the former, but that doesn't support your contention that, as you declared, "wokeism is going to be censored and controlled," now does it?

And that's the question I had --- is "wokeism" going to be censored and controlled, or simply 'reined in'.

[rogue06]

And that's the question I had --- is "wokeism" going to be censored and controlled, or simply 'reined in'.

Looking at the evidence provided by H_A, so far there is no indication of either.

[firstfloor]

‘Woke’ is defined as - alert to injustice and discrimination in society, especially racism:

The anti-woke types are saying, in effect, that when confronted by injustice and discrimination, they will look away. For them, the cries for help are loud and annoying.

[rogue06]

‘Woke’ is defined as - alert to injustice and discrimination in society, especially racism:

The anti-woke types are saying, in effect, that when confronted by injustice and discrimination, they will look away. For them, the cries for help are loud and annoying.

More like how they want to be perceived when in reality they are nothing but virtue signaling scolds usually of the hyper-hypocritical sort like we saw in Martha's Vineyard recently. The ones who really do look away and turn their backs the moment they are given a chance to put their money where their mouth is.