Over 90% of recently sentenced Jan 6 rioters have received prison sentences

[Reepicheep]

I would be interested to see one of these go to a full jury trail instead of the prosecution just hammering out cheap and easy plea deals.

As I've already mentioned earlier in this thread, Thomas Webster had a full jury trial. He claimed he was acting in self defense when he beat the police officer with a metal flag pole. The jury didn't accept his reasoning and found him guilty, and the judge sentenced him to ten years in prison, the longest sentence so far given to one of the insurrectionists.

[Mountain Man]

I do not believe you can document anything unethical in these cases. Any one will do.

Obviously I am not privy to the details. I just have reasonable suspicions.

[Starlight]

I see over 900 people have now been charged for participating in the attack on the capitol.

[shunyadragon]

I see over 900 people have now been charged for participating in the attack on the capitol.

Is that all?

[shunyadragon]

Obviously I am not privy to the details. I just have reasonable suspicions.

Reasonable suspicions based on an agenda. I believe from the list they got of light based on the crimes involved.

[Reepicheep]

I see over 900 people have now been charged for participating in the attack on the capitol.

As of today, 250 people have been sentenced. A few months ago I read that the FBI estimates that there are roughly 2,000 protestors/insurrectionists whose behavior on January 6th justify criminal charges, so I suspect the FBI will be looking for people for at least another year or two.

[Reepicheep]

For one insurrectionist, Couy Griffin, the consequences of taking part in the January 6th uprising were especially interesting. His role in the insurrection was relatively minor, and in June he was sentenced to 14 days in jail and fines totalling $3500.

What is interesting, though, is that he was an elected government official. Two days ago, he was found guilty of violating the 14th Amendment by taking part in an insurrection against the United States government. He thus became the first government official to be removed from office as a result of January 6th. Griffin is now banned for life from ever holding a federal or state elected position.

[Reepicheep]

It is often claimed that none of the January 6th insurrectionists was carrying a firearm. This is, of course, incorrect. For example, Mark Mazza pleaded guilty in June to carrying a Taurus revolver to the insurrection (the weapon Mazza carried was loaded with three shotgun shells and two hollow point bullets). Mazza will be sentenced on September 30th and faces a jail sentence of up to 20 years for attacking officers and an additional five years for carrying an unlicensed firearm.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/i...officers-jan-6

[Reepicheep]

There has been a significant arrest, conviction, and sentencing of a January 6 insurrectionist which is worthy of note.

In November 2021, insurrectionist Josiah Kenyon was arrested when he was found hiding in the Nevada mountains, where he was living in a small unheated trailer with his wife and two children (as an aside: I remember reading that, at the time of his arrest, both Kenyon and his wife were charged with child endangerment, and that the children were spouting the same anti-government "sovereign citizen" nonsense as the parents).

Kenyon was charged with causing severe damage to one of the windows in the Capitol Building, after which he attacked police officers with a variety of weapons including a table leg with a nail sticking out. Kenyon was fined a total of $43,315 and sentenced to 6 years in prison.

Up to this point, the largest fines I can recall being given to insurrectionists were to a married couple who were each fined $5000, so it appears this fine sets a new record. The 6 year prison sentence is certainly at the higher end of the sentences handed out, but I know there was at least one ten year sentence, so this 6 year sentence isn't a new record.

Do you all recall the horrifying footage of the officer who screamed in pain as an insurrectionist pinned him between a door and a door frame? That insurrectionist, Patrick McCaughey, has been found guilty, and the prosecution is asking for a 16 year prison sentence. There is a good chance that the judge with sentence McCaughey to a prison sentence of greater than ten years, which would set a new record for the amount of time an insurrectionist will spend in jail.

[Sparko]

There has been a significant arrest, conviction, and sentencing of a January 6 insurrectionist which is worthy of note.

In November 2021, insurrectionist Josiah Kenyon was arrested when he was found hiding in the Nevada mountains, where he was living in a small unheated trailer with his wife and two children (as an aside: I remember reading that, at the time of his arrest, both Kenyon and his wife were charged with child endangerment, and that the children were spouting the same anti-government "sovereign citizen" nonsense as the parents).

Kenyon was charged with causing severe damage to one of the windows in the Capitol Building, after which he attacked police officers with a variety of weapons including a table leg with a nail sticking out. Kenyon was fined a total of $43,315 and sentenced to 6 years in prison.

Up to this point, the largest fines I can recall being given to insurrectionists were to a married couple who were each fined $5000, so it appears this fine sets a new record. The 6 year prison sentence is certainly at the higher end of the sentences handed out, but I know there was at least one ten year sentence, so this 6 year sentence isn't a new record.

Do you all recall the horrifying footage of the officer who screamed in pain as an insurrectionist pinned him between a door and a door frame? That insurrectionist, Patrick McCaughey, has been found guilty, and the prosecution is asking for a 16 year prison sentence. There is a good chance that the judge with sentence McCaughey to a prison sentence of greater than ten years, which would set a new record for the amount of time an insurrectionist will spend in jail.

You realize that actual insurrection is a crime itself, basically treason, right? If this was an insurrection, why hasn't anyone been charged with insurrection or treason, but only on vandalism?

[Mountain Man]

Meanwhile, violent criminals in liberal hell holes like New York City are being given a slap on the wrist, if they are punished at all, and sent on their way to become a repeat offender.

[oxmixmudd]

Interesting that the lawfare blog has noticed that democratic justices are going out of their way to punish more harshly:

Source: https://www.lawfareblog.com/are-judges-showing-their-political-colors-jan-6-criminal-cases

Here’s what the Post did. It reviewed the 74 sentences that had been handed down by the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia (where all the Jan. 6 Capitol riot cases are being filed) as of the first anniversary of the event. Then it compared those sentences to the terms the prosecutors had sought.

As an initial matter, the Post found that 49 defendants—two-thirds—received lighter sentences than prosecutors had recommended.

That much was not surprising. Light sentences were to be expected given that (a) all of these sentences stemmed from guilty pleas—a factor counseling leniency in itself; (b) prosecutors often seek more time—and defense lawyers less—than they realistically expect, with judges imposing sentences in between; (c) nearly 90 percent of the pleas were to nonviolent misdemeanors; (d) the vast majority involved first offenders; and (e) the lion’s share of pleas were, in fact, to Class B misdemeanors—petty offenses carrying only a maximum theoretical term of six months in jail. (See my own analysis of the early guilty pleas here.)

Still, when the paper drilled down, it uncovered some unmistakable trends. Of the 49 sentences that were lighter than prosecutors sought, 30 (61 percent) had been handed down by Republican appointees. This tilt could not be explained by the distribution of Republican appointees on the bench. Of all the judges who have sentenced a Capitol riot defendant, 10 were appointed by Democrats, while eight were appointed by Republicans.

Upon swiveling the tables—homing in on which judges imposed sentences that were harsher than the prosecutors requested—a mirror-image pattern emerged. Of the 11 sentences that were tougher than the government sought, nine (82 percent) were imposed by Democratic appointees.

At a more granular level, matters got even worse. Two judges appointed by President Trump were the ones who most frequently went under prosecutors’ recommendations. U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols had done so in eight of the 10 sentencings he’d handled, for instance, while Judge Trevor McFadden had done the same thing in five of his seven sentencings.

At the other end of the spectrum, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan, a President Obama appointee—and former supervisor in the Public Defender Service in Washington, D.C.—was the harshest sentencer. She imposed more time than prosecutors sought in seven of her eight sentencings. (As early as last October, several daily reporters had noticed that McFadden and Chutkan were emerging as “polar opposites” in sentencing, as the New York Times’s Alan Feuer put it, with McFadden being “the judge who’s been the most skeptical of jailtime for low-level J6 defendants.”)

So, yes, something seems to be going on. Of course, I don’t have data on whether Nichols’s, McFadden’s or Chutkan’s sentencing proclivities in the Jan. 6 cases are out of alignment with their propensities in non-Capitol riot cases.

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Or perhaps Republican justices are going out of their way to punish more lightly. Jan 6 was a serious breach. Punishments need to be on the heavy end to discuourage a repeat.

[firstfloor]

Knowing how plea bargaining work gives us good reason to be suspicious of these convictions.

A conviction is a conviction. The plea deal is admission of guilt. The incentive is beneficial to both sides. No reason to be suspicious.

[firstfloor]

Meanwhile, violent criminals in liberal hell holes like New York City are being given a slap on the wrist, if they are punished at all, and sent on their way to become a repeat offender.

Tosh and nonsense.

[Starlight]

Meanwhile, violent criminals in liberal hell holes like New York City

Did you post this even after being corrected on the subject yesterday in the other thread?