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  • Affidavit Released...

    https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.c...-affidavit.pdf
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

  • #2
    I haven't finished reading it all yet, but I just had to laugh at one section. It is basically ....

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    ... according to CBS News, a couple of trucks were seen at the premises ...
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    Maybe we should just dig up the old CBS News article?

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    • #3
      Since the document is so heavily redacted, this is going to be a Rorschach test. People are going to see what they want to see.
      "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

      "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
        Since the document is so heavily redacted, this is going to be a Rorschach test. People are going to see what they want to see.
        Care to wager that this raid was in so many gray areas that it would have been a Rorschach test even if it were completely uncensored?

        One thing I'm hearing is that one of the big issues (as the whole he-stole-nuclear-secrets hoax quietly dies away) was the storage. Much of the information seized was in what was called "office 45" -- a closet. And it was improperly stored.

        Yup. It looks like Trump pulled a Hillary! Keeping classified information in an unsecured location. And a closet to boot.

        Of course nobody ever dreamed of raiding the Clinton compound over that.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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        • #5
          No wager here. I find I am getting increasingly disinterested in a political process that doesn't care about my wellbeing.
          "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

          "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            Care to wager that this raid was in so many gray areas that it would have been a Rorschach test even if it were completely uncensored?

            One thing I'm hearing is that one of the big issues (as the whole he-stole-nuclear-secrets hoax quietly dies away) was the storage. Much of the information seized was in what was called "office 45" -- a closet. And it was improperly stored.

            Yup. It looks like Trump pulled a Hillary! Keeping classified information in an unsecured location. And a closet to boot.

            Of course nobody ever dreamed of raiding the Clinton compound over that.
            Which:
            1. Isn't a reason to not raid Trump, and
            2. Trump had 4 years in which to have a raid on the Clinton compound over that. He didn't because in reality they've been buddies for years.

            EDIT: also there is this which seems a pretty big issue:
            https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...lease-00053944
            Records the FBI obtained from Trump’s Florida home in advance of the Aug. 8 search bore indications they contained human source intelligence, intercepts under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and signals intelligence, as well as other tags indicating high sensitivity. Several of those tightly-controlled documents contained Trump’s “handwritten notes,” the partially-redacted affidavit detailing the Justice Department investigation says.
            That's a big deal. Someone not friendly to the US gets their hands on that sort of information and spies and informants can die. And remember this is stuff stored on a resort where a teenager wandered around for 20 minutes during the height of Trump
            s presidency because he just walked from the beach up one of the underground tunnels of the resort. Random teenager wandered around unstopped for 20 minutes, around the resort.
            Last edited by Gondwanaland; 08-26-2022, 01:15 PM.

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            • #7
              The affidavit seems to suggest that they didn't know whether or not the premises where the documents in question were being stored was a secure location. How could they not know when they had visited Mar-a-Lago previously? I would have expected this question to be answered definitively in the negative to justify a search warrant.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


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              • #8
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Care to wager that this raid was in so many gray areas that it would have been a Rorschach test even if it were completely uncensored?

                One thing I'm hearing is that one of the big issues (as the whole he-stole-nuclear-secrets hoax quietly dies away) was the storage. Much of the information seized was in what was called "office 45" -- a closet. And it was improperly stored.

                Yup. It looks like Trump pulled a Hillary! Keeping classified information in an unsecured location. And a closet to boot.

                Of course nobody ever dreamed of raiding the Clinton compound over that.
                The problem is that the two different narratives are NOT mutually exclusive.

                It's entirely possible for this to be a Politically Motivated investigation, AND for Trump to be guilty of what they are investigating.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                  The problem is that the two different narratives are NOT mutually exclusive.

                  It's entirely possible for this to be a Politically Motivated investigation, AND for Trump to be guilty of what they are investigating.
                  My point was that it looks like Trump is guilty of doing exactly (or at least close enough to) what he raked Hillary over the coals for doing.

                  And that nobody ever dreamed of raiding the Clinton compound over it.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                    Which:
                    1. Isn't a reason to not raid Trump, and
                    2. Trump had 4 years in which to have a raid on the Clinton compound over that. He didn't because in reality they've been buddies for years.

                    EDIT: also there is this which seems a pretty big issue:
                    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...lease-00053944


                    That's a big deal. Someone not friendly to the US gets their hands on that sort of information and spies and informants can die. And remember this is stuff stored on a resort where a teenager wandered around for 20 minutes during the height of Trumps presidency because he just walked from the beach up one of the underground tunnels of the resort. Random teenager wandered around unstopped for 20 minutes, around the resort.
                    Oh boy, looks like it's even worse than just being a place where a teenager can wander around after going up an underground tunnel:

                    https://newsinteractive.post-gazette...box=1661527001
                    Federal Authorities Investigating Woman Who Posed As A Rothschild And Infiltrated Mar-A-Lago And Trump's Own Entourage

                    PALM BEACH, Fla. — For a time, Anna de Rothschild boasted of her family roots to the European banking dynasty, donning designer clothes, a Rolex watch, and driving a $170,000 black Mercedes-Benz SUV.

                    She talked about developing a sprawling luxury housing project on Emerald Bay in the Bahamas, a high-rise hotel in Monaco, and a Formula One race track in Miami, say people who knew her.

                    A pivotal moment for the woman who was fluent in several languages took place last year when she was invited to Mar-a-Lago, where she mingled with former President Donald Trump’s supporters and showed up the next day for a golf outing with Mr. Trump and Sen. Lindsey Graham among other political luminaries.

                    Anna-with-Trump-Graham.jpg


                    Inna Yashchyshyn poses with former President Donald Trump and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., at Mr. Trump’s private golf course just miles from Mar-a-Lago in May 2021.


                    But the 33-year-old woman was not a member of the famous banking family, and is now a subject of a widening FBI investigation that has delved into her past financial activities and the events that led her to the former president’s home.

                    “It was the near-perfect ruse and she played the part,” said John LeFevre, a former investment banker who met her with other guests around a club pool.

                    In addition to the FBI, law enforcement agents in Canada have confirmed that she has been the subject of a major crimes unit investigation in Quebec since February.

                    A year before the FBI’s spectacular raid of the former president’s seaside home, the woman whose real name is Inna Yashchyshyn, a Russian-speaking immigrant from Ukraine, made several trips into the estate posing as a member of the famous family while making inroads with some of the former president’s key supporters.

                    The ability of Ms. Yashchyshyn — the daughter of an Illinois truck driver — to bypass the security at Mr. Trump’s club demonstrates the ease with which someone with a fake identity and shadowy background can get into a facility that’s one of America’s power centers and the epicenter of Republican Party politics.


                    Those issues have become even more critical after FBI agents seized boxes of classified and top-secret materials two weeks ago from Mar-a-Lago after executing a search warrant on Mr. Trump’s home.

                    Her entry — multiple trips in and out of the club grounds — lays bare the vulnerabilities of a facility that serves as both the former president's residence and a private club, and highlights the gaps in security that can take place.
                    “That’s his residence,” said Ed Martin, a former U.S. Treasury special agent who spent more than two decades in criminal intelligence. “She shouldn’t have been in there.”



                    FBI Bears Down

                    The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project learned that numerous records have been turned over to the FBI as part of the inquiry, including copies of two fake passports from the U.S. and Canada — bearing her photo and the name Anna de Rothschild — and a Florida driver’s license with the same name that shows the address of an opulent $13 million mansion in Miami Beach where she has never lived.

                    Ms. Yashchyshyn said in sworn statements in a legal dispute that she has never used another name and has not broken any laws. In an interview with the Post-Gazette, she said she didn’t know Anna de Rothschild.

                    “I think there is some misunderstanding,” she said.

                    She said that she was meeting with FBI agents on Aug. 19 and that passports or driver’s licenses generated with the Rothschild name and her photo were fabricated by her former business partner to harm her. “That’s all fake, and nothing happened,” she said.

                    Mr. LeFevre and three other guests interviewed for this story said Ms. Yashchyshyn repeatedly told people after entering the palatial Mar-a-Lago grounds that she was a Rothschild “and everyone was eating it up,” he said.

                    The probe into her activities comes three years after two different women from China — one of them toting two passports and a thumb drive with malicious software — were arrested in separate instances after they entered the club grounds while Mr. Trump was president.

                    Both were sentenced to less than a year in jail and have since been released with at least one being deported to China last year.

                    The Secret Service said it could not comment on whether the agency is investigating Ms. Yashchyshyn’s visits to the former president’s home in May 2021, or any other subsequent trips.

                    “To maintain the operational integrity of our work, we are unable to comment specifically concerning the means, methods or resources used to conduct our protective operations,” said Steven Kopek, a special agent and spokesman, in a statement.

                    The Secret Service more than likely didn’t run background checks to determine Ms. Yashchyshyn’s identity when she visited the former president’s home, partly because the level of protection drops significantly when a president leaves office, said four former agents interviewed for this story.

                    In most cases, “they are going to do a level of screening — a hand check” for weapons, said Jonathan Wackrow, a former agent who served on President Barack Obama’s detail. “He still has a full detail.”

                    But experts say her ability to mingle with members of Mr. Trump’s entourage raises concerns about ongoing security at the private club that continues to host some of the most powerful elected leaders in the country and serves as a storage site for some of the country’s closely guarded secrets.

                    “The question is was it a fraud or an intelligence threat,” said Charles Marino, a former Secret Service supervisor. “The fact that we are asking this question is a problem.”

                    I Am The Victim Right Now

                    Little information is public about Ms. Yashchyshyn, who once worked for a suburban Miami business that specializes in providing pregnant Russian mothers the option to have their babies in the U.S. to gain citizenship, court records show.

                    But when a bitter court dispute erupted last year between her and a close associate with whom she once lived, the details of her whirlwind trips to Mar-a-Lago and other activities over the past several years began to surface and soon reached the attention of federal agents.

                    Valeriy Tarasenko, 44, a Florida businessman who was raised in Moscow, said he met Ms. Yashchyshyn in 2014 and allowed her to live in his Miami condo so that she would watch his children when he traveled on business.

                    They have since parted ways over what he alleged was her abuse of one of his children – accusations that Ms. Yashchyshyn vehemently denies.

                    He said he has met twice with FBI agents and spoke to them about multiple trips she made to Mar-a-Lago and what he claims were her efforts to make inroads in the Trump family and look for new streams of money.

                    She used “her fake identity as Anna de Rothschild to gain access to and build relationships with U.S. politician[s], including but not limited to Donald Trump, Lindsey Graham, and Eric Greitens,” he said in a court affidavit in Miami.

                    Mr. Greitens is a former Missouri governor who resigned in 2018 after allegations of sexual misconduct. He held a fundraiser at a Palm Beach mansion last year where Ms. Yashchyshyn was invited.

                    Ms. Yashchyshyn, an officer in two Florida companies founded by Mr. Tarasenko — both devoid of any assets — claimed that whatever steps she took to gain money were directed by him.

                    “[E]very single move that I did, I’ve been told by Valeriy to do so,” she said in a deposition. “[A]fter a few incidents like that, I realized that he’s using me for his lifestyle and for his needs.”

                    Ms. Yashchyshyn said that at one point when she tried to break from him, he repeatedly struck her. “Over time, Tarasenko became more controlling and aggressive over me,” she said in an affidavit.

                    “I am the victim right now, that’s all I can tell you,” she said in an interview.

                    Mr. Tarasenko, who was once detained in Moscow for carrying a police-style baton at a metro station in 1998, denied that he physically harmed her.

                    In 2015, Ms. Yashchyshyn became president of a Miami charity, United Hearts of Mercy — the same name of a charity founded by Mr. Tarasenko in Canada five years earlier.

                    The Miami entity was promoted on social media as a vehicle to help impoverished children but was actually a source of illicit funds for organized crime, according to a statement by a certified public accountant for the charity that was provided to the FBI.

                    After hundreds of thousands of dollars poured into the charity’s coffers two years ago, a payment processor, Stripe Inc., suspected fraud and stopped taking in money for a campaign that was supposed to help families ravaged by the pandemic.

                    The Post-Gazette emailed more than two dozen of the “donors” from Hong Kong, and every email bounced back, suggesting they were fake email addresses used to trick the payment processor.

                    At the end of the charity drive, the accountant, Tatiana Verzilina, said she began to get calls from people who she suspected were from criminal groups, threatening violence and demanding the money.

                    The callers left “voice messages from unknown numbers with accents that if I do not return money, I and my family will be harmed or killed,” she wrote in her statement.

                    Though the charity was supposed to disclose its revenues to the public because of the amount of funds it took in, it failed to do so. Ms. Verzilina, who is now living in her native Russia, declined to talk about the case.

                    So far, it’s not clear where the funds went.

                    The FBI in Miami said it would not comment, but at least three people who live in South Florida said they have been interviewed by FBI agents in the past seven months about Ms. Yashchyshyn’s activities.

                    One of them, Sergey Golubev, a Russian-born U.S. citizen who was once married to Ms. Yashchyshyn, said they wed in 2011 so she could obtain U.S. residency and stay in the country, but the marriage was only on paper.

                    “At some point, she needed a permanent green card,” said Mr. Golubev, 48.

                    He said the FBI told him that agents were looking for her in connection with allegations about something “illegal — cheating people and stealing money,” but he said he didn’t know any details, and was unaware of her activities. He said he lost touch with her after their divorce in 2016.

                    Photos Of Trump Turned Over To FBI

                    Another person who spoke to the Post-Gazette on the condition of anonymity said a host of records, photos and videos had been turned over to the FBI of Ms. Yashchyshyn, including pictures of her posing with Mr. Trump, Mr. Graham, Donald Trump Jr.’s fiancee, Kimberly Guilfoyle, and Trump campaign donor Richard Kofoed, along with other supporters of the former president.

                    Mr. Kofoed, 60, who donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the former president’s campaign and had been a frequent visitor to Mar-a-Lago, declined to comment.

                    Ms. Guilfoyle, 53, whose name emerged in the Jan. 6 hearings after it was revealed she received $60,000 for delivering a speech to protesters on the day of the attack, didn’t respond to interview requests.

                    So far, the FBI’s questioning appears to hint at a widening criminal probe into a network of people that includes Ms. Yashchyshyn, who traveled under various aliases while mingling with politicians and wealthy businessmen.

                    She showed up at the U.S. Open in Flushing Meadows, N.Y., last year and the Austrian World Summit in 2019, where her picture was taken with the likes of celebrity rapper Ray J and Italian car designer Horacio Pagani.

                    “We always thought her grandfather had the money and that he was an oligarch,” said developer Paul Barton, who said his family company paid for her to fly at least three times on private jets to their resort project in the Bahamas.

                    She was offered a deal to sell their sprawling residential development for $55 million and receive a commission, records show, but no such sale was made.

                    During their discussions, he said she talked about her involvement in putting up a high-rise hotel in Monaco, a speed track in Miami and a condo project in Canada. “She talked a good game,” he said.

                    Though law enforcement agents in Quebec acknowledged their own inquiry of Ms. Yashchyshyn, they would not provide any details.

                    At some point, she met Trump supporter Elchanan Adamker, a New York financial services company founder who travels often to Miami. Mr. Adamker, who declined to comment, invited her to join him for a gathering at Mar-a-Lago, where she arrived in her Mercedes-Benz SUV on May 1.

                    There’s no indication she met that first day with the former president, who, along with Mr. Graham, was about to launch a $25,000-per-person golf fundraiser to raise money for the midterm elections.

                    But when the event was held the next day at Trump International Golf Club just a few miles from Mar-a-Lago, she gathered with the former president, who posed with her for several photos. In another frame, she stood alongside Mr. Trump and the South Carolina senator, the three smiling and gesturing with their thumbs up.

                    Later, a guest joked with her that he would pass the photos onto her for a hefty price. “Anna, you're a Rothschild — you can afford $1 million for a picture with you and Trump,” he said in a video.


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      My point was that it looks like Trump is guilty of doing exactly (or at least close enough to) what he raked Hillary over the coals for doing.

                      And that nobody ever dreamed of raiding the Clinton compound over it.
                      And yet he was the one who could have....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                        And yet he was the one who could have....
                        Actually it is Obama who could have ordered a raid on Clinton's compound. The discovery of Hillary Clintons mishandling of classified emails on an unsecure server in her basement was before Trump was even elected Obama was still President when the DOJ and FBI were investigating Hillary Clinton on her mishandling of classified material.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                          And yet he was the one who could have....
                          Though I agree that Trump could (should) have done more like he promised during his campaign to come after her, in fairness, had he pulled a similar DoJ raid like this, there unquestionably would been far more blood and violence in the streets from TDS leftists being stoked by liberal MSM. Dems successfully kept his hands tied for four years of fake and frivolous accusations and investigations.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                            Actually it is Obama who could have ordered a raid on Clinton's compound. The discovery of Hillary Clintons mishandling of classified emails on an unsecure server in her basement was before Trump was even elected Obama was still President when the DOJ and FBI were investigating Hillary Clinton on her mishandling of classified material.
                            Trump's mishandling of classified emails began the second he left office (at best), yet here he is being investigated now a year and a half later for it. So miss me with that baloney. Trump literally ran on locking her up for the same thing it appears he has been doing. There isn't some magical time limit in the short time it took for Trump to take office that magically meant he could not raid Hillary.
                            Last edited by Gondwanaland; 08-26-2022, 03:47 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by seanD View Post

                              Though I agree that Trump could (should) have done more like he promised during his campaign to come after her, in fairness, had he pulled a similar DoJ raid like this, there unquestionably would been far more blood and violence in the streets from TDS leftists being stoked by liberal MSM. Dems successfully kept his hands tied for four years of fake and frivolous accusations and investigations.
                              There's currently a dead Trump Cultist who his leader riled up a couple weeks ago. Dunno about the 'far more blood and violence in the streets' if Hillary had gotten raided, hun.

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