Taken out of context apparently, but an unfortunate reference.

[rogue06]

The Original Hamburger.

Take scrapings of lamb
Form them into a ball
Place them under the saddle on a horse
Ride the horse for the day: the movement of saddle against the horse's back tenderises the lamb
At day's end, take the lamb and eat.

Tasty, yes?

Sounds like the original recipe for steak tartar, but I believe it was horse meat.

[tabibito]

Sounds like the original recipe for steak tartar, but I believe it was horse meat.

Steak Tartar it was (but not horse meat). Original recipe can be found by googling "Gengis Kahn hamburger" (without the quotes).
It became beef in Russia, then to France where it gained the name "steak tartar."
Then to Hamburg and passenger liners plying between Hamburg and New York, where it came to be called initially "Steak Hamburg style"
Then someone got the bright idea of cooking it, and it became hamburger.

Just by way of demonstrating that I too knows things.

[CivilDiscourse]

The Original Hamburger.

Take scrapings of lamb
Form them into a ball
Place them under the saddle on a horse
Ride the horse for the day: the movement of saddle against the horse's back tenderises the lamb
At day's end, take the lamb and eat.

Tasty, yes?

Texas Jambalaya

• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• 1 cup diced onion
• ½ cup diced green bell pepper
• ½ cup diced celery
• 1 ½ teaspoons chopped garlic
• 1 cup converted long-grain white rice
• 4 ounces smoked sausage, cut into slices
• 4 ounces cooked ham, cut into bite-size pieces
• 2 (10 ounce) cans diced tomatoes with green chile peppers
• 1 cup chicken broth
• ¼ teaspoon dried thyme
• 1 bay leaf
• 2 (15 ounce) cans ranch-style beans, undrained
  
  Heat oil in a large saucepan over medium heat. Saute onion, green pepper and celery, until onions are soft and translucent. Stir in garlic, and cook another minute. Add rice, sausage and ham. Cook 2 to 3 minutes, to coat the rice with oil, stirring frequently. Pour in tomatoes with green chiles and chicken broth. Season with thyme and bay leaf. Bring to a boil, then reduce heat. Cover, and simmer 20 to 25 minutes, or until liquid is absorbed. Stir in the beans, mix well and heat through.

[rogue06]

Steak Tartar it was (but not horse meat). Original recipe can be found by googling "Gengis Kahn hamburger" (without the quotes).
It became beef in Russia, then to France where it gained the name "steak tartar."
Then to Hamburg and passenger liners plying between Hamburg and New York, where it came to be called initially "Steak Hamburg style"
Then someone got the bright idea of cooking it, and it became hamburger.

Just by way of demonstrating that I too knows things.

Steak tartar (or is it tartare?) is essentially uncooked as opposed to a hamburger. In fact hamburger typically comes from chuck steak whereas a proper steak tartar is usually from the tenderloin.

[Mountain Man]

This thread has certainly taken some interesting turns.

[rogue06]

This thread has certainly taken some interesting turns.

Tis the Tweb way.

[tabibito]

Steak tartar (or is it tartare?) is essentially uncooked as opposed to a hamburger. In fact hamburger typically comes from chuck steak whereas a proper steak tartar is usually from the tenderloin.

Steak tartare it is. I usually go with whatever spelling comes up though.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Interesting little discovery from 2010. It seems Mr Paladino's reference to Hitler in June was not his first.

https://www.jta.org/2010/09/21/ny/pa...tler-reference

Republican candidate for governor Carl Paladino on Tuesday struggled to explain inflammatory comments attributed to him about Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver by an upstate newspaper last year — comments driven to the forefront by his upset primary victory last week — ultimately saying, “I condemn the words.”

Last October Paladino, at a public forum in upstate Wheatfield in Niagara County, defended comments by Erie County Supervisor Chris Collins at a Republican dinner that Silver was “the anti-Christ” because of his spending and social policies. According to the Niagara Gazette, Paladino said Collins, who apologized for his remarks, should not have done so.

“If I could ever describe a person who would fit the bill of an anti-Christ or a Hitler, this guy [Silver] is it,” Paladino was quoted as saying.

A spokesman for Paladino on Monday had insisted Paladino never used those words, but at an appearance the next day with politically conservative Orthodox rabbis in Flatbush, Brooklyn, the candidate first said the quote was taken out of context, and then said: “I may have used the word Hitler.”

After one rabbi in the room said the comparison was “more than distasteful,” Paladino said, “I condemn the words, there’s no question about that.”
But he insisted he had only brought up the topic to defend Collins against charges of anti-Semitism. “I don’t have an anti-Semitic bone in my body,” he said. “I practiced law in Buffalo and I have many Jewish friends.”

Republican candidate for governor Carl Paladino on Tuesday struggled to explain inflammatory comments attributed to him about Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver by an upstate newspaper last year — comments driven to the forefront by his upset primary victory last week — ultimately saying, “I condemn the words.”

Last October Paladino, at a public forum in upstate Wheatfield in Niagara County, defended comments by Erie County Supervisor Chris Collins at a Republican dinner that Silver was “the anti-Christ” because of his spending and social policies. According to the Niagara Gazette, Paladino said Collins, who apologized for his remarks, should not have done so.

“If I could ever describe a person who would fit the bill of an anti-Christ or a Hitler, this guy [Silver] is it,” Paladino was quoted as saying.

A spokesman for Paladino on Monday had insisted Paladino never used those words, but at an appearance the next day with politically conservative Orthodox rabbis in Flatbush, Brooklyn, the candidate first said the quote was taken out of context, and then said: “I may have used the word Hitler.”

After one rabbi in the room said the comparison was “more than distasteful,” Paladino said, “I condemn the words, there’s no question about that.”
But he insisted he had only brought up the topic to defend Collins against charges of anti-Semitism. “I don’t have an anti-Semitic bone in my body,” he said. “I practiced law in Buffalo and I have many Jewish friends.”

An unfortunate final comment from Mr Paladino given its connotations.

And if I have sourced the correct Sheldon Silver [who died this year] Mr Silver's background was Orthodox Judaism. Mr Paladino once again exhibited his unfortunate gift.

[rogue06]

Interesting little discovery from 2010. It seems Mr Paladino's reference to Hitler in June was not his first.

https://www.jta.org/2010/09/21/ny/pa...tler-reference

Republican candidate for governor Carl Paladino on Tuesday struggled to explain inflammatory comments attributed to him about Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver by an upstate newspaper last year — comments driven to the forefront by his upset primary victory last week — ultimately saying, “I condemn the words.”

Last October Paladino, at a public forum in upstate Wheatfield in Niagara County, defended comments by Erie County Supervisor Chris Collins at a Republican dinner that Silver was “the anti-Christ” because of his spending and social policies. According to the Niagara Gazette, Paladino said Collins, who apologized for his remarks, should not have done so.

“If I could ever describe a person who would fit the bill of an anti-Christ or a Hitler, this guy [Silver] is it,” Paladino was quoted as saying.

A spokesman for Paladino on Monday had insisted Paladino never used those words, but at an appearance the next day with politically conservative Orthodox rabbis in Flatbush, Brooklyn, the candidate first said the quote was taken out of context, and then said: “I may have used the word Hitler.”

After one rabbi in the room said the comparison was “more than distasteful,” Paladino said, “I condemn the words, there’s no question about that.”
But he insisted he had only brought up the topic to defend Collins against charges of anti-Semitism. “I don’t have an anti-Semitic bone in my body,” he said. “I practiced law in Buffalo and I have many Jewish friends.”

Republican candidate for governor Carl Paladino on Tuesday struggled to explain inflammatory comments attributed to him about Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver by an upstate newspaper last year — comments driven to the forefront by his upset primary victory last week — ultimately saying, “I condemn the words.”

Last October Paladino, at a public forum in upstate Wheatfield in Niagara County, defended comments by Erie County Supervisor Chris Collins at a Republican dinner that Silver was “the anti-Christ” because of his spending and social policies. According to the Niagara Gazette, Paladino said Collins, who apologized for his remarks, should not have done so.

“If I could ever describe a person who would fit the bill of an anti-Christ or a Hitler, this guy [Silver] is it,” Paladino was quoted as saying.

A spokesman for Paladino on Monday had insisted Paladino never used those words, but at an appearance the next day with politically conservative Orthodox rabbis in Flatbush, Brooklyn, the candidate first said the quote was taken out of context, and then said: “I may have used the word Hitler.”

After one rabbi in the room said the comparison was “more than distasteful,” Paladino said, “I condemn the words, there’s no question about that.”
But he insisted he had only brought up the topic to defend Collins against charges of anti-Semitism. “I don’t have an anti-Semitic bone in my body,” he said. “I practiced law in Buffalo and I have many Jewish friends.”

An unfortunate final comment from Mr Paladino given its connotations.

And if I have sourced the correct Sheldon Silver [who died this year] Mr Silver's background was Orthodox Judaism. Mr Paladino once again exhibited his unfortunate gift.

The final comment was similar to the battle cry among those liberal racists of recent decades who after doing or saying something racist would insist otherwise because "some of my best friends are black." Funny how you never saw them hanging out with any of those "best friends."

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

The final comment was similar to the battle cry among those liberal racists of recent decades who after doing or saying something racist would insist otherwise because "some of my best friends are black." Funny how you never saw them hanging out with any of those "best friends."

That reads as an example of "whataboutism" i.e. a reversal of accusation by contending that "liberal racists" are equally as guilty of such comments, which are as "unfortunate" as those made by Mr Paladino.

That Mr Paladino made such a comment some twelve years ago is merely another example of his unfortunate gift.

[rogue06]

That reads as an example of "whataboutism" i.e. a reversal of accusation by contending that "liberal racists" are equally as guilty of such comments, which are as "unfortunate" as those made by Mr Paladino.

That Mr Paladino made such a comment some twelve years ago is merely another example of his unfortunate gift.

That was not intended as a defense of Paladino, but rather noting how he appears to be using a discredited defense.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

That was not intended as a defense of Paladino, but rather noting how he appears to be using a discredited defense.

As I noted, his "unfortunate gift" was demonstrated.

[rogue06]

In any case, he appears to have lost his primary bid.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

In any case, he appears to have lost his primary bid.

Yes.