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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostI got into a discussion on this with some Cheney cultists over on huffpost.
I asked the same question I put here. I wonder if she realizes that the democrats she's been relying on are going to drop her like a rock when she's no longer useful.
They said she had larger ambitions, and part of her grander plan was getting out of her current office. They had no answer when I pointed out that she could have simply not sought re-election, and didn't have to lose an election in order to do that.
I suppose there is a small chance she could run as the VP on the 2024 Republican ticket. I don't view this as very likely.
Most likely: her political career is done."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View PostI see no path to the Presidency for her at this time. There aren't anywhere near enough Republicans that would vote for her even if she gets 100% of the anti-Trump Republicans. Democrats have to many favorites and long-serving members to vote for a party switcher. She's DOA if she tries to run as an independent.
I suppose there is a small chance she could run as the VP on the 2024 Republican ticket. I don't view this as very likely.
Most likely: her political career is done.
Of course that's probably less probable than Joe Manchin being the Republicans VP choice.
Another thing to consider is that right up to the J6 Committee, Democrats absolutely loathed her with a purple passion. On MSNBC she was called, among other things, "a toxic example of what affirmative action for over privileged white people looks like," "toxic" and "Dracula's daughter."
Over on CNN, after her 37 point drubbing, they brought up her running for president on New Day where they noted her base of support consists of ... wait for it ... Democrats and "the Beltway media" [the MSM inside Washington D.C.], both of which will vanish faster than dew when the sun comes out when actual Democrats announce their candidacy.
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostConstitutionalists are coming back in November to put the brakes on your Orwellian state."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI'm curious by what you mean by "Constitutionalists"? Obviously you're referring to Republicans getting elected, but I also assume that for you Republican doesn't necessarily equal Constitutionalist (e.g. Liz Cheney). Which part of the Constitution is upmost in your mind when you use that term?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostA Constitutionalist is someone who holds to a strict interpretation of the document rather than loosely interpreting it so that it can mean whatever you want at the moment. They are referring to all of it.
I'm not sure if that's the meaning Ronson was thinking of though. He was imagining Dems as Fascist, and Constitutionalists as opposite to that. It also wasn't clear to me whether Liz Cheney was among the Constitutionalists or not in Ronson's view.
Also, Ronson was talking about Constitutionalists getting voted in during the midterms. Given that SCOTUS, not Congress, interprets the constitution, to a great degree it doesn't really matter what interpretive view of the Constitution people in congress hold. Arguably it would matter what view the President held since he nominates new SCOTUS justices, but these are midterms so the President isn't up for election. So I'm not sure that the originalist vs living document view would have been what was on Ronson's mind when he talked about Constitutionalists winning in the midterms..."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou mean in the sense of a Scalia-Originalist interpretive view rather than a living document view? Okay. That's certain a possible meaning.
I'm not sure if that's the meaning Ronson was thinking of though. He was imagining Dems as Fascist, and Constitutionalists as opposite to that. It also wasn't clear to me whether Liz Cheney was among the Constitutionalists or not in Ronson's view.
Also, Ronson was talking about Constitutionalists getting voted in during the midterms. Given that SCOTUS, not Congress, interprets the constitution, to a great degree it doesn't really matter what interpretive view of the Constitution people in congress hold. Arguably it would matter what view the President held since he nominates new SCOTUS justices, but these are midterms so the President isn't up for election. So I'm not sure that the originalist vs living document view would have been what was on Ronson's mind when he talked about Constitutionalists winning in the midterms...
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
I see no path to the Presidency for her at this time. There aren't anywhere near enough Republicans that would vote for her even if she gets 100% of the anti-Trump Republicans. Democrats have to many favorites and long-serving members to vote for a party switcher. She's DOA if she tries to run as an independent.
I suppose there is a small chance she could run as the VP on the 2024 Republican ticket. I don't view this as very likely.
Most likely: her political career is done.
Find them, and then point and laugh.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Gotta love how everything the left doesn't like now has become "fascist". Pretty soon the GOP will propose a tax cut, and tax cuts will be Fascist.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou mean in the sense of a Scalia-Originalist interpretive view rather than a living document view? Okay. That's certain a possible meaning.
I'm not sure if that's the meaning Ronson was thinking of though. He was imagining Dems as Fascist
and Constitutionalists as opposite to that. It also wasn't clear to me whether Liz Cheney was among the Constitutionalists or not in Ronson's view.
Also, Ronson was talking about Constitutionalists getting voted in during the midterms. Given that SCOTUS, not Congress, interprets the constitution, to a great degree it doesn't really matter what interpretive view of the Constitution people in congress hold.
Arguably it would matter what view the President held since he nominates new SCOTUS justices, but these are midterms so the President isn't up for election. So I'm not sure that the originalist vs living document view would have been what was on Ronson's mind when he talked about Constitutionalists winning in the midterms...
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