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    It wasn't Donald Trump that was going to run in 2024, but one of his sons. And his son vowed to pick his father as chief of staff if elected.
    "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

  • #2
    Yeah, Don Jr. as POTUS and Bad Orange Man as his consigliare.
    Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

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    "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

    Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

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    Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

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    • #3
      I actually think it would be a pretty brilliant move. And you know the TDS crowd would immediately direct their attacks and vitriol at his son which would make it even more obvious to everyone that it's all just political.
      "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

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      • #4
        What's with US conservatives and supporting dynasties? I thought you guys were supposed to be against monarchies and hereditary rule? First Bush Snr and Jr, and now you want Trump Snr and Jr?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          What's with US conservatives and supporting dynasties? I thought you guys were supposed to be against monarchies and hereditary rule? First Bush Snr and Jr, and now you want Trump Snr and Jr?
          Personally, at this point I couldn't care less which Rep runs just so long as we purge the present vermin from the house and senate and eventually the WH. It would just be extra fun watching the TDS crowd meltdown nationwide at the news. They had all their focus directed on OMB when it was actually his son set to run.
          "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            What's with US conservatives and supporting dynasties?
            Because conservatives gravitate towards stability, as opposed to leftist chaos.

            I thought you guys were supposed to be against monarchies and hereditary rule?
            It is not a monarchy, if elected by the people. Of course we Christians, ultimately, are monarchists. God is the absolute King of the universe.
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              What's with US conservatives and supporting dynasties? I thought you guys were supposed to be against monarchies and hereditary rule? First Bush Snr and Jr, and now you want Trump Snr and Jr?
              Someone being related to a politician isn't really a qualification. I mean, Hillary's husband being president didn't bother many democrats. The reality is that families with political members are more likely to end up having political children. You don't seem to complain about Liz Cheney being daughter of a vp. Democrats don't complain about the Kennedy's.

              This happens. A person's family should have no connection to whether they are qualified for the office they seek.

              Source: https://rollcall.com/2018/05/17/a-steady-flow-of-political-royal-blood-to-congress/


              THE FAMILY BUSINESS CAUCUS


              Five percent of the members of the 115th Congress — 15 Democrats and 14 Republicans — were preceded at the Capitol by members of their immediate families. Ten were elected to replace their fathers in the House, two were chosen as successors to their husbands and one was elected upon the death of a grandparent. Four arrived in the House after their siblings. Four are senators, although Alaska Republican Lisa Murkowski stands alone as the first person ever appointed to the Senate by a parent. (Her dad, Frank, was a senator until he became governor in 2002 and named her his successor.)

              Rep. Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla.
              Son of Rep. Michael Bilirakis, R-Fla. (1983-2007)

              Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va.
              Daughter of Rep. Arch A. Moore Jr., R-W.Va. (1957-69)

              Rep. André Carson, D-Ind.
              Grandson of Rep. Julia Carson, D-Ind. (1997-2007)

              Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo.
              Daughter of Rep. Dick Cheney, R-Wyo. (1979-89)

              Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-Mo.
              Son of Rep. William L. Clay, D-Mo. (1969-2001)

              Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla.
              Brother of Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart, R-Fla. (1993-2011)

              Rep. Debbie Dingell, D-Mich.
              Wife of Rep. John D. Dingell, D-Mich. (1955-2015)

              Rep. John J. Duncan Jr., R-Tenn.
              Son of Rep. John J. Duncan, R-Tenn. (1965-88)

              Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Pa.
              Brother of Rep. Michael G. Fitzpatrick, R-Pa., (2005-07, 2011-17)

              Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, R-N.J.
              Son of Rep. Peter H. Frelinghuysen, R-N.J. (1953-75)

              Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.
              Son of Rep. Duncan Hunter Sr., R-Calif. (1981-2009)

              Rep. Walter B. Jones, R-N.C.
              Son of Rep. Walter B. Jones Sr., D-N.C. (1966-92)

              Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy III, D-Mass.
              Son of Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy II, D-Mass. (1987-99)

              Rep. Darin LaHood, R-Ill.
              Son of Rep. Ray LaHood, R-Ill. (1995-2009)

              Rep. Bob Latta, R-Ohio
              Son of Rep. Delbert L. Latta, R-Ohio (1959-89)

              Rep. Sander M. Levin, D-Mich.
              Brother of Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich. (1979-2015)

              Rep. Daniel Lipinski, D-Ill.
              Son of Rep. William O. Lipinski, D-Ill. (1983-2005)

              Rep. Doris Matsui, D-Calif.
              Wife of Rep. Robert T. Matsui, D-Calif. (1979-2005)

              Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska
              Daughter of Sen. Frank H. Murkowski, R-Alaska (1981-2002)

              Rep. Jimmy Panetta, D-Calif.
              Son of Rep. Leon E. Panetta, D-Calif. (1977-93)

              Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.
              Son of Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas (1976-77; 1979-85; 1997-2013)

              Rep. Donald M. Payne Jr., D-N.J.
              Son of Rep. Donald M. Payne, D-N.J. (1989-2012)

              Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
              Daughter of Rep. Thomas D’Alesandro Jr., D-Md. (1939-47)

              Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard, D-Calif.
              Daughter of Rep. Edward R. Roybal, D-Calif. (1963-93)

              Rep. Linda T. Sánchez, D-Calif.
              Sister of Rep. Loretta Sanchez, D-Calif. (1997-2017)

              Rep. John Sarbanes, D-Md.
              Son of Sen. Paul S. Sarbanes, D-Md. (1977-2007)

              Rep. Bill Shuster, R-Pa.
              Son of Rep. Bud Shuster, R-Pa. (1973-2001)

              Rep. Niki Tsongas, D-Mass.
              Wife of Sen. Paul Tsongas, D-Mass. (1979-85)

              Sen. Tom Udall, D-N.M.
              Son of Rep. Stewart L. Udall, D-Ariz. (1955-61)

              © Copyright Original Source

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                Someone being related to a politician isn't really a qualification. I mean, Hillary's husband being president didn't bother many democrats. The reality is that families with political members are more likely to end up having political children. You don't seem to complain about Liz Cheney being daughter of a vp. Democrats don't complain about the Kennedy's.

                This happens. A person's family should have no connection to whether they are qualified for the office they seek.

                Source: https://rollcall.com/2018/05/17/a-steady-flow-of-political-royal-blood-to-congress/


                THE FAMILY BUSINESS CAUCUS


                Five percent of the members of the 115th Congress — 15 Democrats and 14 Republicans — were preceded at the Capitol by members of their immediate families. Ten were elected to replace their fathers in the House, two were chosen as successors to their husbands and one was elected upon the death of a grandparent. Four arrived in the House after their siblings. Four are senators, although Alaska Republican Lisa Murkowski stands alone as the first person ever appointed to the Senate by a parent. (Her dad, Frank, was a senator until he became governor in 2002 and named her his successor.)

                Rep. Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla.
                Son of Rep. Michael Bilirakis, R-Fla. (1983-2007)

                Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va.
                Daughter of Rep. Arch A. Moore Jr., R-W.Va. (1957-69)

                Rep. André Carson, D-Ind.
                Grandson of Rep. Julia Carson, D-Ind. (1997-2007)

                Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo.
                Daughter of Rep. Dick Cheney, R-Wyo. (1979-89)

                Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-Mo.
                Son of Rep. William L. Clay, D-Mo. (1969-2001)

                Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla.
                Brother of Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart, R-Fla. (1993-2011)

                Rep. Debbie Dingell, D-Mich.
                Wife of Rep. John D. Dingell, D-Mich. (1955-2015)

                Rep. John J. Duncan Jr., R-Tenn.
                Son of Rep. John J. Duncan, R-Tenn. (1965-88)

                Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Pa.
                Brother of Rep. Michael G. Fitzpatrick, R-Pa., (2005-07, 2011-17)

                Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, R-N.J.
                Son of Rep. Peter H. Frelinghuysen, R-N.J. (1953-75)

                Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.
                Son of Rep. Duncan Hunter Sr., R-Calif. (1981-2009)

                Rep. Walter B. Jones, R-N.C.
                Son of Rep. Walter B. Jones Sr., D-N.C. (1966-92)

                Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy III, D-Mass.
                Son of Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy II, D-Mass. (1987-99)

                Rep. Darin LaHood, R-Ill.
                Son of Rep. Ray LaHood, R-Ill. (1995-2009)

                Rep. Bob Latta, R-Ohio
                Son of Rep. Delbert L. Latta, R-Ohio (1959-89)

                Rep. Sander M. Levin, D-Mich.
                Brother of Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich. (1979-2015)

                Rep. Daniel Lipinski, D-Ill.
                Son of Rep. William O. Lipinski, D-Ill. (1983-2005)

                Rep. Doris Matsui, D-Calif.
                Wife of Rep. Robert T. Matsui, D-Calif. (1979-2005)

                Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska
                Daughter of Sen. Frank H. Murkowski, R-Alaska (1981-2002)

                Rep. Jimmy Panetta, D-Calif.
                Son of Rep. Leon E. Panetta, D-Calif. (1977-93)

                Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.
                Son of Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas (1976-77; 1979-85; 1997-2013)

                Rep. Donald M. Payne Jr., D-N.J.
                Son of Rep. Donald M. Payne, D-N.J. (1989-2012)

                Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
                Daughter of Rep. Thomas D’Alesandro Jr., D-Md. (1939-47)

                Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard, D-Calif.
                Daughter of Rep. Edward R. Roybal, D-Calif. (1963-93)

                Rep. Linda T. Sánchez, D-Calif.
                Sister of Rep. Loretta Sanchez, D-Calif. (1997-2017)

                Rep. John Sarbanes, D-Md.
                Son of Sen. Paul S. Sarbanes, D-Md. (1977-2007)

                Rep. Bill Shuster, R-Pa.
                Son of Rep. Bud Shuster, R-Pa. (1973-2001)

                Rep. Niki Tsongas, D-Mass.
                Wife of Sen. Paul Tsongas, D-Mass. (1979-85)

                Sen. Tom Udall, D-N.M.
                Son of Rep. Stewart L. Udall, D-Ariz. (1955-61)

                © Copyright Original Source

                The only time it bothers me is when a Congressman dies and they place his widow in office to fill out his term like she had a special qualification just by being their spouse.

                As MM says, these folks have to be elected by the voters so it isn't like here in Georgia back in the 40s when the Governor died and his son declares he inherited the position

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  The only time it bothers me is when a Congressman dies and they place his widow in office to fill out his term like she had a special qualification just by being their spouse.

                  As MM says, these folks have to be elected by the voters so it isn't like here in Georgia back in the 40s when the Governor died and his son declares he inherited the position
                  I'm actually bothered more by career longevity than "dynasties." Pelosi, McConnell, Biden being in politics forever bothers me more because that reeks of a revolving door of establishment corruption.
                  "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    What's with US conservatives and supporting dynasties? I thought you guys were supposed to be against monarchies and hereditary rule? First Bush Snr and Jr, and now you want Trump Snr and Jr?
                    You mean like the Kennedys?

                    I hate dynasties. It is an excuse for blueblood elitists to cling to power. Sort of like commonwealth countries and their royal family, only those elitists are bloodsuckers that live off the sweat of the citizens.
                    "You should just assume going forward that if I am ever wrong it is a typo" - Backup
                    "
                    Reality simply does not change based upon consensus or desire." - rogue

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by seanD View Post
                      It wasn't Donald Trump that was going to run in 2024, but one of his sons. And his son vowed to pick his father as chief of staff if elected.
                      Nah. Not for me.
                      "You should just assume going forward that if I am ever wrong it is a typo" - Backup
                      "
                      Reality simply does not change based upon consensus or desire." - rogue

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                        You mean like the Kennedys?

                        I hate dynasties. It is an excuse for blueblood elitists to cling to power. Sort of like commonwealth countries and their royal family, only those elitists are bloodsuckers that live off the sweat of the citizens.
                        The Clintons have been grooming Chelsea for a House run in the next couple of years. And there seems to be some member of the Bush clan always running for this or that office.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                          You mean like the Kennedys?

                          I hate dynasties. It is an excuse for blueblood elitists to cling to power. Sort of like commonwealth countries and their royal family, only those elitists are bloodsuckers that live off the sweat of the citizens.
                          I can see a disdain for dynasties. But in the case of the Trumps, that isn't at all what a dynasty makes. Not only are they not career politicians (which I hate worse), but they obviously are not leveraging any underhanded favors or advantages from the establishment (unlike folks like the Clintons) because the establishment hates them, so any election advantage they have comes directly from the voters, which is how it should be.
                          "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by seanD View Post

                            I can see a disdain for dynasties. But in the case of the Trumps, that isn't at all what a dynasty makes. Not only are they not career politicians (which I hate worse), but they obviously are not leveraging any underhanded favors or advantages from the establishment* (unlike folks like the Clintons) because the establishment hates them, so any election advantage they have comes directly from the voters, which is how it should be.
                            *I should add, other than the establishment left making Trump a martyr, which seems to be working in Trump's favor now.
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                            • #15
                              No thank you. If either of them run and get the nomination, I'll give up all hope on the Republican Party. And they'll definitely not have my vote. And it has nothing to do with a distaste for dynasties, either - overall I really don't care if someone's family member runs for office after they've run for office, etc., that in itself won't make me not want to vote for them. It all comes down to who they are and who that family member is. And Don Jr. is nothing more than a slightly more intelligent and eloquent version of his father (whilst Eric is an even dumber version of his father).
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