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"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostI'd love to have more taxation for the rich in NZ and more enforcement of that.
As a salary worker in NZ, there's not much I can do to avoid tax, and not much tax workers could do to affect me. Me filing my tax returns was literally me logging into the website and seeing already listed my total income and total taxes paid on it, and clicking "okay", and that was it. Took less than 5 minutes.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostDo you honestly believe you'd require 87,000 new employees to audit "the rich"?
Do you work for the government there?"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIRS enforcement was previously recouping 12x the money spent on enforcement from people who weren't paying their taxes correctly. The Republicans, at the behest of their rich donors, went after the IRS enforcement viciously and almost completely gutted it, ensuring that the IRS did not have the resources to audit anyone who's taxes were complicated (ie. the rich donors). What very little enforcement was left was stuck auditing only poor people because they had simple tax returns. The Dems have been annoyed about this for some time, and want the rich people hiding their taxes to be properly audited again. So this bill tries to correct the Republican's previous sociopathy.That's what
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
You know nothing about how our IRS works. We have a cottage industry here that settles IRS debt for us poor schlubs in the middle class. The rich are routinely audited already, as are most large businesses. This is just Dems building their Stasi to squeeze every penny out of the middle class for their spending free for all.
The haggle session was quite unexpected. I had ignorantly claimed business miles on my taxes - at the same time I received a car allowance from my company. I was 25 at the time and didn't know. When the IRS told me I owed them (approximately) $800, I protested. I stomped my feet and threw a fit. Surprisingly, the agent came back and said it had been adjusted to $400-something. I still claimed I was being persecuted, and they actually lowered it to $257.00. I don't know how they came up with that. So I figured "Hey, I can haggle these guys down to zero!" So I tried all my protestations again. This time a supervisor came on the phone and said I will pay the $257 or he would bring it back to the original $800. I conceded at that point.
I never knew the IRS would haggle, though.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThis is just Dems building their Stasi to squeeze every penny out of the middle class for their spending free for all."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Zara View Post
Keen to see your evidence of this, cheers.
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Originally posted by Dimbilb View PostI would be the first to support moving taxation off the middle class and onto the rich.
The latest government data show that in 2018, the top 1% of income earners—those who earned more than $540,000—earned 21% of all U.S. income while paying 40% of all federal income taxes. The top 10% earned 48% of the income and paid 71% of federal income taxes.
Over time, high-income Americans have shouldered a larger and larger share of the cost of government. Even the 2017 tax cuts—reviled by the political left—reduced tax bills for the lowest-income Americans by 10% while only cutting taxes for the top 1% by 0.04%. After the tax cuts, the rich pay a larger—not smaller—share of income taxes.
In fact, by almost every measure, the U.S. has one of the most progressive systems of taxation in the world, in which high-income people pay the highest tax rates.
https://www.heritage.org/taxes/comme...rich-pay-taxes
Only the most myopic of liberals would believe that Joe's new army of armed IRS agents will be targeting the wealthy.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
The wealthiest Americans are already paying more than their fair share.
The latest government data show that in 2018, the top 1% of income earners—those who earned more than $540,000—earned 21% of all U.S. income while paying 40% of all federal income taxes. The top 10% earned 48% of the income and paid 71% of federal income taxes.
Over time, high-income Americans have shouldered a larger and larger share of the cost of government. Even the 2017 tax cuts—reviled by the political left—reduced tax bills for the lowest-income Americans by 10% while only cutting taxes for the top 1% by 0.04%. After the tax cuts, the rich pay a larger—not smaller—share of income taxes.
In fact, by almost every measure, the U.S. has one of the most progressive systems of taxation in the world, in which high-income people pay the highest tax rates.
https://www.heritage.org/taxes/comme...rich-pay-taxes
Only the most myopic of liberals would believe that Joe's new army of armed IRS agents will be targeting the wealthy.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
True (it was being done under Obama), but increasing their numbers is new, and the animosity between political parties is unprecedented.
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The qualifications needed to be an IRS agent in old Joe's America
I had a friend back in the 90s who was an IRS agent. He would beg me not to tell anyone because if folks know you become a social pariah. But this was back when what the IRS wanted were folks with experience in bookkeeping and accounting. You know, to do audits and stuff. I cannot even imagine Conrad dressed in all black, wearing body armor and carrying a rifle.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHave you seen their jobs posting and what they're looking for?
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The qualifications needed to be an IRS agent in old Joe's America
I had a friend back in the 90s who was an IRS agent. He would beg me not to tell anyone because if folks know you become a social pariah. But this was back when what the IRS wanted were folks with experience in bookkeeping and accounting. You know, to do audits and stuff. I cannot even imagine Conrad dressed in all black, wearing body armor and carrying a rifle.
For the record, here is a link to "Internal Revenue Agent" (Notice, the application uses USAjobs.gov, the official website for government jobs)
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
This picture reeks of manipulative posting. Notice, the picture doesn't have a full URL (just jobs.irs.gov). The picture doesn't list the actual job that those duties refer to. This means validating the picture is incredibly hard to do independently.
For the record, here is a link to "Internal Revenue Agent" (Notice, the application uses USAjobs.gov, the official website for government jobs)
Here's the current posting.
If you paste that into archive.org, you can find the original posting with "deadly force" language.
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Here's the actual listing:
https://www.jobs.irs.gov/resources/j...-special-agent
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My hunch is that they eliminated the bullet point about a willingness to use deadly force because it was drawing too much unwanted attention, but that requirement is still implied in what's left.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostHere's the actual listing:
https://www.jobs.irs.gov/resources/j...-special-agent
irs.jpg
My hunch is that they eliminated the bullet point about a willingness to use deadly force because it was drawing too much unwanted attention, but that requirement is still implied in what's left.
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