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  • #31
    Originally posted by Sparko View Post

    Isn't that the same as: If we are blaming Biden for the price of gas going up, then why doesn't he get the credit for it going down?
    It comes down to this: We can point to the exact policies that Joe implemented which resulted in skyrocketing gas prices -- he even boasted about it during his campaign and promised that we would all the feel the pain, but that it was for our own good as a necessary part of transitioning to the green energy scam. However, there is not a single policy of his that can account for the currently falling gas prices. On the contrary, we know exactly why prices have taken a dip because they take a similar dip at this same point annually: consumer spending habits. As the summer starts winding down and people are travelling less, demand for gasoline decreases, which results in lower prices (although prices are still up dramatically over the last couple of years).

    So, in the end, the rising prices had nothing to do with Putin, and the falling prices have nothing to do with Joe.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

      It comes down to this: We can point to the exact policies that Joe implemented which resulted in skyrocketing gas prices -- he even boasted about it during his campaign and promised that we would all the feel the pain, but that it was for our own good as a necessary part of transitioning to the green energy scam. However, there is not a single policy of his that can account for the currently falling gas prices. On the contrary, we know exactly why prices have taken a dip because they take a similar dip at this same point annually: consumer spending habits. As the summer starts winding down and people are travelling less, demand for gasoline decreases, which results in lower prices (although prices are still up dramatically over the last couple of years).

      So, in the end, the rising prices had nothing to do with Putin, and the falling prices have nothing to do with Joe.
      Putin's invasion of Ukraine most definitely had an adverse effect on gas prices.

      But only after old Joe's policies had already sent them through the roof.


      289685810_353675616902445_6093192667268710461_n.jpg
      Ironically prices have dropped back down to the level of when this graphic was made, and we're supposed to be happy.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        After Biden sleepwalked his way through 1.5 years of presidency, somehow a whole lot of wins for him have occurred in the last week or two, and a whole lot of losses for Trump. There's so many of each I thought a summary thread to aggregate them all is worth is.

        ...

        Inflation Reduction Act negotiated, containing a lot of climate-change stuff.
        I wish this one passed in New Zealand. Then you'd get 87,000 new tax workers to grind your income into dust. And did it occur to you that "climate-change stuff" has nothing to do with reducing inflation?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ronson View Post

          I wish this one passed in New Zealand. Then you'd get 87,000 new tax workers to grind your income into dust. And did it occur to you that "climate-change stuff" has nothing to do with reducing inflation?
          And was largely responsible for pushing fuel prices, the primary driver of inflation up. Inflation has leveled off this month (and it is hilarious how the left tries to gaslight us that there is no inflation now), based on a drop in gas prices. More Green New Deal stuff will end that.

          Now add the effect of having to print all of those hundreds of billions of dollars because we didn't have them, will have on inflation.

          One would think even hard core socialists could see the oncoming train wreck.

          Prediction: the onset of the consequences of passing this will take a couple months to really start taking effect. Right about election time. That means it has only begun to wreck the damage it caused so voters still won't really see the full impact at that point. As things get steadily worse, the MSM/Democrats (is there really a need to distinguish between them?) they will blame the Republicans in the House, and also the Senate if they manage to gain control there (currently I'm figuring the odds are 1-in-3), with the same sort of fervor as we saw unleashed against Trump.


          ETA: and that oncoming train wreck will be called "unforeseen" by the usual suspects
          Last edited by rogue06; 08-11-2022, 03:25 PM.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ronson View Post

            I wish this one passed in New Zealand. Then you'd get 87,000 new tax workers to grind your income into dust. And did it occur to you that "climate-change stuff" has nothing to do with reducing inflation?
            87,000 new tax workers with their own militia and who are armed to the teeth.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by seanD View Post

              87,000 new tax workers with their own militia and who are armed to the teeth.
              That is weird. Unless the IRS is hiring trained agents, the guns and ammo it possesses is extraordinary. These guys are mostly paper pushers and accountants.

              PREPARE TO BE AUDITED ... OR ELSE

              audit.jpg

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                That is weird. Unless the IRS is hiring trained agents, the guns and ammo it possesses is extraordinary. These guys are mostly paper pushers and accountants.

                PREPARE TO BE AUDITED ... OR ELSE

                audit.jpg
                IIRC, they have been stockpiling weapons for years.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  IIRC, they have been stockpiling weapons for years.
                  True (it was being done under Obama), but increasing their numbers is new, and the animosity between political parties is unprecedented.

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                  • #39
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                      Never forget.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                        I wish this one passed in New Zealand. Then you'd get 87,000 new tax workers to grind your income into dust.
                        I'd love to have more taxation for the rich in NZ and more enforcement of that.

                        As a salary worker in NZ, there's not much I can do to avoid tax, and not much tax workers could do to affect me. Me filing my tax returns was literally me logging into the website and seeing already listed my total income and total taxes paid on it, and clicking "okay", and that was it. Took less than 5 minutes.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Putin's invasion of Ukraine most definitely had an adverse effect on gas prices.

                          But only after old Joe's policies had already sent them through the roof.
                          Your graphic fundamentally wrongly implies that Biden was in any meaningful level of control of international oil prices. All countries in the world saw prices spike and then drop. It wasn't a US thing.

                          And even with a US framework your graphic lies by omission. It doesn't list any of the many things Biden did that might have had a lowering effect on gas prices, e.g. granting more permits for drilling on federal land in his first year in office than Trump did in his first year; Releasing oil from the strategic reserve, etc, etc. If it's going to pretend to assume a causal relationship between Biden's actions and the gas prices, it needs to include all of Biden's relevant actions, not merely ones that fit its false narrative.
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            So inflation didn't get worse and that's "zero inflation?"
                            No.

                            Prices went up by zero in July. That's zero inflation.

                            Inflation did not occur during the month of July. There was none.

                            It's not that it remained at the same levels as before. It's that it dropped to zero.

                            Hopefully you can understand some of that.

                            It's like falling out of an airplane without a parachute and then cheering when you reach terminal velocity "Look! We aren't falling faster any more! Zero Acceleration!"
                            No.

                            It wasn't zero acceleration. It wasn't zero rate of change in inflation. It was zero actual inflation. Zero speed.

                            It was the parachute suddenly working 100% in your analogy. It was like a person who had been falling at speed suddenly not falling at all.
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              he even boasted about it during his campaign and promised that we would all the feel the pain, but that it was for our own good as a necessary part of transitioning to the green energy scam.
                              You never did provide a citation for this part of your claims last time I asked you to. Yet here you are repeating it. Please show us some quotes, if you can, of:
                              Biden, during his campaign:
                              1. Promising that we would all feel the pain of high gas prices
                              2. And saying that it was for our own good as a necessary part of transitioning to green energy

                              Because it sure looks to me like an utter falsehood that you are totally making up and I sincerely doubt Biden ever said anything of the sort.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                I'd love to have more taxation for the rich in NZ and more enforcement of that.
                                Do you honestly believe you'd require 87,000 new employees to audit "the rich"? There aren't that many "rich" in the US, but there's plenty of middle-class voters that don't vote for Democrats. There's your target.

                                As a salary worker in NZ, there's not much I can do to avoid tax, and not much tax workers could do to affect me. Me filing my tax returns was literally me logging into the website and seeing already listed my total income and total taxes paid on it, and clicking "okay", and that was it. Took less than 5 minutes.
                                Do you work for the government there?

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