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  • Originally posted by seanD View Post

    One thing I can't stand is a phony like you. Better? Now what will that accomplish?
    So you can't back it up. No shocker there.

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    • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
      You're getting confused - you have a lot of people you're arguing with, so it's understandable. But I literally said in my first p[ost this wasn't an issue, it was just bad optics.

      Using a magistrate instead of a judge is worse optics. Legal, sure. Smart? Politically, no.
      Ok fair enough, yes, I've been dealing with a lot of people, including people obsessed with epstein for some reason. My bad.


      I've only seen some video clearly showing evening. However, the FBI was onsite for 9 to 10 hours collecting all of fifteen boxes they supposedly knew the location of. Could be I saw later video.
      They served the warrant at 9 AM (and collected 12 boxes - the 15 boxes were the ones that Trump actually sent in February to the Archives in which classified documents were found).

      You could have just given the actual time of the raid, unless of course it wasn't in the day time or you'd just rather be nasty.
      9AM.

      Anti-trump cultist is still a cultist. You're doing that thing again.
      I'm neither anti-trump nor pro-trump. I just think he's a jackass, and doesn't care about the law, and now he got caught and his followers are freaking out and lashing out at anyone that dares to suggest that it was anything other than a witch hunt (and one is now dead after trying to murder FBI agents due to the rhetoric his cult leader pushed).


      Translation: you didn't understand the objection. Or you think a magistrate is on par with a judge despite my giving you an overview link.

      You really are an idiot. How many times do you have to be wrong before you figure it out?
      Lawl.

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      • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post

        Great - already answered because you didn't just do this to begin with.
        I shouldn't have to, given that the news broke at like midday with Trump's angry tweets, it was very clear the raid happened earlier that day.

        So, I WASN'T wrong - the video I saw did show evening. But you weren't wrong either, the raid started MUCH earlier and evidently the FBI tore the place apart over presidential documents.
        The video you saw, if you saw evening, was of local police who were brought in to deal with Trump cultist protests at the property.
        Something they DIDN'T do to Obama
        Do to Obama for what? There's plenty of things that should have been done to Obama. I'm unsure what you're referring to.
        - but you're an Obama shill, right?
        No, I despised Obama and think he should have faced war crime charges in international court for his hospital bombing and his double tap drone strikes.

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        • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post

          Obama
          Source

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          • Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

            Conversely, if Trump hadn’t kept stacks of them, NARA wouldn’t have had any reason to go after Trump. They should never have left the White House, and they definitely shouldn’t still be trying to recover them a year and a half later.

            There’s more news dropping about the classified materials they were seeking, but it’s so sensational I want to let it boil down a bit before mentioning anything. If it’s right, other sources will confirm it soon enough.
            I've been on record in this thread saying that if Trump had indeed kept classified documents and refused to surrender them, he should be in jail beside Hillary. Personally, I chuckle at some of the things they consider classified, but that's a personal beef, not a professional one.
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

              Well, for one, there's your usual distain for law enforcement in every other thread contrasted with you kissing the feet of the demonstrably corrupt FBI in this thread. But I guess that's only because they're going after a politician you seem to hate more than cops. A case of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", perhaps?
              Now see, that's your strawman that you're basing your accusation off of. I've been quite clear I have disdain for incompetent and bad police. There's no evidence of any incompetence or bad police here. Indeed, I've been on record supporting police who behave correctly and defending those wrongfully accused - hell, I was the first person on the forum to post about the cop who shot Makiah Bryant and defended him for his actions.

              The only 'inconsistency' is between me in reality, and me in your personal strawman you've constructed of me because I made you mad by disagreeing with you in cases involving bad cops.

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              • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                I've been on record in this thread saying that if Trump had indeed kept classified documents and refused to surrender them, he should be in jail beside Hillary. Personally, I chuckle at some of the things they consider classified, but that's a personal beef, not a professional one.
                Don’t even get me started. The hours in Nuclear Power School I spent stamping classifications top and bottom of every page of my notebooks only to find every single damn thing I learned in that school was taught openly in physics classes in college. The piglet couldn’t come up with an example of actual secrets, either.

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                • Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                  Don’t even get me started. The hours in Nuclear Power School I spent stamping classifications top and bottom of every page of my notebooks only to find every single damn thing I learned in that school was taught openly in physics classes in college. The piglet couldn’t come up with an example of actual secrets, either.
                  I spent over a year in the Airborn Command Post school at Keesler. I know your pain. I had a permanent stain on my hand from that stamp ink.
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                    According to his LAWYER, she was given - 'handed' - a copy of the warrant and the list, as is legal procedure, by the FBI themselves. Your boys at Fox lied, and your 'witnesses on the scene' lied. Eric Trump lied.
                    Did she say when in that alleged video you say you say saw and more when did you see the video what is the date and time on it. Show us the video. Until I see it I will have to go with what I saw this morning where she said they received the warrant and inventory list no mention of it happening on Monday.

                    I was also watching an interview on Monday where his lawyer said the FBI did not hand her said documents. So until you post your video there is no proof that Eric lied on Monday to the foxnews person about the FBI not giving them the said documents intact all the evidence I have seen is on Trumps side. If you do not post the video we are under no obligation to believe that it shows what you say it does.

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                    • I assume Bill deleted that post upon realizing I was asking for a source for the claim that Obama had taken home classidied, etc. documents and not for a source talking about using something during his presidency to keep documents from being available to the public?

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                      • Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post

                        Did she say when in that alleged video you say you say saw
                        Yes, she says they handed her the warrant and list when they were done with their search onMonday.

                        and more when did you see the video what is the date and time on it.
                        Today and yesterday.

                        Show us the video.
                        I already linked it to MM

                        Until I see it I will have to go with what I saw this morning where she said they received the warrant and inventory list no mention of it happening on Monday.

                        I was also watching an interview on Monday where his lawyer said the FBI did not hand her said documents.
                        Well then,I will similarly demand you post this interview on Monday that you claim exists.

                        So until you post your video there is no proof that Eric lied on Monday to the foxnews person about the FBI not giving them the said documents intact all the evidence I have seen is on Trumps side. If you do not post the video we are under no obligation to believe that it shows what you say it does.
                        I already posted a link to the video.

                        Here it is again, in an even fuller form: https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/sta...84936759693312

                        She says it at around 0:55

                        Eric Trump lied and somebody died.
                        Last edited by Gondwanaland; 08-11-2022, 08:45 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                          Now see, that's your strawman that you're basing your accusation off of. I've been quite clear I have disdain for incompetent and bad police. There's no evidence of any incompetence or bad police here. Indeed, I've been on record supporting police who behave correctly and defending those wrongfully accused - hell, I was the first person on the forum to post about the cop who shot Makiah Bryant and defended him for his actions.

                          The only 'inconsistency' is between me in reality, and me in your personal strawman you've constructed of me because I made you mad by disagreeing with you in cases involving bad cops.
                          The FBI are as corrupt as they come, but you don't seem to care, because you apparently despise Trump more than you despise corrupt cops.

                          Like I said, I don't think you even realize you're being inconsistent.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            The FBI are as corrupt as they come
                            Unsurprising given every single FBI head in nearly 100 years has been Republican. Never has a single Democrat served as director of the FBI.

                            When Democratic presidents have had occasion to appoint FBI directors, they have always chosen to appoint Republicans to the position to try and appease Republicans and show that they're tough on crime. Have Republicans ever given them any credit for this? Would Republicans ever do the same for Democrats?
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                              The FBI are as corrupt as they come, but you don't seem to care, because you apparently despise Trump more than you despise corrupt cops.
                              I can walk and chew gum at the same time.
                              Like I said, I don't think you even realize you're being inconsistent.
                              I'm quite certain corruption exists in the FBI. But have seen no evidence of the agents in this case being corrupt. If you want to name some of the agents that served the warrant and show a history or evidence of corruption of some of the agents involved, then I'd be more likely to side with you here. There's nothing inconsistent about that. Thanks though for correcting your untruth.
                              Last edited by Gondwanaland; 08-11-2022, 08:47 PM.

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                              • WaPo is now reporting that one of the items being searched for was classified documents relating to nuclear weapons.
                                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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