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  • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

    More bluntly, I wouldn't put it past the FBI to plant evidence they just happen to find.
    Especially since they wouldn't allow Bad Orange Man's lawyers to record or even observe their activities.
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    • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      I am thinking this is probably a fishing expedition related to Jan 6. They are using "classified documents" as an excuse to grab everything they can find, so they can dig through it all and see if they can find anything they can prosecute Trump on at all, including Jan 6. They wouldn't have been able to get a warrant that wide normally but by claiming there are classified documents they can go in and grab everything to go through later and maybe just maybe find something they can use against Trump.
      This morning on ABC's Good Morning America, the network's chief legal analyst, Dan Abrams, was asked by co-host George Stephanopoulos if there might be more to it than the FBI has indicated. Abrams agreed that is the case saying that "there has to be something more than just a Presidential Records Act violation."

      And on CBS Mornings today, their Chief Washington correspondent, Major Garrett, observed that what "we don't have is very much transparency from the Justice Department or the FBI" and that "We don't know what the underlying facts are. We haven’t seen the affidavit. We haven't seen the search warrant."

      At CNN, their legal analyst Paul Callan was on At This Hour was asked by a fill-in co-host that if "this becomes a Presidential Records Act violation, not more, do you think it is enough to warrant all this?" Callan responded

      "It's not enough to warrant all of this. And this is a daring and dangerous move by the Department of Justice to serve a warrant on a former President and to raid his personal residence."


      He went on to speculate that there must be more behind the raid. Something "a lot more serious."

      Even over on NBC’s Today, Justice correspondent Ken Dilanian pointed out

      Normally, if an ex-president has documents he shouldn’t have, the government would simply ask for them back. This move suggests something broke down in a big way between Trump and the Archives and that these documents may have contained some very sensitive information.



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      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

        The judge who approved this warrant for the raid has ties to Jeffrey Epstein according to Fox news.
        Also according to Miranda Devine et al at NY Post.
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        • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

          Agreed.

          As this seems to be related to his violations of the Presidential Records Act, I doubt this was come about lightly.
          What violations? Trump has a letter from the national archives whom he and hi people have been cooperating with for 9 months thanking him for his cooperation and the 12 boxes,he gave them after they went to Mars largo to go through the boxes of documents he took with him when he left the white house in fact the gave him hi praise for his preservation of said documents. What reason does the FBI have to even suspect a violation of the Presidential Records Act. The more information that is coming out is leading to at best over reach on the FBI's part if not the Democrats are and have been weaponizing the DOJ and FBI against their opponents.

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          • Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

            Especially since they wouldn't allow Bad Orange Man's lawyers to record or even observe their activities.
            Well, isn't that interesting. Guess that debunks Gond's argument this was all done on the up-and-up. Do you have a source for that?

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            • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              So can we start calling Gond "bootlicker" now?
              It's funny to see Mr. Cops R De Debbil defending the honor of the FBI.
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              • Originally posted by seanD View Post

                Well, isn't that interesting. Guess that debunks Gond's argument this was all done on the up-and-up. Do you have a source for that?
                None Gondo or any other FBI apologist would respect.
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                • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                  Maybe Corona messed up your sense of time but Comey was fired in May 2017. Trump was impeached first in December 2019. In addition, neither impeachment was over Comey's firing. Those excuses don't add up.
                  “The Department of Justice has authorized me to confirm” the existence of a broader investigation into potential collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, Comey said. “We’re not going to say another word about it until we’re done.”

                  James Comey, May 3, 2017. The beginning of the Mueller investigation and the impeachment that came out of it. My memory is fine. Trump was handicapped by the response to the Comey firing and the subsequent Mueller investigation
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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    The FBI are supremely competent bad guys, which is what makes them so dangerous.
                    Do you agree with MTG that they should be defunded?

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                    • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                      Honeypie, Hillary should be in jail. Your boy Trump had 4 years to accomplish that and did nothing. Because he behaves just like her.


                      "If the FBI could do stuff like this" what stuff? Executing a legal search warrant on someone who broke the law and took boxes of documents to his home after leaving office? Including classified documents? That stuff?

                      I'm sure they could try but they'd not be able to obtain a warrant as I dont come into contact with such documents nor have I been caught red handed with them.
                      Ignoring your condescending tone.

                      ​​​​​​So you agree the FBI let Hillary get away with a crime. And no Trump did not have 4 years how could he when he and his team were having to fight the false accusations coming from the Democrats who had the help of the upper Echelon in the FBI who went so far in the case of carter page falsify an e-mail from a top CIA official to make it seem as if Carter page was not the American asset that the CIA told them he was,btw the attorney who falsified said email is still working for the FBI.

                      As for whether it was a legal search warrant that remains to be seen judging by the facts that are coming out see the video in Seand's post it is not looking good for the FBI especially since as I mentioned in my previous post Trump has a letter from the National Archives telling him he does not need to do anything else after 9 months of cooperating with them. In case you need it it is post #124.
                      Last edited by RumTumTugger; 08-09-2022, 04:53 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by seanD View Post
                        Turley's perspective...



                        My key point takeway: the apparent fact no one knows how the FBI knew the specific docs they were after were there. And then they give examples showing a two-tiered justice system that is clearly politically motivated. As an aside 11:50, Lawrence Jones dropped a truth bomb about the history of the FBI that I don't think Fox News appreciated all that much, being the typical FBI bootlickers they are. I thought that was kind of interesting.
                        His written article on the matter.
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                        • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Do you agree with MTG that they should be defunded?

                          DefundFBI.JPG
                          I agree with the pundit -- and I've seen and heard so many belching their opinions that I don't recall who it was -- who opined that we need something similar to the "Church committee" or "Church commission" to thoroughly examine the FBI and DOJ, and hopefully break them into tiny pieces.

                          But yeah, "defund" is good too. Also for the IRS. And the CDC.
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                          Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                          Justice for Matthew Perna!

                          Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                          • Andy McCarthy's take at NY Post.

                            His main point: Whatever the FBI *claims* it was about, their real goal is to find something useful for the J6 stuff.
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                            Beige Federalist.

                            Nationalist Christian.

                            "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                            Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                            Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                            Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                            Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                            Justice for Matthew Perna!

                            Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                            • Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

                              I agree with the pundit -- and I've seen and heard so many belching their opinions that I don't recall who it was -- who opined that we need something similar to the "Church committee" or "Church commission" to thoroughly examine the FBI and DOJ, and hopefully break them into tiny pieces.

                              But yeah, "defund" is good too. Also for the IRS. And the CDC.
                              I've never studied the history of the FBI, but I'm hearing it was created during Prohibition to combat bootlegging and the organized crime behind it. Since that is no longer a concern, the FBI serves no purpose. Not only defund it, but eliminate it.

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                              • Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post

                                Ignoring your condescending tone.

                                ​​​​​​So you agree the FBI let Hillary get away with a crime. And no Trump did not have 4 years how could he when he and his team were having to fight the false accusations coming from the Democrats who had the help of the upper Echelon in the FBI who went so far in the case of carter page falsify an e-mail from a top CIA official to make it seem as if Carter page was not the American asset that the CIA told them he was,btw the attorney who falsified said email is still working for the FBI.

                                As for whether it was a legal search warrant that remains to be seen judging by the facts that are coming out see the video in Seand's post it is not looking good for the FBI especially since as I mentioned in my previous post Trump has a letter from the National Archives telling him he does not need to do anything else after 9 months of cooperating with them. In case you need it it is post #124.
                                Unless I'm mistaken, many presidents take home correspondence between themselves and world leaders for their presidential libraries. The only person necessary to "declassify" such correspondence in the president himself, which he can do when leaving office.

                                The entire premise here is obvious partisan machinations. Even Mike Pence (no friend of Trump anymore) has come out to denounce it because of the frightening precedence it sets.

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