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  • #16
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Since the unborn don't have the capacity to have the emotion of sadness, it isn't a sad day for them.
    Interesting assertion. So if I knock you out and then slit your throat, it wouldn't be sad for you because at that point in time you don't have the capacity to have the emotion of sadness.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
      Since the unborn don't have the capacity to have the emotion of sadness, it isn't a sad day for them.
      Those of us with compassion are sad on their behalf.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        Those of us with compassion are sad on their behalf.
        Seems a bit like being sad for a field of wheat when it's harvested. But if you want to, I guess you can be.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Seems a bit like being sad for a field of wheat when it's harvested. But if you want to, I guess you can be.
          Ah, so nobody should be sad when a forest is cut down. Glad to know.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post

            Where? I couldn't find one so I started this one.
            I coulda sworn that KG started one but it was a post in the States that prohibit abortion thread

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Seems a bit like being sad for a field of wheat when it's harvested. But if you want to, I guess you can be.
              Is anybody surprised that the guy who advocates for allowing babies to be "aborted" several weeks AFTER being born likens humans dying to being nothing more than wheat being harvested.


              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Is anybody surprised that the guy who advocates for allowing babies to be "aborted" several weeks AFTER being born likens humans dying to being nothing more than wheat being harvested.
                Well hopefully people are not too surprised given I've repeatedly explained that it's the lack of mental development in the fetuses that puts them outside the moral sphere. In the same way, plants are outside the moral sphere due to their lack of mental development.

                One of the amusing things on this forum is how much the people like you, with entirely broken moral compasses, think you are in a position to try to lecture moral philosophers like myself on the subject, when sitting down shutting up and learning would be the more sane approach by you. But don't worry, I won't hold my breath.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  ? I'm suggesting that this vote will change the way Dems campaign from today onwards. Of course that hasn't effected polling yet because it hasn't started happening.

                  Where? I couldn't find one so I started this one.
                  Some interesting final comments from John Cassidy's article on the Kansas result in this week's New Yorker magazine.

                  https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...-for-democrats

                  Whatever happens in November, the long-term consequences of the Roe decision could be highly consequential. For decades, the Republican Party has largely owned and exploited the language of individual liberty and freedom, even as many of its policies have favored the rich and powerful— from gunmakers to Big Pharma and Wall Street—over individual middle-class Americans. This cynical strategy has paid big dividends for the G.O.P., but Senator Murphy is right. With the overturn of Roe, and efforts to ban any transgressions against fundamentalist views, the zealots of the Supreme Court and the conservative base are presenting Democrats with an opportunity to seize the mantle as the defenders of long-established individual rights.

                  The freedom to make one’s own decisions about reproduction and health. The freedom to vote. The freedom to choose one’s dating and life partners. The freedom to hold elections without worrying about an authoritarian putsch. The freedom to send one’s kids to school without fear of a madman armed with an AR-15. These are all rights that the vast majority of Americans cherish, and the radicalized G.O.P. of Alito, Thomas, Trump, and Masters is threatening them. Freedom is a many-sided thing, and no political party has a monopoly on it. Democrats should stake their claim now.
                  "It ain't necessarily so
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                  It ain't necessarily so
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                    Seems a bit like being sad for a field of wheat when it's harvested. But if you want to, I guess you can be.
                    Well, you see, a field of wheat is not an innocent human life.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #25
                      Surprising result from Kansas, of all places- though I also hear it was due to a high youth turn out. My hope is all those new young voters, seeing the actual power they have, continue to vote.
                      All pushback against this rising authoritarianism is to be welcomed, hopefully it carried through to the midterms.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
                        Surprising result from Kansas, of all places- though I also hear it was due to a high youth turn out. My hope is all those new young voters, seeing the actual power they have, continue to vote.
                        All pushback against this rising authoritarianism is to be welcomed, hopefully it carried through to the midterms.
                        Yes, more dead babies is a good thing in your world...
                        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          you, with entirely broken moral compasses, think you are in a position to try to lecture moral philosophers like myself on the subject, when sitting down shutting up and learning would be the more sane approach by you. But don't worry, I won't hold my breath.
                          I almost spit out my morning coffee I laughed so hard...A self proclaimed 'moral realist' who can not even articulate that position. Could not present one universal moral fact that is not dependent on human subjectivity...
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by seer View Post

                            Yes, more dead babies is a good thing in your world...
                            What dead babies? The thread is about Kansas voting on abortion rights.

                            And as I said, I'm glad there's some pushback, I just hope it carries through to the midterms for their sake.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by EvoUK View Post

                              What dead babies? The thread is about Kansas voting on abortion rights.

                              And as I said, I'm glad there's some pushback, I just hope it carries through to the midterms for their sake.
                              Yes the right to kill your unborn child...
                              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by seer View Post

                                Yes the right to kill your unborn child...
                                I'm surprised you didn't add in 'innocent' for the full emotive language bingo.

                                Obviously I know your anti-abortion arguments back to front as I've shown previously (opposed to you who were unable to do the same for pro-choice arguments, despite literally years of experience on here), but even so I don't see a reason to let purposefully clouding emotive language pass unmentioned.

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