Appeals Court up holds the stay preventing the Trump Immigration ban

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What percentage of the population were the terrorists who blew up the world trade center?

0.0000% I believe. I believe they were all on tourist visas, so no US population estimates would count them as US residents.

Look at Europe and England who are being swamped with Muslims and who are now starting to demand special treatment and wanting to impose their beliefs on others.

Eh? When a single Western European country implements Sharia Law, you'll have a point. Don't hold your breath though. It seems to me you're just hyperventilating over completely implausible fantasies.

How do you think Islam spreads? Once they have enough muslims in an area, they take over.

Do you understand the difference between 5% of the population and 50%?

My point was why do liberals want to coddle Muslims who are a hundred times more "conservative" than the most right wing Christian? They make us look like liberals. You all do everything you can to put down Christians, make us follow your ideals, shut down our beliefs, and you want to welcome in a group that is worse than we are and have a history of violence and revolution?

You've heard of "hate the sin, love the sinner" right? Do you get that I can welcome them as people and be nice to them as people, while rolling on the floor laughing at their silly and ridiculous beliefs?

I believe in the superior truthfulness and appeal of my beliefs over theirs. In a contest of ideas, mine will win. So when they come and live in my country, I have no serious worries about what their kids will grow up to believe. Their kids will grow up to see the silliness of their parent's beliefs and take in the culture of my country and adopt my beliefs. And their kids' kids will do so even more so. I have no fear about a small number of people coming into my country who believe ridiculous things because I believe that our education system and our culture will teach their children sensible things.

I am just pointing out the ironic hypocrisy in liberals fighting conservative Christians while welcoming muslims.

There are Muslims here - they constitute 1% of the population here like they do in the US. And the one thing I have never seen them do is try to publicly impose their religious views on anyone else via politics. Whereas nominal Christians (i.e. people who write on the census that they are 'Christian') constitute ~50% of the population, and actual practicing Christians (i.e. who believe enough to attend church) constitute ~10% of the population, and one thing I have seen them do is try to publicly impose their religious views on others via politics.

So as far as I am concerned the Muslims and Christians here both hold stupid and silly beliefs, but the Muslims are an order of magnitude smaller in number so are an order of magnitude less threatening, and the Muslims have never tried to impose their views on me whereas the Christians have. Gee, I must be insane to find the one more threatening than the other.

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0.0000% I believe. I believe they were all on tourist visas, so no US population estimates would count them as US residents.

In your new immigration advice thread weren't you just arguing that Trump was wrong because he stopped tourist visas? And I believe some of them where here on work or school visas.

The point is, it doesn't take very many terrorists to cause a lot of damage. So your arguing that the actual number of potential terrorist is really small, really is non sequitur.