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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
    All weird earth cities should be renamed to something in English, because English is the easiest for me to pronounce. And that especially goes for Wales!
    You mean to tell me you can't pronounce a simple name like Llanfairpwllgwyngyll?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      Now star can correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that Aotearoa was what the Māori living on the North Island called that island and it didn't extend to the South Island which was called something else by its Māori inhabitants.
      People here in NZ virtue signaling with respect to Maori tends to really grind my gears and Maori-related issues are pretty much the only things I'm straight-out conservative on. Yes, one of their latest annoying ideas is to change the country name. There's no chance it would get majority support but it winds people up (me included).

      BTW the accepted phrasing is that people live "in" the North Island not "on" it, same as you live "in" the US not "on" it.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

        You mean to tell me you can't pronounce a simple name like Llanfairpwllgwyngyll?
        That's the abbreviated name, according to wiki. Full name is: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll


        The irony is I have Welsh in me from both sides of my family, have Welsh friends, and visited there twice. I still find the whole thing perplexing.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          People here in NZ virtue signaling with respect to Maori tends to really grind my gears and Maori-related issues are pretty much the only things I'm straight-out conservative on. Yes, one of their latest annoying ideas is to change the country name. There's no chance it would get majority support but it winds people up (me included).

          BTW the accepted phrasing is that people live "in" the North Island not "on" it, same as you live "in" the US not "on" it.
          Thanks for the rather surprising reply.

          Just watching the race to rename things, I don't think you should be surprised if y'all have a different name by 2030.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            People here in NZ virtue signaling with respect to Maori tends to really grind my gears and Maori-related issues are pretty much the only things I'm straight-out conservative on. Yes, one of their latest annoying ideas is to change the country name. There's no chance it would get majority support but it winds people up (me included).

            BTW the accepted phrasing is that people live "in" the North Island not "on" it, same as you live "in" the US not "on" it.
            Ah, so you and Donald Trump are kindred spirits after all. He bristled at the idea that "Mount McKinley" had been renamed "Denali" to appease the aboriginal faction.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ronson View Post
              All weird earth cities should be renamed to something in English, because English is the easiest for me to pronounce. And that especially goes for Wales!
              Nein! Deutch.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Thanks for the rather surprising reply.
                The state of race relations here is in a very different place compared to the US. In some ways the Maori here are comparable to Native Americans and/or African Americans, but in other ways they are not.

                They were never treated remotely as brutally as those groups in the US, reparations have since been paid for what damage was done, and they have an entrenched political advantage within the democratic system that has made them arbiters of their outcomes of a few recent elections. However they remain overrepresented in the crime statistics and remain a poorly-off socioeconomic group.

                As a progressive I am happy that the poor be helped, and I have no issues with targeted support for a disadvantaged group (e.g. Maori). I am fine with government spending and social programs in their general direction.

                However, there is the bizarre belief among some that cultural appropriation is key, and that if only more white people speak a few phrases of Maori in corporate meetings with other white people, then somehow Maori people would stop getting drunk and beating their wives or something. The 'logic' of it, if there is any, eludes me, but there is a strong push for more use of and teaching of the Maori language and for white people to learn about Maori culture. I remain mystified as to what anyone thinks is the value of this is, or how it is supposed to improve anything.
                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  The state of race relations here is in a very different place compared to the US. In some ways the Maori here are comparable to Native Americans and/or African Americans, but in other ways they are not.

                  They were never treated remotely as brutally as those groups in the US, reparations have since been paid for what damage was done, and they have an entrenched political advantage within the democratic system that has made them arbiters of their outcomes of a few recent elections. However they remain overrepresented in the crime statistics and remain a poorly-off socioeconomic group.

                  As a progressive I am happy that the poor be helped, and I have no issues with targeted support for a disadvantaged group (e.g. Maori). I am fine with government spending and social programs in their general direction.

                  However, there is the bizarre belief among some that cultural appropriation is key, and that if only more white people speak a few phrases of Maori in corporate meetings with other white people, then somehow Maori people would stop getting drunk and beating their wives or something. The 'logic' of it, if there is any, eludes me, but there is a strong push for more use of and teaching of the Maori language and for white people to learn about Maori culture. I remain mystified as to what anyone thinks is the value of this is, or how it is supposed to improve anything.
                  The behavior you describe in the last paragraph sounds like nothing more than a form of virtue signaling which is always an empty gesture. All they are doing is showing they "stand with" the cause of the moment, and then continue on with their day because nothing was changed by their gesture.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                    It'll be good for the pull down map industry though!!
                    Do they still exist?
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                      Do they still exist?
                      Globes have pretty much turned into decorative ornaments

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        People here in NZ virtue signaling with respect to Maori tends to really grind my gears and Maori-related issues are pretty much the only things I'm straight-out conservative on. Yes, one of their latest annoying ideas is to change the country name. There's no chance it would get majority support but it winds people up (me included).

                        BTW the accepted phrasing is that people live "in" the North Island not "on" it, same as you live "in" the US not "on" it.
                        I'm sure it started as only a tiny, tiny, tiny minority, but has ended up where it is. It's also pretty clear you see this as a bad idea.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Globes have pretty much turned into decorative ornaments
                          I have been trying to find a giant map of our city (4'x6') for planning, but have come up empty. In the old days, I had no problem at all finding a nice large map for even smaller cities.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                            I have been trying to find a giant map of our city (4'x6') for planning, but have come up empty. In the old days, I had no problem at all finding a nice large map for even smaller cities.
                            It is easy to find maps of cities.

                            Finding one that is current might be a bit more tricky

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              It is easy to find maps of cities.

                              Finding one that is current might be a bit more tricky
                              Yes, I can find plenty of offers for a map of my city in the early 1900s.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                                I have been trying to find a giant map of our city (4'x6') for planning, but have come up empty. In the old days, I had no problem at all finding a nice large map for even smaller cities.
                                https://www.alvipixels.co.uk/blog/tu...le-map-300dpi/ (Once you get your digital map to the correct size, I would go by a banner printing shop in the area to get a good printout).

                                The problem is you are now in a digital world, so those old large style maps have been replaced by digital tools, whether you prefer them that way or not.


                                Another option I found:
                                Source: https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-copy-and-print-large-high-resolution-maps-using-Google-Earth-or-any-other-tool-to-create-a-wall-sized-map


                                I caution that is most likely expressly forbidden by Google, but for curiosity’s sake you could use this embed trick do create large images:

                                1. Navigate to the center of the area you wish to print, and zoom to the desired level
                                2. From the side menu chose “Share or Embed”. Click “Embed”. Within that line of code find the dimensions of the iFrame code and change them to something ridiculous e.g. 6000 x 4500

                                3. Copy that code into the body of new html file

                                4. Open that file in Chrome

                                5. Use a full page screen capture tool (I think there is one by that same name, not an endorsement) to save that image.

                                6. My demo file came out at 12016 × 9032px and 174mb, which should be more than enough. If not, make those original dimensions bigger.

                                © Copyright Original Source



                                And another option found in the cited link above:
                                http://www.chengfolio.com/google_map_customizer
                                Last edited by CivilDiscourse; 07-28-2022, 07:24 AM.

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