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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    You are asking the kinds of questions one would ask of a cogent human being, my friend.

    I think he's just trying so hard to get somebody to approve of him, and he's pretty well narrowed that down to the extreme loony left.

    Heck, he's even lost Starlight!
    We would have to assume he was going off script. Being that our domestic issues are none of Europe's business (abortion having absolutely no consequence to Europe's interests), to me it looks like he's expressing to a foreign ally how he's going to defeat his political enemies back in America. That kind of looks bizarre.

    I guess I would have to see the presser itself to get a good gauge of the context. Maybe he was asked the question.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

      You are asking the kinds of questions one would ask of a cogent human being, my friend.

      I think he's just trying so hard to get somebody to approve of him, and he's pretty well narrowed that down to the extreme loony left.

      Heck, he's even lost Starlight!
      Picklemegrandmother!

      Do tell.
      1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
      Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by seanD View Post

        We would have to assume he was going off script. Being that our domestic issues are none of Europe's business (abortion having absolutely no consequence to Europe's interests), to me it looks like he's expressing to a foreign ally how he's going to defeat his political enemies back in America. That kind of looks bizarre.

        I guess I would have to see the presser itself to get a good gauge of the context. Maybe he was asked the question.
        You've seen Biden - he could have been asked "Do you think Russia will press beyond Ukraine" and Biden could go off on a "our economy is the strongest in the world, and inflation is lower than any other country in the universe, and the Supreme Court is a corrupt organization that needs to...."

        I actually saw the Presser wasn't paying much attention, so I don't recall how it actually evolved.

        In response to a question asking him about what he would tell people, including other world leaders who think America is “going in the wrong direction,” Biden laid hefty blame on the Supreme Court’s monumental decision.

        In a video – posted to Twitter by NewsBusters managing editor Curtis Houck – Biden responded, stating, “The one thing that has been destabilizing is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of the United States in overruling not only Roe v. Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy.”

        “We’ve been a leader in the world in terms of personal rights and privacy rights, and it is a mistake in my view for the Supreme Court to do what it did,” he declared.


        Actually, here's the question, and Biden's bird-brained response, filled with demonstrably false claims...

        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by seanD View Post

          Win back the base in Europe?
          This isn't quite as crazy as it should be - but it's a decade or more out of date. His base used to be more Eurocentric.

          At the moment it's just a floundering admin taking advantage of any cameras it can get in front of that don't involve any pesky questions.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by seanD View Post
            I'm wondering why Mr. Braindead feels compelled to spout this off at a NATO conference, as if it's their business what we do in our own country.
            The decision has been a topic of interest in many allied countries, and led to protests against the ruling and in favor of looser abortion laws.

            e.g. Today: Thousands descend on Sydney [and] Melbourne in protest of US abortion ruling.

            https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Fef9f275e-17c2-4a0d-b616-b0db1b2463c6.jpg

            Yesterday in New Zealand: Angry outpour at Roe v Wade Solidarity Protest in Wellington

            1656661244578.jpg?format=pjpg&optimize=medium.jpg

            It's having political fallout here because politicians are having to go on the record as to what the views of themselves and their parties on abortion are, and those giving answers supporting the US decision are paying a political price for it.

            In the context of the international response to the ruling, it's appropriate for Joe Biden to speak to the ruling at a meeting of his allies like NATO, even if it's just to say "Sorry about all the protests in your countries this has triggered. I'm sure you already know the Republicans are insane because you watched the Trump and Bush administrations with popcorn. And you know that I'm too doddering and feckless to overrule them."
            Last edited by Starlight; 07-03-2022, 01:59 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

              You've seen Biden - he could have been asked "Do you think Russia will press beyond Ukraine" and Biden could go off on a "our economy is the strongest in the world, and inflation is lower than any other country in the universe, and the Supreme Court is a corrupt organization that needs to...."

              I actually saw the Presser wasn't paying much attention, so I don't recall how it actually evolved.

              In response to a question asking him about what he would tell people, including other world leaders who think America is “going in the wrong direction,” Biden laid hefty blame on the Supreme Court’s monumental decision.

              In a video – posted to Twitter by NewsBusters managing editor Curtis Houck – Biden responded, stating, “The one thing that has been destabilizing is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of the United States in overruling not only Roe v. Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy.”

              “We’ve been a leader in the world in terms of personal rights and privacy rights, and it is a mistake in my view for the Supreme Court to do what it did,” he declared.


              Actually, here's the question, and Biden's bird-brained response, filled with demonstrably false claims...

              It is as if he is now adding the SCOTUS decision overturning Roe to his list of things to blame for inflation.

              He has come up with almost as many other people to blame as Hillary did when she lost in 2016.

              I'm always still in trouble again

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                The decision has been a topic of interest in many allied countries, and led to protests against the ruling and in favor of looser abortion laws.

                e.g. Today: Thousands descend on Sydney [and] Melbourne in protest of US abortion ruling.

                https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Fef9f275e-17c2-4a0d-b616-b0db1b2463c6.jpg

                Yesterday in New Zealand: Angry outpour at Roe v Wade Solidarity Protest in Wellington

                1656661244578.jpg?format=pjpg&optimize=medium.jpg

                It's having political fallout here because politicians are having to go on the record as to what the views of themselves and their parties on abortion are, and those giving answers supporting the US decision are paying a political price for it.

                In the context of the international response to the ruling, it's appropriate for Joe Biden to speak to the ruling at a meeting of his allies like NATO, even if it's just to say "Sorry about all the protests in your countries this has triggered. I'm sure you already know the Republicans are insane because you watched the Trump and Bush administrations with popcorn. And you know that I'm too doddering and feckless to overrule them."
                I believe the whining of protesters in Oz and Kiwiland will effect us almost as much as the law effects them.

                It is an unwritten policy for our leaders to not go to foreign soil to vent their spleen. The Democrats, naturally, have been doing it at least since George W., so the shock of it has worn off.

                And what they saw was an angry old man mumbling and muttering as he did everything you expect from an old coot except yell "GIT OFF OF MY LAWN!" IOW, Ukraine happened because the U.S. is led by a decrepit senile old man -- but at least he doesn't Tweet bad things.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  It is as if he is now adding the SCOTUS decision overturning Roe to his list of things to blame for inflation.

                  He has come up with almost as many other people to blame as Hillary did when she lost in 2016.
                  The only difference is, I think, that Hillary knew she was doing it.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    The decision has been a topic of interest in many allied countries, and led to protests against the ruling and in favor of looser abortion laws.

                    e.g. Today: Thousands descend on Sydney [and] Melbourne in protest of US abortion ruling.

                    https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Fef9f275e-17c2-4a0d-b616-b0db1b2463c6.jpg

                    Yesterday in New Zealand: Angry outpour at Roe v Wade Solidarity Protest in Wellington

                    1656661244578.jpg?format=pjpg&optimize=medium.jpg

                    It's having political fallout here because politicians are having to go on the record as to what the views of themselves and their parties on abortion are, and those giving answers supporting the US decision are paying a political price for it.

                    In the context of the international response to the ruling, it's appropriate for Joe Biden to speak to the ruling at a meeting of his allies like NATO, even if it's just to say "Sorry about all the protests in your countries this has triggered. I'm sure you already know the Republicans are insane because you watched the Trump and Bush administrations with popcorn. And you know that I'm too doddering and feckless to overrule them."
                    You are right. We should apologize to those other countries because their people exercised their right to free speech. Can't have that.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      The decision has been a topic of interest in many allied countries, and led to protests against the ruling and in favor of looser abortion laws.

                      e.g. Today: Thousands descend on Sydney [and] Melbourne in protest of US abortion ruling.

                      https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Fef9f275e-17c2-4a0d-b616-b0db1b2463c6.jpg

                      Yesterday in New Zealand: Angry outpour at Roe v Wade Solidarity Protest in Wellington

                      1656661244578.jpg?format=pjpg&optimize=medium.jpg

                      It's having political fallout here because politicians are having to go on the record as to what the views of themselves and their parties on abortion are, and those giving answers supporting the US decision are paying a political price for it.

                      In the context of the international response to the ruling, it's appropriate for Joe Biden to speak to the ruling at a meeting of his allies like NATO, even if it's just to say "Sorry about all the protests in your countries this has triggered. I'm sure you already know the Republicans are insane because you watched the Trump and Bush administrations with popcorn. And you know that I'm too doddering and feckless to overrule them."
                      Perhaps, because you're so incredibly intelligent and so terribly interested in the affairs of other countries, you might explain to them that the SCOTUS ruling did not outlaw abortion.

                      IF Joe were honest, and IF he had a brain and IF he needed to address it at all, he could simply say "What SCOTUS did was to move this decision where it belongs constitutionally - to the States and the people". He's not that smart, and he's certainly not that honest.

                      The fact that angry people are pitching fits in other parts of the world is their problem, not ours.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        This, alone, reveals what a bunch of pathetic pathological liars the loonie lefties are.

                        And how incredibly gullible anybody is who buys into this crap.


                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #27
                          Seriously, if you don't want to have a baby, you have options. Keep your pants up is the best one. Get a hysterotomy is another, albeit extreme. Or just show up once a month for your danged Depo.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                            This, alone, reveals what a bunch of pathetic pathological liars the loonie lefties are.

                            And how incredibly gullible anybody is who buys into this crap.
                            It does trigger an eye roll response.

                            What's next? "Euthanasia is Health Care"? "Eugenics is Health Care"?

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              It does trigger an eye roll response.

                              What's next? "Euthanasia is Health Care"? "Eugenics is Health Care"?
                              It's downright Biblical - calling good evil, and evil good....
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #30
                                If abortion is healthcare then we can also abort the mother. Nothing in the rule book says we can't just take the baby and get rid of her.

                                Utilitarianism would be fun if it weren't so terrifying.
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