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  • #31
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Okay I think I've managed to translate your senile blatherings.

    Being gay doesn't make the staff "far left" you disgusting bigot. Plenty of Republicans from McCarthy to Reagan have had gay staff members.
    Awww... poor stupid genocidal maniac can't tell the difference between a "diversity" pandering hire like Mayor Pete and a merit hire like Reagan's selections... idiot.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      a "diversity" pandering hire like Mayor Pete
      Pete was hired because the deal Obama struck with him just before Super Tuesday in the primaries was to drop out and support Biden and get hired. Nothing to do with his sexuality or diversity pandering, just political machinations to stop Bernie winning the presidency (and thus screw over the 'far' left, like Democratic leadership always tries to do).
      Last edited by Starlight; 07-01-2022, 06:50 PM.
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      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Can you point to actual implemented policies where this is occurring as opposed to in your imagination? Cos the reality is: WaPo: Biden is approving more oil and gas permits on public lands than Trump, analysis finds.
        This was explained to you before. Did you not read you're own article, or can you even read? Your own article indicates he's only being held up by the courts, not anything he's doing himself. His (and his anti-oil, pro-climate change cult cabinet) is still intent on disrupting the oil industry in both their rhetoric and actions. That fact alone creates instability and uncertainty in the energy markets and affects prices. That's a leftwing position, not center-right.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by seanD View Post
          he's only being held up by the courts, not anything he's doing himself.
          So is your claim now "well he isn't doing bad things to the oil and gas industry, but it's only because the courts are stopping him"?

          Unless you can actually cite actions that Biden has actually taken that really actually happened that really actually did provably damage the oil and gas industry, I'm going to have to ask you to stop making and repeating false claims about him doing so. You have been called out on this issue enough multiple times now, and consistently failed to cite anything of substance.
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            So is your claim now "well he isn't doing bad things to the oil and gas industry, but it's only because the courts are stopping him"?

            Unless you can actually cite actions that Biden has actually taken that really actually happened that really actually did provably damage the oil and gas industry, I'm going to have to ask you to stop making and repeating false claims about him doing so. You have been called out on this issue enough multiple times now, and consistently failed to cite anything of substance.
            Cancelling keystone pipeline. There you go.

            All this does is continue to show how clueless you are about how oil markets work. When there's instability and uncertainty in the oil markets from these actions and this hostile rhetoric you have less investment and more speculation. This is undoubtedly what his anti-oil, pro-climate change policy cult cabinet wants to happen in the markets.

            Again, that's not a "center-right" position, you nitwit.

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            • #36
              I am a pessimist by nature. I don't think I could imagine any circumstances in which I would say no to a question about whether the country is headed in the wrong direction.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Eighty-five percent of US adults feel country headed in wrong direction

                President Joe Biden faces tough numbers, as nearly 85% of U.S. adults feel the country is headed in the wrong direction, according to a new poll.

                In a survey conducted bythe Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs, 92% of Republicans feel the nation is heading in the wrong direction, and 78% of Democrats feel the same way.

                With inflation and gas prices rocking the economy, adults across the board view the direction of the economy in a negative light. Eighty-one percent of adults perceive the economy as poor. Broken down by party, 67% of Democrats have this view, while 90% of Republicans do.

                These numbers are significantly up from what the poll found last year, when only 37% of Democrats and 68% of Republicans felt negative about the economy.

                In the new survey, 60% overall said they disapprove of Biden's job as president, and 39% said they approve. Among independents, 73% said they disapprove of Biden's performance.

                "The nationwide poll was conducted June 23-27, 2022 using the AmeriSpeak® Panel, the probability-based panel of NORC at the University of Chicago. Online and telephone interviews using landlines and cell phones were conducted with 1,053 adults," according to a post from AP-NORC. "The margin of sampling error is +/- 4.0 percentage points."


                By the way, I'm posting this without comment so that, if anybody doesn't like it, I can pull an H_A and run away from it.
                It's the economy; that persistent bugaboo for reelections. All other things aside, the price of gasoline is driving inflation and stinging voters. That's the "wrong direction" that is going to end the Biden reign, and will take down a lot of Democrats with him. Biden's lip service is transparent - everyone knows he isn't serious about fixing the economy. He's too busy being focused on peripherals.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Okay I think I've managed to translate your senile blatherings.

                  Being gay doesn't make the staff "far left" you disgusting bigot. Plenty of Republicans from McCarthy to Reagan have had gay staff members.
                  The major difference is that "Plenty of Republicans from McCarthy to Reagan" hired the best person for the job, and sometimes that person happened to be gay.
                  They didn't scour the country trying to see how many diversity boxes they could check. Biden outright BRAGS about doing that.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by seanD View Post
                    Cancelling keystone pipeline. There you go.
                    Well at least that is a thing that really happened as opposed to things happening in your head.

                    The thing is though that the keystone pipeline wouldn't have affected much. It also wouldn't have been open yet, so nothing happening in the industry in the present is a product of that decision.

                    When there's instability and uncertainty in the oil markets from these actions and this hostile rhetoric you have less investment and more speculation.
                    LOL. "Biden once said mean things about the oil and gas industry, so even though he hasn't done anything relevant, he's to blame for the present situation because he once said some mean things."

                    Did it hurt the feefies of the oil and gas execs? Did they cry into their coffees and then have to wipe away their tears with their billions of dollars in profits? Were they... triggered?!?
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Well at least that is a thing that really happened as opposed to things happening in your head.

                      The thing is though that the keystone pipeline wouldn't have affected much. It also wouldn't have been open yet, so nothing happening in the industry in the present is a product of that decision.

                      LOL. "Biden once said mean things about the oil and gas industry, so even though he hasn't done anything relevant, he's to blame for the present situation because he once said some mean things."

                      Did it hurt the feefies of the oil and gas execs? Did they cry into their coffees and then have to wipe away their tears with their billions of dollars in profits? Were they... triggered?!?
                      Calm yourself, brother, or you may have a stroke.

                      A) What's a "feefie"? (I'm guessing 'feelings')
                      2) Anybody who knows squat about oil and gas investment knows that it's not as much what a particular President says, or even any leases or permits they may issue -- it all comes down to whether there is a friendly or hostile environment for profit, because it takes a HUGE investment in each project, and the return is over many years. That's just basic petrochemical math.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        Well at least that is a thing that really happened as opposed to things happening in your head.

                        The thing is though that the keystone pipeline wouldn't have affected much. It also wouldn't have been open yet, so nothing happening in the industry in the present is a product of that decision.

                        LOL. "Biden once said mean things about the oil and gas industry, so even though he hasn't done anything relevant, he's to blame for the present situation because he once said some mean things."

                        Did it hurt the feefies of the oil and gas execs? Did they cry into their coffees and then have to wipe away their tears with their billions of dollars in profits? Were they... triggered?!?
                        You ain't no scientist, bro. There's no possible way. You're probably no older than 13.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          The major difference is that "Plenty of Republicans from McCarthy to Reagan" hired the best person for the job, and sometimes that person happened to be gay.
                          They didn't scour the country trying to see how many diversity boxes they could check. Biden outright BRAGS about doing that.
                          It's somewhat nice that he passes the low bar of having some humanity by trying to ensure at least a minimal amount of diversity.

                          I would be far more impressed if he actually appointed someone whose politics was seriously left. The neo-liberals have been gas-lighting the left for decades now by finding a couple of people with neo-liberal political views who happen to be from minority groups and pretending that by graciously deigning to include those people that they are "leftist".

                          "He knowingly appointed a gay person" might have been a radical leftist act in 1970. But today it's not even worthy of comment. It's only extreme right wingers who today think that knowingly appointing a gay person is a radical act.

                          As a leftist I care about things like: What is Biden doing to ensure everyone has healthcare? What is he doing to ensure everyone has housing? What is he doing to ensure everyone has human rights? etc. Leftism is about doing things to actually help people and meaningfully improve their lives. The sexuality of the people in his cabinet wouldn't even be as high as number 100 on my list of priorities.
                          Last edited by Starlight; 07-01-2022, 09:25 PM.
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            It's somewhat nice that he passes the low bar of having some humanity by trying to ensure at least a minimal amount of diversity.
                            This is where you fail --- it's not about "a minimal amount of diversity" --- it's finding the best person for the job, regardless.

                            I would be far more impressed if he actually appointed someone whose politics was seriously left. The neo-liberals have been gas-lighting the left for decades now by finding a couple of people with neo-liberal political views who happen to be from minority groups and pretending that by graciously deigning to include those people that they are "leftist".

                            "He knowingly appointed a gay person" might have been a radical leftist act in 1970. But today it's not even worthy of comment. It's only extreme right wingers who today think that knowingly appointing a gay person is a radical act.
                            Yeah, this is why Peppermint Patty II had to make a big deal about being the first black lesbian.... It's all about "checking the boxes". Biden even announced he would nominate a black woman to SCOTUS --- no pretense about it whatsoever. Not "the most capable person", but a "black woman".

                            As a leftist I care about things like: What is Biden doing to ensure everyone has healthcare? What is he doing to ensure everyone has housing? What is he doing to ensure everyone has human rights? etc. Leftism is about doing things to actually help people and meaningfully improve their lives. The sexuality of the people in his cabinet wouldn't even be as high as number 100 on my list of priorities.
                            Biden is an empty suit - what "they" are doing to him is elder abuse. But, he spent a lifetime earning it, so...

                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              Can you point to actual implemented policies where this is occurring as opposed to in your imagination? Cos the reality is: WaPo: Biden is approving more oil and gas permits on public lands than Trump, analysis finds.
                              I absolutely agree that in terms of "actual implemented policies", there's nothing far-left about Biden that I am aware of. But with the razor-thin margin in the Senate (even if you don't consider the filibuster), there's not anything particularly extreme Biden could get through. He could be Bernie Sanders, or someone even more liberal than Bernie, and I don't think it would make that big of a difference in regards to how liberal the policies he's able to implement are. So I'm not sure how much we can really analyze based on the policies that were implemented.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                This is where you fail --- it's not about "a minimal amount of diversity" --- it's finding the best person for the job, regardless.
                                In an average small business hiring process where you perhaps get 10 applicants and then interview 3 applicants it might be obvious to you that one of them is the "best person for the job". Although, even then you might be actually wrong. Plenty of bad hires happen. Other times the hiring team might disagree over 2 of the candidates and there is no obvious single 'best person' for the job.

                                But a cabinet position isn't like that. For any given cabinet position there would be in the US literally about 100,000 expert and qualified people who would be incredibly good at it. And the chances of any single one of them being significantly better than the next best 10, are basically zero. i.e. there's literally no such thing as the single "best person for the job". There's instead, lots of really good people for the job. So you can easily introduce some other criteria, e.g. "I would like them to be young" or "I would like them to be a woman", or "I would like them to be from state X" without dropping the quality of the candidate, because from among the really good candidates you just consider the ones that meet the extra criteria.

                                In addition it improves the quality of the decision making of the cabinet overall if minority voices are present in it, because if everyone in it is from the same background they may not understand some issues or some perspectives or have heard or relevant ideas or opinions that a diversity of perspectives could have contributed. So actually, the cabinet gets actually better at their jobs due to diversity, not worse in absolute quality.

                                Biden even announced he would nominate a black woman to SCOTUS --- no pretense about it whatsoever. Not "the most capable person", but a "black woman".
                                Many of Donald Trump's judicial nominees for federal courts received a "Not qualified" rating from judicial associations. Forget the idea of finding "the most capable person", he wasn't even finding "capable" persons. No one would seriously argue that any of Trump's appointments to SCOTUS were chosen due to being particularly capable judges never mind the most capable in the country - pretty much all the Republican judges on SCOTUS are useless pieces of trash chosen primarily due to their ideologies. Unless you are seriously arguing that there exists no black women in America capable of reaching the level of competence necessary to serve on SCOTUS, your argument here doesn't have a relevant point - Biden decided that from among the highly qualified and capable options he was going to pick one of the black women, which doesn't mean his pick wasn't highly qualified and capable. So take your pretend concern to the Republican party who are the ones who do this much worse.

                                Biden is an empty suit - what "they" are doing to him is elder abuse. But, he spent a lifetime earning it, so...
                                I agree, they should have let Bernie win the presidency instead of rigging it against the left.
                                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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