Promiscuity: The real reason for Roe...

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

And that applies how?

Because as Molesworth might note "Any fule kno" that the reasons for having abortions are not simply because of promiscuity.

Furthermore why do women who identify as Christian, and many of whom attend church, have abortions? Why do women who identify as born again/evangelical have abortions?

The following are from two articles in The Christian Post. The first is from November 2015:

https://www.christianpost.com/news/7...vey-finds.html

Over 40 percent of women who have had an abortion say they were frequent churchgoers at the time they ended their pregnancies and about a half of them say they kept their abortions hidden from church members, new LifeWay Research shows.

In a survey released Monday that was sponsored by the pregnancy center support organization Care Net, researchers from the Christian research group LifeWay found that about 70 percent of women who had an abortion self-identified as Christians, while 43 percent say they attended a Christian church at least once per month or more at the time they aborted their child.

The survey, which interviewed 1,038 respondents who've all had abortions, found that 20 percent of the respondents attended church at least once a week at the time of their first pregnancy termination. Six percent said they attended church more than once per week, while about 54 percent said they rarely or never attended a church.

As a majority Christian churches do not support aborting a child, only 7 percent of women said they discussed their abortion decision with anyone at church, while 52 percent said no one at their church knew about their abortion. Additionally, 76 percent of them say that the church had no influence on their decision to go through with the abortion.

This is from November 2018: - my emphasis.

https://www.christianpost.com/voices...abortions.html

The Church is strident when it comes to protecting the life of the unborn. So, why do Christian women opt for an abortion despite the official policy of the Church opposing abortion in the strongest terms?

According to Abortion Statistics compiled by the Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America, '"Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical."'

It is significant to note that only 23.7% of women obtaining abortions are not religious. That means 76.3% of all abortions are obtained by "God-fearing" women – with 68.7% identified as Christian women; and 18% of all abortions are obtained by "born-again/evangelical" women.

Those articles also indicate that women who identify as Protestant Christian have more abortions [37.4%] than do women with no religious affiliation. And 18% of all those identify as born again.

[Cow Poke]

....Those articles also indicate that women who identify as Protestant Christian have more abortions [37.4%] than do women with no religious affiliation. And 18% of all those identify as born again.

Do you have even the vaguest notion of what it means to "identify as Protestant Christian" in America?

[Mountain Man]

Those articles also indicate that women who identify as Protestant Christian have more abortions [37.4%] than do women with no religious affiliation. And 18% of all those identify as born again.

Do you think you've trapped us? That we are somehow forbidden from condemning the choices of Christians just as readily as we condemn the choices of non-Christians?

[Cow Poke]

Do you think you've trapped us? That we are somehow forbidden from condemning the choices of Christians just as readily as we condemn the choices of non-Christians?

People who "identify as Christians" in a poll.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Do you think you've trapped us?

No.

That we are somehow forbidden from condemning the choices of Christians just as readily as we condemn the choices of non-Christians?

The percentages in those articles were interesting. More Christian than those with no religious affiliation had abortions. And as the first article notes:

52 percent said no one at their church knew about their abortion.

It also notes that:

The survey also found that 64 percent of respondents feel that members of the church are more likely to gossip about their pregnancy or abortion consideration rather than actually help them understand their pregnancy options.

While weighing their abortion decisions, 36 percent said they expected or experienced judgemental reaction from a church, while 26 percent said they expected or experienced condemnation from the congregation.

Only 16 percent said they expected or experienced a "caring" reaction from the church, while 14 percent said they expected or experienced a helpful reaction.

[Cow Poke]

No.

The percentages in those articles were interesting. More Christian than those with no religious affiliation had abortions. And as the first article notes:

52 percent said no one at their church knew about their abortion.

Yeah, if I went somewhere to have somebody killed, I don't believe I'd brag about it in church, either. I think this may speak to their shame.

[seanD]

Do you think you've trapped us? That we are somehow forbidden from condemning the choices of Christians just as readily as we condemn the choices of non-Christians?

After all, it's not like Christians, who are just as human, aren't also influenced and subjected to the environment and culture that liberals (Hollywood) create around them.

[seer]

Why are they trying to punish their husbands?

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[Cow Poke]

After all, it's not like Christians, who are just as human, aren't also influenced and subjected to the environment and culture that liberals (Hollywood) create around them.

EGGzackly.

[Mountain Man]

No.

The percentages in those articles were interesting. More Christian than those with no religious affiliation had abortions. And as the first article notes:

52 percent said no one at their church knew about their abortion.

It also notes that:

The survey also found that 64 percent of respondents feel that members of the church are more likely to gossip about their pregnancy or abortion consideration rather than actually help them understand their pregnancy options.

While weighing their abortion decisions, 36 percent said they expected or experienced judgemental reaction from a church, while 26 percent said they expected or experienced condemnation from the congregation.

Only 16 percent said they expected or experienced a "caring" reaction from the church, while 14 percent said they expected or experienced a helpful reaction.

The problems with these surveys is that we don't know the actual questions being asked or how they were framed, so it's impossible to draw any meaningful conclusions. For instance, how were the terms "judgemental reaction" and "condemantion" defined? Were they defined by the pollster as part of the question, or was it left up to the individual to assume what they meant? For instance, did a respondant consider it a "judgmental reaction" that their choice to abort wasn't celebrated, or that someone sadly shook their head when the learned of what happened? Also, how many merely expected "condemnation" versus how many actually experienced it? Those are two completely different things, yet the survey inexplicably lumps them together. As for being afraid of gossips in the church, that seems to say more about the person than it does about the church.

Like the classic saying goes, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."

[Bill the Cat]

I saw one liberal facebook post warning her fellow women that now that RvW is gone they need to be careful of who they sleep with because there are men out there that could be trying to take advantage of them.

So basically admitting that she would just sleep with anyone before, damn the consequences?

This entire thing is bringing out the nutcases to the light. Had a schmoe on Reddit say that women should sue their own husband for child support until the baby is born and he can share the responsibility. And there's the "muh Child Tax Credit" and "count them in the census" comments...

[Bill the Cat]

No.

The percentages in those articles were interesting. More Christian than those with no religious affiliation had abortions. And as the first article notes:

52 percent said no one at their church knew about their abortion.

It also notes that:

The survey also found that 64 percent of respondents feel that members of the church are more likely to gossip about their pregnancy or abortion consideration rather than actually help them understand their pregnancy options.

While weighing their abortion decisions, 36 percent said they expected or experienced judgemental reaction from a church, while 26 percent said they expected or experienced condemnation from the congregation.

Only 16 percent said they expected or experienced a "caring" reaction from the church, while 14 percent said they expected or experienced a helpful reaction.

Were the abortions before or after they became Christians?

[Teallaura]

Why are they trying to punish their husbands?

Why are you assuming they married men?



I mean, it might have been a unicorn or a rainbow or a Chevy van.... Maybe old Sneaky Snake was still single...

[NorrinRadd]

This entire thing is bringing out the nutcases to the light. Had a schmoe on Reddit say that women should sue their own husband for child support until the baby is born and he can share the responsibility. And there's the "muh Child Tax Credit" and "count them in the census" comments...

I posted on Facebook that besides the Roe Reversal being great for its primary purpose, it also performed a service for the country in revealing how literally demonically deranged many on the Left are.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Were the abortions before or after they became Christians?

From the first article [my emphasis]:

In a survey released Monday that was sponsored by the pregnancy center support organization Care Net, researchers from the Christian research group LifeWay found that about 70 percent of women who had an abortion self-identified as Christians, while 43 percent say they attended a Christian church at least once per month or more at the time they aborted their child.

The survey, which interviewed 1,038 respondents who've all had abortions, found that 20 percent of the respondents attended church at least once a week at the time of their first pregnancy termination. Six percent said they attended church more than once per week, while about 54 percent said they rarely or never attended a church