To the Biden supporters and defenders

[Cow Poke]

Reagan was clearly in the very early stages, likely before clear detection would have been possible (especially with the much lower understanding of the disease that we had decades ago). Nothing remotely close to Biden's level of decline, but clearly some mental impairment.

Looking back with better info and knowledge, he was clearly suffering with the earliest stages of decline.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...947-story.html

https://www.medicaldaily.com/ronald-...disease-328050


Notice in particular the part about his tend toward relying on crutch words like 'thing'

..... sound like anyone we know? "You know, the thing!"

[Gondwanaland]

[Starlight]

Looking back with better info and knowledge, he was clearly suffering with the earliest stages of decline.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...947-story.html

This bit gave me a laugh:

As for requiring a neuropsychological test... If you make all the guys in Congress take the test, you’d lose half the Congress.”

Sounds about right and shows such a test would be a good idea!

[Cow Poke]

This bit gave me a laugh:

As for requiring a neuropsychological test... If you make all the guys in Congress take the test, you’d lose half the Congress.”

Sounds about right and shows such a test would be a good idea!

Unfortunately, the inmates are in charge of the asylum, so they'd never vote to allow that.

[Mountain Man]

Finally coming around in regards to Biden. It sure took long enough.

But not without being couched in a pathetic display of "whataboutism".

[Starlight]

Finally coming around in regards to Biden. It sure took long enough.

Maybe it's you who has Alzheimer's?

Me in Jan 2020, before Biden was the nominee:

[Biden's] just not all there mentally. Not that I think Trump is all there either. But, if anything, Biden seems worse than Trump as far as age-related mental deterioration goes.

Me in June 2020, before Biden was elected:

I think it's safe to assume that Biden is sufficiently old and has sufficient cognitive decline that he won't actually do much, and that his government will be run by the people around him, like with Reagan...

I don't like Biden's own personal history on policy, but I don't think that will affect things much, or even at all, in his administration, because I don't think it will be him calling the shots.

The question is not if I've "come around", but how brilliantly prescient I was and how much I absolutely nailed it years in advance.

[Terraceth]

I wouldn't consider myself a Biden supporter/defender, but it seems a possible explanation is simply that whoever put it together got carried away with specifics (heck, for all I know this kind of weird specific might be commonplace in presidential reminders and we just don't see them), and the emphasis on "you" just being a way to make it stand out so you'd see what applies to you with a quick glance.

Whether these explanations are correct I do not know, but "he's so forgetful he needs to be reminded of these things" isn't necessarily the explanation is the point.

Indeed, if he was so forgetful he absolutely needed to be reminded of just everything, it's odd for it to say "You ask Liz Schuler, President, AFL-CIO, a question" without a specification on what that question is. That's something that would be far easier to forget than whether to sit down.

[rogue06]

Reagan was clearly in the very early stages, likely before clear detection would have been possible (especially with the much lower understanding of the disease that we had decades ago). Nothing remotely close to Biden's level of decline, but clearly some mental impairment.

Looking back with better info and knowledge, he was clearly suffering with the earliest stages of decline.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...947-story.html

https://www.medicaldaily.com/ronald-...disease-328050


Notice in particular the part about his tend toward relying on crutch words like 'thing'

..... sound like anyone we know? "You know, the thing!"

I vaguely remember reading about this and IIRC the authors loaded it with caveats cautioning about reading too much into it, which were of course ignored.

[rogue06]

I wouldn't consider myself a Biden supporter/defender, but it seems a possible explanation is simply that whoever put it together got carried away with specifics (heck, for all I know this kind of weird specific might be commonplace in presidential reminders and we just don't see them), and the emphasis on "you" just being a way to make it stand out so you'd see what applies to you with a quick glance.

Whether these explanations are correct I do not know, but "he's so forgetful he needs to be reminded of these things" isn't necessarily the explanation is the point.

Indeed, if he was so forgetful he absolutely needed to be reminded of just everything, it's odd for it to say "You ask Liz Schuler, President, AFL-CIO, a question" without a specification on what that question is. That's something that would be far easier to forget than whether to sit down.

If it were just someone getting carried away and old Joe didn't need such reminders, Biden would have stuffed it in his pocket and ignored it as unnecessary

[Ronson]

Maybe it's you who has Alzheimer's?

Me in Jan 2020, before Biden was the nominee:

Me in June 2020, before Biden was elected:

I don't read all of your posts and it appears I wasn't involved in those threads. But it's not my imagination that you have been singing his praises for some time.

The question is not if I've "come around", but how brilliantly prescient I was and how much I absolutely nailed it years in advance.

I'll accept that as sarcasm.

[Ronson]

I wouldn't consider myself a Biden supporter/defender, but it seems a possible explanation is simply that whoever put it together got carried away with specifics (heck, for all I know this kind of weird specific might be commonplace in presidential reminders and we just don't see them), and the emphasis on "you" just being a way to make it stand out so you'd see what applies to you with a quick glance.

Whether these explanations are correct I do not know, but "he's so forgetful he needs to be reminded of these things" isn't necessarily the explanation is the point.

Indeed, if he was so forgetful he absolutely needed to be reminded of just everything, it's odd for it to say "You ask Liz Schuler, President, AFL-CIO, a question" without a specification on what that question is. That's something that would be far easier to forget than whether to sit down.

I might make notes for myself before a news briefing, but it is uniquely odd to see a president with a prepared and professionally printed cheat sheet. It smacks of some sort of well-oiled machine and levers being pulled behind the curtain.

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[rogue06]

This bit gave me a laugh:

As for requiring a neuropsychological test... If you make all the guys in Congress take the test, you’d lose half the Congress.”

Sounds about right and shows such a test would be a good idea!

Perhaps we should put a pause on searching for intelligent life on Mars and elsewhere and see if we can find any evidence of it in Washington D.C. first.

[Cow Poke]

I wouldn't consider myself a Biden supporter/defender, but it seems a possible explanation is simply that whoever put it together got carried away with specifics (heck, for all I know this kind of weird specific might be commonplace in presidential reminders and we just don't see them), and the emphasis on "you" just being a way to make it stand out so you'd see what applies to you with a quick glance.

Yeah, no. There are no other persons receiving instructions in that cheat sheet.

Whether these explanations are correct I do not know, but "he's so forgetful he needs to be reminded of these things" isn't necessarily the explanation is the point.

But the simplest explanation is usually the best, no?

Indeed, if he was so forgetful he absolutely needed to be reminded of just everything, it's odd for it to say "You ask Liz Schuler, President, AFL-CIO, a question" without a specification on what that question is. That's something that would be far easier to forget than whether to sit down.

But he's TERRIBLE at reading -- I would think they had filled him in on what question to ask, and hoped that he could manage that, rather than stumble and mumble through reading something from a card, which would be painfully obvious to everybody.

[Mountain Man]

The question is not if I've "come around", but how brilliantly prescient I was and how much I absolutely nailed it years in advance.

Like you were the only one saying that Joe had a head full of mush.

[seanD]

I wouldn't consider myself a Biden supporter/defender, but it seems a possible explanation is simply that whoever put it together got carried away with specifics (heck, for all I know this kind of weird specific might be commonplace in presidential reminders and we just don't see them), and the emphasis on "you" just being a way to make it stand out so you'd see what applies to you with a quick glance.

Whether these explanations are correct I do not know, but "he's so forgetful he needs to be reminded of these things" isn't necessarily the explanation is the point.

Indeed, if he was so forgetful he absolutely needed to be reminded of just everything, it's odd for it to say "You ask Liz Schuler, President, AFL-CIO, a question" without a specification on what that question is. That's something that would be far easier to forget than whether to sit down.

It's called cumulative of evidence. We all knew (even the left knew this prior to him getting elected) he had dementia based on the stack of clear evidence before this incident. This incident just appears to be the nail in the coffin of any argument against his cognitive decline. At least I thought that was the case. It's to the point now that either his defenders denying this are outright lying, or there's some really powerful cognitive dissonance at play.