Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, leaves issue up to states

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Yes, we've been battling the Democrat party for a long time.

Yet political attitudes did shift in the intervening one hundred years or so. It was a Democrat president that signed the Civil Rights Act and it was a Republican president that had the dubious honour to be the only US president ever to resign [to prevent being impeached].

[Gondwanaland]

The simple fact is that no one can know precisely what wider impact this recent ruling might have, particularly given Justice Thomas' opinion. It could lead to further decisions being made that some might not consider as beneficial to US society as the overturning of Roe vs. Wade.

Only time will tell.

Perhaps someone will 'adjudicate' by.... introducing legislation, eh?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I see you're still on the "Look at the horrible things that could happen if we don't allow women to murder their unborn children!" kick.

The simple fact is that no one can know precisely what wider impact this recent ruling might have, particularly given Justice Thomas' opinion. It could lead to further decisions being made that some might not consider as beneficial to US society as the overturning of Roe vs. Wade.

Only time will tell.

[Mountain Man]

It is not just liberal women that are seeking abortions.

There may also be wider implications. In May lawmakers in Louisiana considered a bill that that would have classified abortion as homicide, which experts said could have criminalized the use of IUDs and emergency contraception.

That bill failed but given this new ruling, what happens if similar legislation is introduced again either in that state or elsewhere? Will some states consider legislation that would bar contraception through strict abortion laws?

I see you're still on the "Look at the horrible things that could happen if we don't allow women to murder their unborn children!" kick.

[Cow Poke]

Look out she might rank atrocities or condemn you for ranking atrocities. Either one, it's a tossup, she can't make up her mind.

Second verse same as the first?

[Gondwanaland]

So your claim is you were less evil because it was only 12 years?

Look out she might rank atrocities or condemn you for ranking atrocities. Either one, it's a tossup, she can't make up her mind.

[Cow Poke]

It is not just liberal women that are seeking abortions.

There may also be wider implications. In May lawmakers in Louisiana considered a bill that that would have classified abortion as homicide, which experts said could have criminalized the use of IUDs and emergency contraception.

That bill failed but given this new ruling, what happens if similar legislation is introduced again either in that state or elsewhere? Will some states consider legislation that would bar contraception through strict abortion laws?

That's up to the States, and the people who elect their own representatives.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

But seriosly, what is wrong with liberal women that they think murdering an unborn child is somehow preferable to giving birth?

It is not just liberal women that are seeking abortions.

There may also be wider implications. In May lawmakers in Louisiana considered a bill that that would have classified abortion as homicide, which experts said could have criminalized the use of IUDs and emergency contraception.

That bill failed but given this new ruling, what happens if similar legislation is introduced again either in that state or elsewhere? Will some states consider legislation that would bar contraception through strict abortion laws?

[Cow Poke]

But seriosly, what is wrong with liberal women that they think murdering an unborn child is somehow preferable to giving birth? That's part of the difficulty in this debate, the fact that the moral disconnect is so extreme that there is literally no common ground on which to reach a compromise.

And, since they can no longer scream "But it's the LAW OF THE LAND", they'll actually have to come up with actual reasons. That will be entertaining.

[Mountain Man]

You forget the situation in the South with the KKK and lynchings, as well as the later violence [including murder] against those trying to register blacks to vote.

Yes, we've been battling the Democrat party for a long time.

[Mountain Man]

Self evidently many here do consider that society should determine whether a woman should give birth..

But seriosly, what is wrong with liberal women that they think murdering an unborn child is somehow preferable to giving birth? That's part of the difficulty in this debate, the fact that the moral disconnect is so extreme that there is literally no common ground on which to reach a compromise.

[Cow Poke]

I suppose the only difference would be the chronology. We had twelve years of madness and almost unbelievable cruelty. The USA had decades of horrendous cruelty and violence against innocent people being murdered simply for being black and/or trying to exercise their legal right, as well as the violence [including murder] against those who tried to help them.

Edited to add: Not forgetting the abuses and violence directed towards the indigenous peoples of continental America.

So your claim is you were less evil because it was only 12 years?

[Mountain Man]

The only thing I see echoing 'the birth dearth' is the pro-choice movement which kills black babies at a rate of 4 times as much that of white babies. 20 million black babies have been killed in the womb by abortionists since Roe. At the time Roe was decided, there were only 23 million black people in the US.

But we're the ones who are racist for refusing to support an industry that has destroyed black population growth in the US.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You mean like WIC, Medicare, Social Security, free clinics... etc?

I was thinking of the wider sphere.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Oh, the irony of somebody from Germany picking on another nation's civil rights record.

I suppose the only difference would be the chronology. We had twelve years of madness and almost unbelievable cruelty. The USA had decades of horrendous cruelty and violence against innocent people being murdered simply for being black and/or trying to exercise their legal right, as well as the violence [including murder] against those who tried to help them.

Edited to add: Not forgetting the abuses and violence directed towards the indigenous peoples of continental America.