Biden's daughter and taking showers with her father

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Not logical doesn't mean that there isn't a progression of one thing leading to another.

There is a progression of thought but it is often random.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

And a mind-set that sneers at parents objecting to men waving their genitals in their young children's faces as being prudes who object to nude paintings.

Where exactly did men wave "their genitals in their young children's faces"? I do not recall any such incident ever being recounted on this board.

[Mountain Man]

There is a progression of thought but it is often random.

Often, but not always? Such as a diary entry where a daughter is presenting a list of traumatising childhood experiences that negatively affected her sexual development? Including "showers w/ my dad (probably not appropriate)"?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You think it requires a "certain mind-set" to take a daughter at her word when she describes showers with father as inappropriate?

I guess that "mind-set" includes familiarity witht the English language and basic reading comprehension skills.

You omitted the rest of that comment "probably not". We have no idea what Ms Biden meant by those three words.

However, reading a text and interpreting it in a manner by which to introduce [or support] one's own presuppositions, agendas, and/or biases is known as eisegesis.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

It looks like Hillary was found standing over Trump's body, holding knife, laughing. It was obvious that the stab wounds were in the back of the body, no other weapons or defensive wounds were found.

Stoic: Have you seen the number of episodes of Murder She Wrote and Matlock where a person is wrongly arrested because they happened across a body and picked up the weapon? We can't rule it out, and it would be unwise to come to any conclusion based off this event.

I had to look up Matlock!

For a brief moment I imagined you had been watching a whodunnit set in Derbyshire, England!

[CivilDiscourse]

I had to look up Matlock!

For a brief moment I imagined you had been watching a whodunnit set in Derbyshire, England!

I picture your response to the above story would be:

"People use knives all the time. Have you not ever cut up vegetables? It takes a certain mindset to read nefarious stuff into using a knife"

[Mountain Man]

You omitted the rest of that comment "probably not". We have no idea what Ms Biden meant by those three words.

However, reading a text and interpreting it in a manner by which to introduce [or support] one's own presuppositions, agendas, and/or biases is known as eisegesis.

There is no meaningful difference between "inappropriate" and "probably not appropriate". Obviously Ashley has misgivings about taking showers with her father.

[Ronson]

Where exactly did men wave "their genitals in their young children's faces"? I do not recall any such incident ever being recounted on this board.

Yeah, how can something like that possibly happen in a shower?

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[Hypatia_Alexandria]

There is no meaningful difference between "inappropriate" and "probably not appropriate".

Yes there is. The latter has an element of uncertainty, indecisiveness, or doubt

Ashley has misgivings about taking showers with her father.

Yet we do not know exactly what she meant.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Yeah, how can something like that possibly happen in a shower?

I do not know what you do in the shower but I have never heard of a man waving his genitals around while showering.

[Mountain Man]

Yes there is. The latter has an element of uncertainty, indecisiveness, or doubt

Yet we do not know exactly what she meant.

Sure, you can continue to pretend not to know things.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Sure, you can continue to pretend not to know things.

While you can pretend you do know.

[Mountain Man]

While you can pretend you do know.

But we do know, because Ashley herself wrote in her diary that she considers the father/daughter showers to have been inappropriate and listed them among a series of events in her life that she characterized as traumatic if not abusive.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

But we do know, because Ashley herself wrote in her diary that she considers the father/daughter showers to have been inappropriate and listed them among a series of events in her life that she characterized as traumatic if not abusive.

All we know is that Ashley Biden made a remark that she considered showering with her father was "probably not appropriate".

[Mountain Man]

All we know is that Ashley Biden made a remark that she considered showering with her father was "probably not appropriate".

Thank you for finally conceding that point after you spent page after page desperately trying to downplay it.