97.8% of Mass Shootings in Gun-Free Zones / Antidepressants

[Cow Poke]

97.8% of Mass Shootings Are Linked to This

While many have bought into the simplistic idea that availability of firearms is the cause of mass shootings, a number of experts have pointed out some uncomfortable truths. The ‘elephant in the room’ is being overlooked by our media, despite the fact it’s directly linked to the rise in mass shootings.
STORY AT-A-GLANCE

• While many have bought into the simplistic idea that availability of firearms is the cause of mass shootings, a number of experts have pointed out a more uncomfortable truth, which is that mass shootings are far more likely the result of how we’ve been mistreating mental illness, depression and behavioral problems
• Gun control legislation has shown that law-abiding Americans who own guns are not the problem, because the more gun control laws that have been passed, the more mass shootings have occurred
• 97.8% of mass shootings occur in “gun-free zones,” as the perpetrators know legally armed citizens won’t be there to stop them
• Depression per se rarely results in violence. Only after antidepressants became commonplace did mass shootings really take off, and many mass shooters have been shown to be on antidepressants
• Antidepressants, especially selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), are well-known for their ability to cause suicidal and homicidal ideation and violence

While many have bought into the simplistic idea that availability of firearms is the cause of mass shootings, a number of experts have pointed out a more uncomfortable truth, which is that mass shootings are far more likely the result of how we’ve been mistreating mental illness, depression and behavioral problems.

An article written by Molly Carter, initially published on ammo.com at an unknown date¹ and subsequently republished by The Libertarian Institute in May 2019,² and psychreg.org in late January 2021,³ noted:

“According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), a mass murder occurs when at least four people are murdered, not including the shooter … during a single incident …

Seemingly every time a mass shooting occurs … the anti-gun media and politicians have a knee-jerk response — they blame the tragedy solely on the tool used, namely firearms, and focus all of their proposed ‘solutions’ on more laws, ignoring that the murderer already broke numerous laws when they committed their atrocity.

Facts matter when addressing such an emotionally charged topic, and more gun control legislation has shown that law-abiding Americans who own guns are NOT the problem. Consider the following: The more gun control laws that are passed, the more mass murders have occurred.

[Littlejoe]

So...should we make it illegal for anyone on SSRI meds to not possess gums? It's common place for schools in my neck of the woods to have School Resource Officers...and shootings don't seem to happen there hardening the environment seems to be a viableanswer...

[Cow Poke]

So...should we make it illegal for anyone on SSRI meds to not possess gums?

Especially the CBD kind, yes.

Seriously, it sounds worthwhile to look at this whole "dope them down" kind of thing - prescribing prozac just because they can't behave.

It's common place for schools in my neck of the woods to have School Resource Officers...and shootings don't seem to happen there...

Wait -- you mean ... good guys with guns might thwart bad guys with guns? What a concept!!!!

Same here, LJ -- plus many of our school districts are allowing teachers and staff to be armed, after proper vetting and training.

[Mountain Man]

I've been saying for a long time that if liberals really cared about putting a stop to mass shootings then they would demand that "gun free zones" be outlawed.

[Mountain Man]

Seriously, it sounds worthwhile to look at this whole "dope them down" kind of thing - prescribing prozac just because they can't behave.

Whatever happened to letting kids be kids? Some people seem to have this idea that if children don't behave like miniature adults then you need to drug them into compliance.

[Littlejoe]

Especially the CBD kind, yes.

Seriously, it sounds worthwhile to look at this whole "dope them down" kind of thing - prescribing prozac just because they can't behave.

CBD kind? Like from Cannabis? I didn't know those were SSRI's....

Wait -- you mean ... good guys with guns might thwart bad guys with guns? What a concept!!!!

Same here, LJ -- plus many of our school districts are allowing teachers and staff to be armed, after proper vetting and training.

Yep, if the good guy with a gun doesn't sit on his hands (with his gun in the hand) and just watch....

Our schools around here are hit and miss on the arming of teachers and staff...fully vetted and trained, I have no problem with that.

As an aside, do you have carry insurance? I'm looking into it now. I've been tapped to lead our "Safety Team" and I want to make sure I'm covered if something happens at church. I've found one (CCW Safe) that will not cover you if you are considered on staff of a security/safety team at a church, whether paid or not. Another I considered very strongly seems to have a reputation of requiring you to repay them if you lose in court....

[Cow Poke]

CBD kind? Like from Cannabis? I didn't know those were SSRI's....

Kidding, brother - - you said "gums" instead of "guns".

Yep, if the good guy with a gun doesn't sit on his hands (with his gun in the hand) and just watch....

Our schools around here are hit and miss on the arming of teachers and staff...fully vetted and trained, I have no problem with that.

Yes, I always emphasize he vetted and trained.

As an aside, do you have carry insurance? I'm looking into it now. I've been tapped to lead our "Safety Team" and I want to make sure I'm covered if something happens at church. I've found one (CCW Safe) that will not cover you if you are considered on staff of a security/safety team at a church, whether paid or not. Another I considered very strongly seems to have a reputation of requiring you to repay them if you lose in court....

Still looking into that -- lemme know if you find something good.

[Cow Poke]

Whatever happened to letting kids be kids? Some people seem to have this idea that if children don't behave like miniature adults then you need to drug them into compliance.

That goes way back to the ADD thing. So much of what was diagnosed as "ADD" was, in my opinion, just kids being BAD.

I was amazed to find how many kids in school were "on drugs" for behavioral problems.

[seanD]

97.8% of Mass Shootings Are Linked to This

While many have bought into the simplistic idea that availability of firearms is the cause of mass shootings, a number of experts have pointed out some uncomfortable truths. The ‘elephant in the room’ is being overlooked by our media, despite the fact it’s directly linked to the rise in mass shootings.
STORY AT-A-GLANCE

• While many have bought into the simplistic idea that availability of firearms is the cause of mass shootings, a number of experts have pointed out a more uncomfortable truth, which is that mass shootings are far more likely the result of how we’ve been mistreating mental illness, depression and behavioral problems
• Gun control legislation has shown that law-abiding Americans who own guns are not the problem, because the more gun control laws that have been passed, the more mass shootings have occurred
• 97.8% of mass shootings occur in “gun-free zones,” as the perpetrators know legally armed citizens won’t be there to stop them
• Depression per se rarely results in violence. Only after antidepressants became commonplace did mass shootings really take off, and many mass shooters have been shown to be on antidepressants
• Antidepressants, especially selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), are well-known for their ability to cause suicidal and homicidal ideation and violence

While many have bought into the simplistic idea that availability of firearms is the cause of mass shootings, a number of experts have pointed out a more uncomfortable truth, which is that mass shootings are far more likely the result of how we’ve been mistreating mental illness, depression and behavioral problems.

An article written by Molly Carter, initially published on ammo.com at an unknown date¹ and subsequently republished by The Libertarian Institute in May 2019,² and psychreg.org in late January 2021,³ noted:

“According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), a mass murder occurs when at least four people are murdered, not including the shooter … during a single incident …

Seemingly every time a mass shooting occurs … the anti-gun media and politicians have a knee-jerk response — they blame the tragedy solely on the tool used, namely firearms, and focus all of their proposed ‘solutions’ on more laws, ignoring that the murderer already broke numerous laws when they committed their atrocity.

Facts matter when addressing such an emotionally charged topic, and more gun control legislation has shown that law-abiding Americans who own guns are NOT the problem. Consider the following: The more gun control laws that are passed, the more mass murders have occurred.

The OP is kind of confusing because it's addressing two different issues. But in regards to this...

97.8% of mass shootings occur in “gun-free zones,” as the perpetrators know legally armed citizens won’t be there to stop them

It's so elementary, it's like saying "Those that don't use umbrellas in the rain get wet." Criminals are the likely culprits to engage in mass shootings, and criminals don't follow rules-based systems.

[rogue06]

That goes way back to the ADD thing. So much of what was diagnosed as "ADD" was, in my opinion, just kids being BAD.

I was amazed to find how many kids in school were "on drugs" for behavioral problems.

In some places it was worse. Boys got dosed not for bad behavior, but for acting like boys. Boys are generally rowdier and fidget more, and some teachers wanted everyone sitting as nice and quiet as possible. So they urged the parents of many to most of the boys to have a doctor treat them for ADD. In fact, if memory serves, there was a big stink about teachers being given the authority in some areas to request it from a doctor -- possibly behind parent's backs. If so, somethings never change.

[Cow Poke]

The OP is kind of confusing because it's addressing two different issues. But in regards to this...

Yeah, I think it's trying to show that "grab the guns" is not the problem, then goes on to propose that drugging our students is the problem.

It's so elementary, it's like saying "Those that don't use umbrellas in the rain get wet." Criminals are the likely culprits to engage in mass shootings, and criminals don't follow rules-based systems.

It just hit me at lunch how nutty the liberals are ---- going from "say her name" to "you can't say 'her'" to "we can't tell you want a woman is". Maybe they're on drugs?

[Cow Poke]

In some places it was worse. Boys got dosed not for bad behavior, but for acting like boys. Boys are generally rowdier and fidget more, and some teachers wanted everyone sitting as nice and quiet as possible. So they urged the parents of many to most of the boys to have a doctor treat them for ADD. In fact, if memory serves, there was a big stink about teachers being given the authority in some areas to request it from a doctor -- possibly behind parent's backs. If so, somethings never change.

At the same time, it was drilled into us that we could beat each other to a bloody pulp (boys, and, yeah, slight exaggeration) but a boy should NEVER EVER hit a girl.
Now they can't even tell us what a "girl" is.

All through elementary school, there was an emphasis on us boys to "be gentlemen".

[Starlight]

Other countries use antidepressants yet still all have about 2 orders of magnitude fewer mass shootings than the US.

[Cow Poke]

Other countries use antidepressants yet still all have about 2 orders of magnitude fewer mass shootings than the US.

Other countries aren't the US.

An Uncomfortable Truth: A Look at the Corresponding Rise of Antidepressants, SSRIs, and Mass Shootings

Gun control, mental health, and SSRIs: What’s the solution?

When it comes to mass shootings, there’s no easy solution. Violence, especially random violence, is a complex manifestation of various thoughts, feelings, and external factors. While it may be impossible to fully stop mass murders, ignoring the fact that certain medications, including SSRIs, play a role in a high percentage of these violent acts, no justice is being served.

Gun control is obviously not the solution, as the rate of mass shootings has increased over the last 30 years, at a time when multiple gun control laws have been implemented. Taking firearms away from law abiding citizens has not and will not stop the problem.

[NorrinRadd]

That goes way back to the ADD thing. So much of what was diagnosed as "ADD" was, in my opinion, just kids being BAD.

I was amazed to find how many kids in school were "on drugs" for behavioral problems.

My favorite scene from one of my favorite South Park eps: